Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

batboy said:
You been living under a rock?
Yeah they were - spewing to lose Sam but happy to see the back of Latus contract.
and gauging how much footy he played in his last year with them (and the 2 years since) maybe they had something better to do with a few hundred thousand every year than poke it into rehab?

Luckily for them, they found the ever accomodating Tigers.

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And - they’ve still got one of the best halves in the country…
He even plays footy most weeks.
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Receipts please.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
You’d take Hopgood every day of the week over Hetherington. Have no idea where the constant interest in Kobe comes from. It’s not quite Tyrone May level, but it’s in the ball park. Hopgood would be great, but I doubt he’s available.
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Kobe doesn’t pass the ball and doesn’t play close to 80. We’d be better off sticking with Twal at 13.

Hopgood isn’t available and there isn’t really a good 13 available. I’d be focused on finding an impact prop who can last 40 minutes for depth, centre (to replace Naden), and keep trying to get Reynolds for a year if Broncos don’t keep him.
 
user118245 said:
Just something funny to note, Jonah Gloved the young Dragons #7 we were linked to is from Richo’s second favourite Tigers, the Brisbane Tigers
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I have zero issues with that . 2x feeder clubs 1 official the other unofficial , is a good thing . If the quality isn’t in nsw . It very well might be in qld . Like I said that’s only a positive .
Also with the same emblem , it feels like a natural fit , as east’s will most probably never make the nrl as its own team .
 
Tom Shines said:
The younger Fainu’s are on $550k a year …that’s not cheap for young unproven guys .. it was a bit of a gamble …but Sam looks to have the goods ..,

I like Latu’s potential … but so far he can’t stay on the field …. The absolute best ability Is availability
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Receipts please.
 
batboy said:
You been living under a rock?
Yeah they were - spewing to lose Sam but happy to see the back of Latus contract.
and gauging how much footy he played in his last year with them (and the 2 years since) maybe they had something better to do with a few hundred thousand every year than poke it into rehab?

Luckily for them, they found the ever accomodating Tigers.

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And - they’ve still got one of the best halves in the country…
He even plays footy most weeks.
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I get the thinking on Latu given the horror run with injuries. Then I think back to Blores time with us and the amount of time he spent injured to then leave and pretty much play non stop. I’m hopeful that Latu follows a similar pattern but stays put and flourishes.
 
Tom Shines said:
I only provide receipts to my accountant
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Fair enough.

Given the RLPA's stance on not releasing contract values, we can never be certain.

But from all reports, the four year contracts were worth up to $2 million each. I've heard Latu's was even less than that.

They were all reported to be growing over the course of the contract for each of them too.

So our best bet, based upon the available information, is that the contracts add up to an average of 500k a season at most, with the first couple of years reported as being less than that figure.

At no point, anywhere, can I find any suggestion that either of them are on in excess of 500k/yr for these contracts, especially in the first two years.

Happy to be wrong if you have more information than what I can find but I don't believe it to be the case.

I think we have a hard enough time with the media inflating the value of supposed Tigers' players' contracts in order to criticise recruitment decisions without our own fans falling for unsubstantiated numbers.
 
Tom Shines said:
The younger Fainu’s are on $550k a year …that’s not cheap for young unproven guys .. it was a bit of a gamble …but Sam looks to have the goods ..,

I like Latu’s potential … but so far he can’t stay on the field …. The absolute best ability Is availability
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In the scheme of things, is 550k for a half that expensive? Probably a little overs when we first signed him, but now it's about the right money.

Sam went straight into grade. 550k is about right.

Sione is quite a bargain.

As it stands today, I think we have value on all 3 contracts.
 
Kelce68 said:
Fair enough.

Given the RLPA's stance on not releasing contract values, we can never be certain.

But from all reports, the four year contracts were worth up to $2 million each. I've heard Latu's was even less than that.

They were all reported to be growing over the course of the contract for each of them too.

So our best bet, based upon the available information, is that the contracts add up to an average of 500k a season at most, with the first couple of years reported as being less than that figure.

At no point, anywhere, can I find any suggestion that either of them are on in excess of 500k/yr for these contracts, especially in the first two years.

Happy to be wrong if you have more information than what I can find but I don't believe it to be the case.

I think we have a hard enough time with the media inflating the value of supposed Tigers' players' contracts in order to criticise recruitment decisions without our own fans falling for unsubstantiated numbers.
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I have seen and heard media reports of both $500k and $550k…they are both recorded on the zero tackle site at $500k per year if you want to use that as a reference …

I’ll say that my original point still stands even at $500k/ $2mil each
 
weststigers said:
In the scheme of things, is 550k for a half that expensive? Probably a little overs when we first signed him, but now it's about the right money.

Sam went straight into grade. 550k is about right.

Sione is quite a bargain.

As it stands today, I think we have value on all 3 contracts.
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It doesnt seem expensive now …even with his injury concerns ,,,,just saying it was a gamble at the time…

They paid Bud Sullivan around that too,,,. That looks overs ….dont you agree ? And Bud had played a bit of NRL before they signed him …

Sione was a pretty under rated/ minimum contract guy when they signed him … he has improved considerably over the past two years ,,
 
API appears to be a target for the Bears and don't think the NRL will be enforcing any anti tampering rules on them - they need a decent squad quick. Hate to see him go but may just be an opportunity for a player in his twilight years too good to refuse..
 
Telltails said:
API appears to be a target for the Bears and don't think the NRL will be enforcing any anti tampering rules on them - they need a decent squad quick. Hate to see him go but may just be an opportunity for a player in his twilight years too good to refuse..
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Again …let’s not jump the gun … evidence is sketchy at the moment …. And this is coming from someone hoping they re-sign TDS in 2027
 
Tom Shines said:
It doesnt seem expensive now …even with his injury concerns ,,,,just saying it was a gamble at the time…

They paid Bud Sullivan around that too,,,. That looks overs ….dont you agree ? And Bud had played a bit of NRL before the signed him …

Sione was a pretty under rated/ minimum contract guy when they signed him … he has improved considerably over the past two years ,,
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Oh yeah...Buds is overs even now. I agree with that. Probably overs by 200k when we signed him and only by about 100k or so now, but still overs. We need to get out of that contract.
 
Tom Shines said:
I have seen and heard media reports of both $500k and $550k…they are both recorded on the zero tackle site at $500k per year if you want to use that as a reference …

I’ll say that my original point still stands even at $500k/ $2mil each
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Don't use Zero Tackle. They're most definitely worse than simply canvassing the major outlets. Half the time they don't even list the squad members correctly.

It truly baffles me that anybody uses them as a source for anything.

Can you link me to where anyone has mentioned $550k? I'd be interested to see how they've worded their article.

Also, that's fine for your point to stand, I'm not directly refuting that, it has some validity and I understand that perspective.

Your original comment was more a reminder of something I'd wanted to mention in general discussion on here for quite some time, which is in regards to the parroting of numbers that aren't based in reality or on anything concrete.

It is hard to use specific numbers when it comes to discussion of players' value, primarily because we don't actually know accurately what they are.

For example, some people may bring up Seyfarth as an example of good value, then quote a contract of ~350k-odd, yet, someone else will argue he's a waste of money at ~550k.

Point is, the reliance on figures as part of any discussion or point is shaky in our sport, unless there is the rare occurrence of some legitimate knowledge of a player's contract value.

Even small differences of 50/100k can swing the discussion one way or another and as fans, we have no idea whether what we're spouting is correct or not.
 
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