Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Camel2281]

So what people are saying is, if Stef plays 2 games of Origin this year Stef has an out?

So if Madge wants a bit of pay back, all he has to do is pick Stef for 2 of the Origin games this year regardless of what Stef's form is like at the time.

How does that saying go, "pay back is a [This word has been automatically removed]," or something like that. 🤣🤣🤣

Opposite. If he plays 2 origins he's locked into his deal. Madge won't pick him to spite us

 

[BZN]

It is happening … and he is likely getting picked for Origin too … but Penrith have talked with him/ his agent already apparently ..and we don’t want another 15 teams doing the same when he is trying to win football games for the Tigers

Is there any actual proof that Stefano Utoikamanu has talked to Penrith TS, or is it just a case of 'he has apparently'.

 

[BZN]

Sounds like Richo has been resting on his shovel. Not attempting to sign shiller after he cut our state cup team ti pieces earlier this season. Don’t need a recruitment guy hey???

We don't actually know Richo 'has been resting on his shovel' lathami.
As Richo said in one of his interviews 'don't believe anything unless it comes from him or the club'.
So, the fact we haven't heard anything doesn't mean we haven't been trying to recruit someone or are still in talks with someone.
Were all reacting to nothing more than rumors.

 

[TSP]

Money and opportunity will talk.

If Benji can lure JL over, I think he can impress Stef. He knows him inside out.

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

We don't actually know Richo 'has been resting on his shovel' lathami.
As Richo said in one of his interviews 'don't believe anything unless it comes from him or the club'.
So, the fact we haven't heard anything doesn't mean we haven't been trying to recruit someone or are still in talks with someone.
Were all reacting to nothing more than rumors.

Yep, it's just Caryannis Carry-on! Beware of Greeks bearing Grift.

 

[hank37w]

Opposite. If he plays 2 origins he's locked into his deal. Madge won't pick him to spite us

Yes, I have already made full and frank admissions to my complete stupidity. 🤡

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I hope you are right.
The only logical reason why we didn’t at least attempt to sign Zac Lomax has to be due to Salary Cap constraints, otherwise why are we doing nothing about strengthening up our weak backline when a big, strong, fast and skilful player who is also one of the best goal kickers in the competition becomes available?
Not to mention he’s previously mentioned he would be interested in playing for Wets Tigers the team he followed growing up.

It is a bit odd that he reportedly signed for less to play with the Eels and leave an outstanding coastal location. $800k a year and the coast for Parramatta?

 

[Kaito]

No need 4 justifications on here. We're rank with stupidity

 

[batboy]

It’s in the name…Mutual.
They BOTH have to agree. If one party says no, the deal is off.

It is in the name, But maybe you're looking at the wrong part.
Option...
Might mean the BOTH have the OPTION

Could be wrong,
But I got the info from a recruiter (Now in Player Management) - Twice
(Just To Confirm)
He may have it wrong also?
I wouldn't have thought so, He's been around a while...
And as old mate pointed out, The Mutual Option is often for different amounts.

All I've read here is someones interpretation of the wording,
Which I've pointed out above can be swayed any way you want to interpret it....
Nothing I've read here can back it up with anything more solid...
For what it's worth.

**Edit**
The below snippet taken from the SMH regarding Twal and Bulas contracts also seemingly stipulates 'Either' Party can take up the Mutual Option.

"The club instead agreed to insert a mutual option for 2027. If Bula takes up the option he is guaranteed $800,000 in 2027, but if the club takes up the option it will be for $900,000. The deal, which has been significantly upgraded over the next two years, is worth about $2.7 million to $2.8 million over four years"

 

[Flippedy]

It is a bit odd that he reportedly signed for less to play with the Eels and leave an outstanding coastal location. $800k a year and the coast for Parramatta?

Yeah but it’s St George lol

 

[balmain boy]

As good as Schiller is and would’ve loved to had him, signing him blocks other kids coming through the development system. Richo is keen on being a development club now so unless it was a position that we are sorely lacking through the juniors, or an older player to fill the void till the young ones are ready, I don’t see us making many external signings moving forward.

Wow, that's just crazy talk. We have the weakest roster in the NRL and need quality ASAP.
And yes wing and centre is a position we are sorely lacking in. We have the worst wingers and centres in the comp.
There's is absolutely no doubt we will recruit from outside, especially in the outside backs and second row where we have very few prospects and they're still a way away from NRL standard.

 

[balmain boy]

Opposite. If he plays 2 origins he's locked into his deal. Madge won't pick him to spite us

Wrong on both counts.
If he plays one origin game this year then his contract for 2025 is locked in.

And Madge will pick the best and most in form players available to him. Stefano isn't the best prop in the game at the moment, of course, but he's been to there with the best this season so he's thereabouts

 

[KingRobbie]

Wrong on both counts.
If he plays one origin game this year then his contract for 2025 is locked in.

And Madge will pick the best and most in form players available to him. Stefano isn't the best prop in the game at the moment, of course, but he's been to there with the best this season so he's thereabouts

 

[GNR4LIFE]

If the only thing keeping him is a clause, then there isn’t much chance of him staying beyond 25.

 

[851]

Opposite. If he plays 2 origins he's locked into his deal. Madge won't pick him to spite us

He has already played one origin, so he only has to play one this year

 

[hank37w]

If the only thing keeping him is a clause, then there isn’t much chance of him staying beyond 25.

He might be a gift from Santa Claus.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Opposite. If he plays 2 origins he's locked into his deal. Madge won't pick him to spite us

He’s not that petty.

 

[balmain boy]

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So absolutely everyone got it wrong when the clause was first discovered/announced? I don't buy it. Nor do I buy that the club would insert a clause stating if he played half of all the origin games over the next two years he'd be locked in, considering how far from origin he still was when he first signed.

 

[balmain boy]

If the only thing keeping him is a clause, then there isn’t much chance of him staying beyond 25.

He's already started publicly he doesn't care about the clause, his agent instated it, and he wants to stay.
Question is, was that true or BS

 

[Vicious]

He's already started publicly he doesn't care about the clause, his agent instated it, and he wants to stay.
Question is, was that true or BS

If we don’t start winning at least 50% of our games fast, he will get sick of ripping & tearing for no result and will highly likely depart.
It’s that simple.
Like you BB I’m in disbelief we are doing nothing about strengthening our roster, while all the worthwhile talent are signing elsewhere.
Meanwhile we are in a struggle to hold onto arguably our best forward and best young up and coming prospect.