Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Vicious said:
Without looking too closely into it other than watching highlights on BarTV and looking at the weekly stats, I would say he appears to have improved his ability under the high ball and improved his general ball handling, but I suspect his poor defensive reads and lack of football IQ is still an issue preventing the Panthers from considering him as a genuine NRL option.
Anyway it’s all speculation at the moment as we are just going off the post on this thread from earlier today, for all we know there may be nothing to it.
For the record I’d be looking to try and extend Brent Naden for another season, he might cost a bit more than someone like Kepaoa, but seems to be a much more reliable back up option for our outside backs.
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Defensively he can't be worse then naden
 
Tucker said:
No way.
That is extraordinary money for a player who gets bashed up all game every week. He’ll start copping some injuries soon. You can’t be in the front row playing like he does forever.
Look how big JT came back to the field after a few years of being a superhero. It’s not sustainable.
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PREACH!!
Same thing we're doing with May....
Everyone is marvelling his stats, He's doing not much more than 2 Props would be doing with the same minutes.

I love how he plays (Don't get me wrong) but flogging the crap out of him is just taking the focus off our shitty interchanging and under-strength Bench and isn't sustainable.
 
batboy said:
PREACH!!
Same thing we're doing with May....
Everyone is marvelling his stats, He's doing not much more than 2 Props would be doing with the same minutes.

I love how he plays (Don't get me wrong) but flogging the crap out of him is just taking the focus off our shitty interchanging and under-strength Bench and isn't sustainable.
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We need to get more offensive output from our backrow , it’s our major flaw.
 
BAGNF05 said:
We need to get more offensive output from our backrow , it’s our major flaw.
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I'd also argue our Bench Domestic prop isn't at the level it should be either, And we don't get a lot of minutes out of Royce usually...

Sam Fainu has been really off the boil this year, Surprised it's not mentioned more.... Seyfarth is Seyfarth and Bird usually goes to Lock and Pushes Twal to front (From bits I've noticed) Unless he's needed elsewhere, Carrying a Utility like Bird and a Specialist Hooker as well is a recipe for disaster for mine - But what would would I know...

No real Punch or Dynamic in a lot of it, I'm interested to see how long it keeps up or what happens with an injury. getting 40 odd put on us by the team coming last without Royce might be an indication?
 
teddy23 said:
Payne Hass under the radar available to talk to clubs November 1st.

Brisbane having some cap problems as well with Staggs, Cobbo and Walsh all off contract too.

All that money saved up from Galvin, Papalili, Klemmer and Stefano. I’d be throwing it all at him and then some.

May and May to build our pack around for that next decade would be something special.
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With both his parents in jail, Payne is now the sole care giver/guardian for two of his younger siblings. They are currently in school up in QLD so there is little to no chance Haas leaves Brisbane as the younger brothers are on scholarships and older brother is in a wheelchair.
 
batboy said:
I'd also argue our Bench Domestic prop isn't at the level it should be either, And we don't get a lot of minutes out of Royce usually...

Sam Fainu has been really off the boil this year, Surprised it's not mentioned more.... Seyfarth is Seyfarth and Bird usually goes to Lock and Pushes Twal to front (From bits I've noticed) Unless he's needed elsewhere, Carrying a Utility like Bird and a Specialist Hooker as well is a recipe for disaster for mine - But what would would I know...

No real Punch or Dynamic in a lot of it, I'm interested to see how long it keeps up or what happens with an injury. getting 40 odd put on us by the team coming last without Royce might be an indication?
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That is why I'd actually go hard to sign Lazarus Vaalepu from the Storm to provide cover for Royce if/when he's injured or even usurp him. He's from western Sydney I believe, is a powerhouse, experienced and been in the Storm system. And off-contract now.
 
batboy said:
I'd also argue our Bench Domestic prop isn't at the level it should be either, And we don't get a lot of minutes out of Royce usually...

Sam Fainu has been really off the boil this year, Surprised it's not mentioned more.... Seyfarth is Seyfarth and Bird usually goes to Lock and Pushes Twal to front (From bits I've noticed) Unless he's needed elsewhere, Carrying a Utility like Bird and a Specialist Hooker as well is a recipe for disaster for mine - But what would would I know...

No real Punch or Dynamic in a lot of it, I'm interested to see how long it keeps up or what happens with an injury. getting 40 odd put on us by the team coming last without Royce might be an indication?
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All good points. How long can TM keep
Up his enormous output also?
Sam F finally had a good game on Sunday.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Will be supporting the Sharks next weekend and every team that plays against Parramatta. Really hoping they run stone motherless and get picked apart by expansion clubs.
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I agree, but it's also worth noting that they really don't have anything anyone ought to want. If I'm running roster construction for the Perth Bears, who am I genuinely interested in out of Parra? Moses isn't going anywhere and Lomax has only just signed - really what else is there? Iongi is a decent runner but could easily be a flash in the pan. Willy Penis is ok. Hopgood is another back rower Brad Arthur and Moses made look good for a year or two. The rest of their roster is dross, or past it dross.
 
batboy said:
I'd also argue our Bench Domestic prop isn't at the level it should be either, And we don't get a lot of minutes out of Royce usually...

Sam Fainu has been really off the boil this year, Surprised it's not mentioned more.... Seyfarth is Seyfarth and Bird usually goes to Lock and Pushes Twal to front (From bits I've noticed) Unless he's needed elsewhere, Carrying a Utility like Bird and a Specialist Hooker as well is a recipe for disaster for mine - But what would would I know...

No real Punch or Dynamic in a lot of it, I'm interested to see how long it keeps up or what happens with an injury. getting 40 odd put on us by the team coming last without Royce might be an indication?
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I gotta disagree here... I think him & Luais combination has been getting better every week & he himself is growing in confidence every game.
 
The Sharks were a good test for the strength of the pack on the weekend. I didn't feel at any stage that they completed dominated us other than AFB who is arguably as good as Haas on his day.
Injuries are going to be downfall when and if they come you don't have to be a genius to work that out.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
There is no doubt we will lose a player or 2 Nov 1 to Perth and the following Nov 1 to PNG. Most clubs will likely lose someone.

Hopefully for us it's just a player/s off-contract who is depth and sees a better opportunity of first 17 at the new franchise.

I'd say this is part of the reason why the club wanted to know the Galvin situation now, so one way or another, we can attempt to extend players now or work to recruit players in now.

Players I feel may be approached as soon as Perth's recruitment team is assembled are Doueihi, Naden, Feledy & Staines. Then come Nov 1, Starford, Api, TDS, Skelton & Bird will be gauged no doubt.

I wouldn't think the Laulilii brothers would want to leave their family at their age.

So Richo will be trying to sort out our hooker situation long-term asap as well as extend Starford & Jeral.

I also think keeping the Fainu brothers together & even bringing together the May brothers would be calculated long-term investments.

Thoughts?
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I do agree that the Perth team will be looking at at least a few of our players.
Billy Moore made it very clear he will target a strong front row with Payne Haas as his number one target. If he misses out on him, I’d say Terrell May would become a target also, so we need to extend Terrell ASAP, probably means an upgrade will be required.
I rate Latu extremely highly, but I honestly cannot see a Jerome Luai, Latu Fainu halves combination working, not enough control in my opinion, so not sure how that will work out, but I do agree keeping all 3 Fainu brothers long term would be ideal.
 
Will the Bears get additional salary cap provision to attract players as a start up - going to WA is not like heading to QLD or Melbourne it may as well be another country?
 
2041 said:
I agree, but it's also worth noting that they really don't have anything anyone ought to want. If I'm running roster construction for the Perth Bears, who am I genuinely interested in out of Parra? Moses isn't going anywhere and Lomax has only just signed - really what else is there? Iongi is a decent runner but could easily be a flash in the pan. Willy Penis is ok. Hopgood is another back rower Brad Arthur and Moses made look good for a year or two. The rest of their roster is dross, or past it dross.
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That dross roster taught ours a lesson last week.
 
WesternSuburbsBoy said:
I gotta disagree here... I think him & Luais combination has been getting better every week & he himself is growing in confidence every game.
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You disagreeing, There's a shock.
He's well down on last year, and I'm not on my own...
I've heard it mentioned in the media Plenty.

Luai is the best Tigers half he's played with, He should have started playing better out of the gates
- if anything.
 
batboy said:
You disagreeing, There's a shock.
He's well down on last year, and I'm not on my own...
I've heard it mentioned in the media Plenty.

Luai is the best Tigers half he's played with, He should have started playing better out of the gates
- if anything.
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Combinations take time to grow & develop. I'm not saying he's been as good as he was last year but he hasn't been as bad as you're making him out to be. I think part of it could be a coaching issue as well... seems like we don't utilise our backrowers enough.
 
Jolls said:
You are right on the culture building side of the house. We need to focus on developing a Wests Tigers that kids want to be part of. While I think Api has built the foundation the biggest change has been driven by Luai. This is also evident in the change of Api in his role on the paddock. With Luai directing play Api is much more animated in an around the ruck with hand signals and his voice and you can see chatter between him and Luai as they approach the ruck.

I know Luai's numbers are down on what he produced at the Riff but in a different role he is really making his mark. His influence on the culture at the club can't be underestimated and I think he is more important to keep than Api - although in my perfect world we would find a way to keep them both and TDS.
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For sure mate, Luai has made a big difference. It makes you wonder whether he is the reason Penrith are struggling in defence so much. I'll add Turuva in there too, but I think together, they make a strong leadership combo.

Would just like to see it embedded into the club and have the next leaders coming through before Api leaves.

I don't think TDS can play 80 right now anyway, so there's nothing wrong with a TDS/Api rotation for a couple more years. Particularly if he's playing the way he is now.
 
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