Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Russell]

I am going to go against all those saying we wouldn't want Kevin Procter. He would be a great signing imo

What does he bring - Experience, Professionalism, great defence, leadership

Our forward pack for next year has no one over the age of 25 - we need what he brings. We will be loosing a great deal of experience in lawrence, ET, McQueen, Eisenhuth and prob Packer if we find a buyer plus Marshall so we need experience and leadership

He is the current NZ secondrower with 200+ games of FG and we don't have 2 FG class 2nd rowers. We have been playing Lawrence, Garner, Sam MciNtyre in our back row and you don't want a an NRL captain, current NZ rep 2nd rower known for his professionalism , great attitude and to be one of the hardest trainers around.

Im not saying he is what he was at Storm but thats not what we are after either - although his stats at Titans are the same as at Storm except he makes a few more tackles and 1 less run because they have less ball.

he might not be the best 2nd rower in the comp now but he is better then any of ours

Disagree - I don't think currently he is as good as Lucy.

Typical Blair signing - thought we had left that all behind us.

 

[Russell]

Question for those strongly against the idea of signing Proctor.

Would you prefer Lawrence Or McIntyre instead of Proctor?

Prefer Rowdy over Proctor. Always have, always will.

 

[jirskyr]

Another report today saying we are keeping an eye on Jack De Belin too. Don’t see him leaving dragons if found innocent though, would be a dog move considering they stood by him through the whole thing.

Would love to have him, was one of the best locks going around (don't think he would leave either), but his old man did play for the Tigers.

I'd struggle to support the club if we signed de belin tbh.

I'd always support the club, but struggle to support the direction the coach was taking.

Why can I ask - If De Belin signed with us it would mean he wasn't guilty - so what would be your issue ?

If he is found not guilty, or if the case is dismissed due to whatever reason, that doesn't mean he didn't do what they accused him of. I don't trust the legal system to always get those things right.

I don't know what happened, I have no other information than what I've read from public sources, but the picture painted leads me to think he is the sort of person I wouldn't want in my football team or anywhere near anyone or anything I hold dear.

very well said.

Not very well said at all. The legal system is the best we've got and you can't assassinate a bloke's personality simply because he was accused of something. No - nothing about the de Belin reports paint a good picture, but those are not evidence, nor are they are fair and impartially run trial.

By the same logic you string up Brett Stewart or Josh Reynolds, based on the "picture that is painted".

 

[avocadoontoast]

Another report today saying we are keeping an eye on Jack De Belin too. Don’t see him leaving dragons if found innocent though, would be a dog move considering they stood by him through the whole thing.

Would love to have him, was one of the best locks going around (don't think he would leave either), but his old man did play for the Tigers.

I'd struggle to support the club if we signed de belin tbh.

I'd always support the club, but struggle to support the direction the coach was taking.

Why can I ask - If De Belin signed with us it would mean he wasn't guilty - so what would be your issue ?

If he is found not guilty, or if the case is dismissed due to whatever reason, that doesn't mean he didn't do what they accused him of. I don't trust the legal system to always get those things right.

I don't know what happened, I have no other information than what I've read from public sources, but the picture painted leads me to think he is the sort of person I wouldn't want in my football team or anywhere near anyone or anything I hold dear.

very well said.

Not very well said at all. The legal system is the best we've got and you can't assassinate a bloke's personality simply because he was accused of something. No - nothing about the de Belin reports paint a good picture, but those are not evidence, nor are they are fair and impartially run trial.

By the same logic you string up Brett Stewart or Josh Reynolds, based on the "picture that is painted".

So you'd be ok signing up OJ Simpson?

 

[Russell]

Another report today saying we are keeping an eye on Jack De Belin too. Don’t see him leaving dragons if found innocent though, would be a dog move considering they stood by him through the whole thing.

Would love to have him, was one of the best locks going around (don't think he would leave either), but his old man did play for the Tigers.

I'd struggle to support the club if we signed de belin tbh.

I'd always support the club, but struggle to support the direction the coach was taking.

Why can I ask - If De Belin signed with us it would mean he wasn't guilty - so what would be your issue ?

If he is found not guilty, or if the case is dismissed due to whatever reason, that doesn't mean he didn't do what they accused him of. I don't trust the legal system to always get those things right.

I don't know what happened, I have no other information than what I've read from public sources, but the picture painted leads me to think he is the sort of person I wouldn't want in my football team or anywhere near anyone or anything I hold dear.

very well said.

Not very well said at all. The legal system is the best we've got and you can't assassinate a bloke's personality simply because he was accused of something. No - nothing about the de Belin reports paint a good picture, but those are not evidence, nor are they are fair and impartially run trial.

By the same logic you string up Brett Stewart or Josh Reynolds, based on the "picture that is painted".

So you'd be ok signing up OJ Simpson?

I wouldn't Avo - definitely has no experience - in the NRL that is.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

I am going to go against all those saying we wouldn't want Kevin Procter. He would be a great signing imo

What does he bring - Experience, Professionalism, great defence, leadership

Our forward pack for next year has no one over the age of 25 - we need what he brings. We will be loosing a great deal of experience in lawrence, ET, McQueen, Eisenhuth and prob Packer if we find a buyer plus Marshall so we need experience and leadership

He is the current NZ secondrower with 200+ games of FG and we don't have 2 FG class 2nd rowers. We have been playing Lawrence, Garner, Sam MciNtyre in our back row and you don't want a an NRL captain, current NZ rep 2nd rower known for his professionalism , great attitude and to be one of the hardest trainers around.

Im not saying he is what he was at Storm but thats not what we are after either - although his stats at Titans are the same as at Storm except he makes a few more tackles and 1 less run because they have less ball.

he might not be the best 2nd rower in the comp now but he is better then any of ours

Disagree - I don't think currently he is as good as Lucy.

Typical Blair signing - thought we had left that all behind us.

Thought we’d left loses to last placed teams behind as well. Obviously not!

 

[JD Tiger]

Another report today saying we are keeping an eye on Jack De Belin too. Don’t see him leaving dragons if found innocent though, would be a dog move considering they stood by him through the whole thing.

Would love to have him, was one of the best locks going around (don't think he would leave either), but his old man did play for the Tigers.

I'd struggle to support the club if we signed de belin tbh.

I'd always support the club, but struggle to support the direction the coach was taking.

Why can I ask - If De Belin signed with us it would mean he wasn't guilty - so what would be your issue ?

If he is found not guilty, or if the case is dismissed due to whatever reason, that doesn't mean he didn't do what they accused him of. I don't trust the legal system to always get those things right.

I don't know what happened, I have no other information than what I've read from public sources, but the picture painted leads me to think he is the sort of person I wouldn't want in my football team or anywhere near anyone or anything I hold dear.

very well said.

Not very well said at all. The legal system is the best we've got and you can't assassinate a bloke's personality simply because he was accused of something. No - nothing about the de Belin reports paint a good picture, but those are not evidence, nor are they are fair and impartially run trial.

By the same logic you string up Brett Stewart or Josh Reynolds, based on the "picture that is painted".

I didn't say it was evidence or comment at all on the impartiality or fairness of a trial.
I said I was led to think that he's the sort of person I wouldn't want around my football club.

I expressed my opinion, and it seems like you understood my expression so that's good. You don't agree with what I expressed, that's fine too, you don't have to.

The actions that were reported about this guy were disgusting, and as I said, I don't have any information on what really happened (no one except the people that were there can ever really know for sure), so if I was the boss of WT I would err on the side of caution and not go near him.

Hardly stringing anyone up. More looking after the integrity of WT and not willing to risk it on a potentially risky player.

 

[TheDaBoss]

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[avocadoontoast]

Another report today saying we are keeping an eye on Jack De Belin too. Don’t see him leaving dragons if found innocent though, would be a dog move considering they stood by him through the whole thing.

Would love to have him, was one of the best locks going around (don't think he would leave either), but his old man did play for the Tigers.

I'd struggle to support the club if we signed de belin tbh.

I'd always support the club, but struggle to support the direction the coach was taking.

Why can I ask - If De Belin signed with us it would mean he wasn't guilty - so what would be your issue ?

If he is found not guilty, or if the case is dismissed due to whatever reason, that doesn't mean he didn't do what they accused him of. I don't trust the legal system to always get those things right.

I don't know what happened, I have no other information than what I've read from public sources, but the picture painted leads me to think he is the sort of person I wouldn't want in my football team or anywhere near anyone or anything I hold dear.

very well said.

Not very well said at all. The legal system is the best we've got and you can't assassinate a bloke's personality simply because he was accused of something. No - nothing about the de Belin reports paint a good picture, but those are not evidence, nor are they are fair and impartially run trial.

By the same logic you string up Brett Stewart or Josh Reynolds, based on the "picture that is painted".

So you'd be ok signing up OJ Simpson?

I wouldn't Avo - definitely has no experience - in the NRL that is.

Probably getting on a bit too to be honest.

 

[OzLuke]

Another report today saying we are keeping an eye on Jack De Belin too. Don’t see him leaving dragons if found innocent though, would be a dog move considering they stood by him through the whole thing.

Would love to have him, was one of the best locks going around (don't think he would leave either), but his old man did play for the Tigers.

I'd struggle to support the club if we signed de belin tbh.

I'd always support the club, but struggle to support the direction the coach was taking.

Why can I ask - If De Belin signed with us it would mean he wasn't guilty - so what would be your issue ?

If he is found not guilty, or if the case is dismissed due to whatever reason, that doesn't mean he didn't do what they accused him of. I don't trust the legal system to always get those things right.

I don't know what happened, I have no other information than what I've read from public sources, but the picture painted leads me to think he is the sort of person I wouldn't want in my football team or anywhere near anyone or anything I hold dear.

very well said.

Not very well said at all. The legal system is the best we've got and you can't assassinate a bloke's personality simply because he was accused of something. No - nothing about the de Belin reports paint a good picture, but those are not evidence, nor are they are fair and impartially run trial.

By the same logic you string up Brett Stewart or Josh Reynolds, based on the "picture that is painted".

I didn't say it was evidence or comment at all on the impartiality or fairness of a trial.
I said I was led to think that he's the sort of person I wouldn't want around my football club.

I expressed my opinion, and it seems like you understood my expression so that's good. You don't agree with what I expressed, that's fine too, you don't have to.

The actions that were reported about this guy were disgusting, and as I said, I don't have any information on what really happened (no one except the people that were there can ever really know for sure), so if I was the boss of WT I would err on the side of caution and not go near him.

Hardly stringing anyone up. More looking after the integrity of WT and not willing to risk it on a potentially risky player.

I agree....guilty of a crime or not, the guy definitely tarnished himself by doing what he did with a pregnant wife at home.....he's a moral squid.....

 

[boonboon]

Jesus if we didn't take footy players who cheated on their partners then we would be lucky to fill a 30 man squad Id suggest

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Another report today saying we are keeping an eye on Jack De Belin too. Don’t see him leaving dragons if found innocent though, would be a dog move considering they stood by him through the whole thing.

Would love to have him, was one of the best locks going around (don't think he would leave either), but his old man did play for the Tigers.

I'd struggle to support the club if we signed de belin tbh.

I'd always support the club, but struggle to support the direction the coach was taking.

Why can I ask - If De Belin signed with us it would mean he wasn't guilty - so what would be your issue ?

If he is found not guilty, or if the case is dismissed due to whatever reason, that doesn't mean he didn't do what they accused him of. I don't trust the legal system to always get those things right.

I don't know what happened, I have no other information than what I've read from public sources, but the picture painted leads me to think he is the sort of person I wouldn't want in my football team or anywhere near anyone or anything I hold dear.

very well said.

Not very well said at all. The legal system is the best we've got and you can't assassinate a bloke's personality simply because he was accused of something. No - nothing about the de Belin reports paint a good picture, but those are not evidence, nor are they are fair and impartially run trial.

By the same logic you string up Brett Stewart or Josh Reynolds, based on the "picture that is painted".

So you'd be ok signing up OJ Simpson?

OJ prefers Broncos.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

You wake up ! It’s this very attitude why the system is broken. You don’t have to be a piece of crap. You can choose to operate in a way that’s fair yet still aggressive in recruitment and retention. This is what irritates me about rugby league in general “it’s war” LOL.
Hot tip , it’s not war . It’s business. Every other sport can operate in a way that’s respectful , to all the parties .
It’s this backwards , tribal , 1970s type thinking that holds the sport back . Loans should have happened 30 years ago . Trades should be happening . We should be sitting here talking about trade packages for Addo Carr . Or potential landing spots for some of our players. But nope , we talk about sabotaging a loan agreement .

That's extremely naive thinking. And the type of thinking that doesn't make the finals. Nice guys finish last. You think the Roosters are nice guys? Storm?

And you also have to wake up that there's no sabotage, it's business, and what's in his contract. It's fair play and us aggressively pursuing a fine young player. Nothing more.

Naive ? Umm no . It’s obvious you can chose to operate like that. But you don’t have to . The storm don’t operate like that . They don’t . ? sorry . And the roosters don’t operate like that either . Sorry . When you make a deal you stand by it , and the fact so many of you justify that behaviour makes me laugh because you all were extremely vocal around October last year. BUt EvERYoNE DoES IT.

 

[Nelson]

Good on Rankin
He will do something Nofo probably wont and that is play in a semi final
Even our most hated player in Jennings has played semi final football
good luck Rankin good back up player

Well if the Tigers made it to a semi final then Nofo would be likely to play. If the Eels made it to a semi final then they probably wouldn't be picking Rankin unless 6 of Blake, Gutherson, Jennings, Jennings, Ferguson, Takairangi, Sivo, Smith, Dunster and Salmon were injured...

 

[Russell]

We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

Why not.....everyone else does.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Good on Rankin
He will do something Nofo probably wont and that is play in a semi final
Even our most hated player in Jennings has played semi final football
good luck Rankin good back up player

You think Rankin will be in first grade? And you really have a complex about Noffa’s finals record don’t you.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

Why not.....everyone else does.

Cos it would make you a hypocrite?

 

[Geo]

We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

Why not.....everyone else does.

Cos it would make you a hypocrite?

And then what happens,,?

 

[jirskyr]

Another report today saying we are keeping an eye on Jack De Belin too. Don’t see him leaving dragons if found innocent though, would be a dog move considering they stood by him through the whole thing.

Would love to have him, was one of the best locks going around (don't think he would leave either), but his old man did play for the Tigers.

I'd struggle to support the club if we signed de belin tbh.

I'd always support the club, but struggle to support the direction the coach was taking.

Why can I ask - If De Belin signed with us it would mean he wasn't guilty - so what would be your issue ?

If he is found not guilty, or if the case is dismissed due to whatever reason, that doesn't mean he didn't do what they accused him of. I don't trust the legal system to always get those things right.

I don't know what happened, I have no other information than what I've read from public sources, but the picture painted leads me to think he is the sort of person I wouldn't want in my football team or anywhere near anyone or anything I hold dear.

very well said.

Not very well said at all. The legal system is the best we've got and you can't assassinate a bloke's personality simply because he was accused of something. No - nothing about the de Belin reports paint a good picture, but those are not evidence, nor are they are fair and impartially run trial.

By the same logic you string up Brett Stewart or Josh Reynolds, based on the "picture that is painted".

So you'd be ok signing up OJ Simpson?

No because he's 72 years old.