Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181476) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181468) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181451) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181435) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181431) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181430) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181420) said:
Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

They also signed the world's best player.
 
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181499) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181476) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181468) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181451) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181435) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181431) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181430) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181420) said:
Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

Can Tedesco come with a touch of Cronk..

Phenomenal right!
I don’t know if it is worth biting really.
And to think Sezer would do a better job as a ‘game manager’ is laughable.

What our team desperately needs is support for our half. Be it Brooks, be it Walters. We need a firecracker 5/8 that has the ability to get on the edge of his inside defenders push the line every time, neat little grubber in etc.
Basically Benji 10years ago.
To think Brooks is capable of that on his own alongside a game manager is laughable.
Anyway forwards win games. And ours drop the ball whenever we have good field possession.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181423) said:
@dazza65 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181417) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181398) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181141) said:
I've just heard a rumour, and please note it is a rumour that the Tigers and Storm have agreed on a permanent swap between Brooks and Grant.

Sauce

Pls not twitter?

If true watch him thrive in the Storm system and reach his full potential

? he needs a change

By change I mean a system of success.

Isn't he just a better version of Brodie Croft?
 
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181486) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181371) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181310) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181289) said:
Herman Ese’Ese officially signed with Titans


and if they got Fafita, thats a core of a decent pack.

If they have signed Essesse , they have missed Fifita

I was thinking that too - time to go hard for TPJ.

Yeah he’d be high on my list of targets, would add something different to our pack.
 
What are we talking about?

I think some people are saying we need a halfback and others are saying we need everything.

Are we really that bad? One more edge forward, middle will be ok with Blore and Stefano and all the current crop one year older.

One winger.

Maybe one half or fullback with AD to 5/8.

One of the above has to kick goals.

Keep it simple.

3 players from the top 4 imo.
 
Looking at middle forwards next year we have:

Twal, Aloiai, Mikaele, Packer, Blore, Stefano, and hopefully Huth and maybe one of Clark or Seyfarth (my preference is Clark.) A good mix of punch and workhorses there.

Second rowers is my area of concern. Our starting forwards in Garner and Lucy are fine, but we are lacking two more quality second rowers.

Halves we are stocked for regardless of what everyone says. Brooks, Reynolds, Madden, and Mbye can also play there.

Centres next year we will be fine with Momo, BJ, Talau. Mbye will probably be shoehorned in there since he's on big money and has nowhere else to play.

Wingers is the other major area of concern. It's Nofo and a kid who is a centre at the moment. Need a pacey winger or two, and one for depth.

Doueihi at the back is fine but who replaces him if he does down. Mbye?

Hooker is another discussion to be had but that all hinges on what happens at Melbourne as I would guess we would throw the kitchen sink at Harry if he is able to walk on his contract.
 
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181525) said:
What are we talking about?

I think some people are saying we need a halfback and others are saying we need everything.

Are we really that bad? One more edge forward, middle will be ok with Blore and Stefano and all the current crop one year older.

One winger.

Maybe one half or fullback with AD to 5/8.

One of the above has to kick goals.

Keep it simple.

3 players from the top 4 imo.

Spot on, we need all those positions you listed and we need quality players there. Rest of the team looks pretty solid. Possibly could need a hooker but Madge seems to like liddle, hopefully he stays fit
 
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181510) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181499) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181476) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181468) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181451) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181435) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181431) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181430) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181420) said:
Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

Can Tedesco come with a touch of Cronk..

Phenomenal right!
I don’t know if it is worth biting really.
And to think Sezer would do a better job as a ‘game manager’ is laughable.

What our team desperately needs is support for our half. Be it Brooks, be it Walters. We need a firecracker 5/8 that has the ability to get on the edge of his inside defenders push the line every time, neat little grubber in etc.
Basically Benji 10years ago.
To think Brooks is capable of that on his own alongside a game manager is laughable.
Anyway forwards win games. And ours drop the ball whenever we have good field possession.

Sezer was a good enough game manager to help his team to a grand final last year, he was very good. Brooks in my eyes would be a great 5/8
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181530) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181510) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181499) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181476) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181468) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181451) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181435) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181431) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181430) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181420) said:
Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

Can Tedesco come with a touch of Cronk..

Phenomenal right!
I don’t know if it is worth biting really.
And to think Sezer would do a better job as a ‘game manager’ is laughable.

What our team desperately needs is support for our half. Be it Brooks, be it Walters. We need a firecracker 5/8 that has the ability to get on the edge of his inside defenders push the line every time, neat little grubber in etc.
Basically Benji 10years ago.
To think Brooks is capable of that on his own alongside a game manager is laughable.
Anyway forwards win games. And ours drop the ball whenever we have good field possession.

Sezer was a good enough game manager to help his team to a grand final last year, he was very good. Brooks in my eyes would be a great 5/8

Disagree. He basically plays as a 5/8 at the moment and is being hammered hard for it.
In my opinion, coaches preferring Left Side, Right Side has killed Brooks.
He has no skill of a 5/8. He has all the skill of a traditional halfback.
The only think letting him down is his involvement.
Get a strike 5/8 and get Brooks (or Madden) in the middle of the field playing a traditional HB role.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181528) said:
Looking at middle forwards next year we have:

Twal, Aloiai, Mikaele, Packer, Blore, Stefano, and hopefully Huth and maybe one of Clark or Seyfarth (my preference is Clark.) A good mix of punch and workhorses there.

Second rowers is my area of concern. Our starting forwards in Garner and Lucy are fine, but we are lacking two more quality second rowers.

Halves we are stocked for regardless of what everyone says. Brooks, Reynolds, Madden, and Mbye can also play there.

Centres next year we will be fine with Momo, BJ, Talau. Mbye will probably be shoehorned in there since he's on big money and has nowhere else to play.

Wingers is the other major area of concern. It's Nofo and a kid who is a centre at the moment. Need a pacey winger or two, and one for depth.

Doueihi at the back is fine but who replaces him if he does down. Mbye?

Hooker is another discussion to be had but that all hinges on what happens at Melbourne as I would guess we would throw the kitchen sink at Harry if he is able to walk on his contract.

Dylan smith is our only other specialist full back In top 30

I don't see anything in him tho

I like the look of Josh rizk in jersey Flagg tho

He might slot in 2021-2022
 
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181531) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181530) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181510) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181499) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181476) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181468) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181451) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181435) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181431) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181430) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181420) said:
Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

Can Tedesco come with a touch of Cronk..

Phenomenal right!
I don’t know if it is worth biting really.
And to think Sezer would do a better job as a ‘game manager’ is laughable.

What our team desperately needs is support for our half. Be it Brooks, be it Walters. We need a firecracker 5/8 that has the ability to get on the edge of his inside defenders push the line every time, neat little grubber in etc.
Basically Benji 10years ago.
To think Brooks is capable of that on his own alongside a game manager is laughable.
Anyway forwards win games. And ours drop the ball whenever we have good field possession.

Sezer was a good enough game manager to help his team to a grand final last year, he was very good. Brooks in my eyes would be a great 5/8

Disagree. He basically plays as a 5/8 at the moment and is being hammered hard for it.
In my opinion, coaches preferring Left Side, Right Side has killed Brooks.
He has no skill of a 5/8. He has all the skill of a traditional halfback.
The only think letting him down is his involvement.
Get a strike 5/8 and get Brooks (or Madden) in the middle of the field playing a traditional HB role.

He doesn’t really play as a 5/8 because he’s got all the pressure of leading the team around and he can’t handle it. Put a game managing half next to him and just let him do what he does best, run the footy, short passing and short kicking. All a matter of opinion though ??
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181533) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181531) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181530) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181510) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181499) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181476) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181468) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181451) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181435) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181431) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181430) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181420) said:
Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

Can Tedesco come with a touch of Cronk..

Phenomenal right!
I don’t know if it is worth biting really.
And to think Sezer would do a better job as a ‘game manager’ is laughable.

What our team desperately needs is support for our half. Be it Brooks, be it Walters. We need a firecracker 5/8 that has the ability to get on the edge of his inside defenders push the line every time, neat little grubber in etc.
Basically Benji 10years ago.
To think Brooks is capable of that on his own alongside a game manager is laughable.
Anyway forwards win games. And ours drop the ball whenever we have good field possession.

Sezer was a good enough game manager to help his team to a grand final last year, he was very good. Brooks in my eyes would be a great 5/8

Disagree. He basically plays as a 5/8 at the moment and is being hammered hard for it.
In my opinion, coaches preferring Left Side, Right Side has killed Brooks.
He has no skill of a 5/8. He has all the skill of a traditional halfback.
The only think letting him down is his involvement.
Get a strike 5/8 and get Brooks (or Madden) in the middle of the field playing a traditional HB role.

He doesn’t really play as a 5/8 because he’s got all the pressure of leading the team around and he can’t handle it. Put a game managing half next to him and just let him do what he does best, run the footy, short passing and short kicking. All a matter of opinion though ??

Oh that's simple then lets get DCE the best game manager in the business..(Coops)..we sweet..
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181533) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181531) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181530) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181510) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181499) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181476) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181468) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181451) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181435) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181431) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181430) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181420) said:
Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

Can Tedesco come with a touch of Cronk..

Phenomenal right!
I don’t know if it is worth biting really.
And to think Sezer would do a better job as a ‘game manager’ is laughable.

What our team desperately needs is support for our half. Be it Brooks, be it Walters. We need a firecracker 5/8 that has the ability to get on the edge of his inside defenders push the line every time, neat little grubber in etc.
Basically Benji 10years ago.
To think Brooks is capable of that on his own alongside a game manager is laughable.
Anyway forwards win games. And ours drop the ball whenever we have good field possession.

Sezer was a good enough game manager to help his team to a grand final last year, he was very good. Brooks in my eyes would be a great 5/8

Disagree. He basically plays as a 5/8 at the moment and is being hammered hard for it.
In my opinion, coaches preferring Left Side, Right Side has killed Brooks.
He has no skill of a 5/8. He has all the skill of a traditional halfback.
The only think letting him down is his involvement.
Get a strike 5/8 and get Brooks (or Madden) in the middle of the field playing a traditional HB role.

He doesn’t really play as a 5/8 because he’s got all the pressure of leading the team around and he can’t handle it. Put a game managing half next to him and just let him do what he does best, run the footy, short passing and short kicking. All a matter of opinion though ??

Ok, as I said I disagree. The tigers play Left Side, Right Side and have ever since he an Mitchell Moses were the halves.
If you want to see him shine as a halfback. Go back to the games where we have a forward playing in the 5/8 position, in those games he is forced to do the traditional halfback role.
‘Eg when Marshall played hooker and Matterson played 5/8 last year.’ Even in our final game last year he was the best on the ground.

Oh and this quote from Cartwright and Sezer upon resigning with the Titans...

Titans coach John Cartwright is still yet to publicly declare where Sezer will play this year.

He has the talent and personality to shift to halfback but says he is a natural five-eighth.

"I've been a five-eighth all my life. These days it's pretty much the same job," he said. "Halfbacks have more control over the team but five-eighth opens you up a bit more to run and that's something I'm a bit more comfortable with."
 
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181538) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181533) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181531) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181530) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181510) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181499) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181476) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181468) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181451) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181435) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181431) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181430) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181420) said:
Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

Can Tedesco come with a touch of Cronk..

Phenomenal right!
I don’t know if it is worth biting really.
And to think Sezer would do a better job as a ‘game manager’ is laughable.

What our team desperately needs is support for our half. Be it Brooks, be it Walters. We need a firecracker 5/8 that has the ability to get on the edge of his inside defenders push the line every time, neat little grubber in etc.
Basically Benji 10years ago.
To think Brooks is capable of that on his own alongside a game manager is laughable.
Anyway forwards win games. And ours drop the ball whenever we have good field possession.

Sezer was a good enough game manager to help his team to a grand final last year, he was very good. Brooks in my eyes would be a great 5/8

Disagree. He basically plays as a 5/8 at the moment and is being hammered hard for it.
In my opinion, coaches preferring Left Side, Right Side has killed Brooks.
He has no skill of a 5/8. He has all the skill of a traditional halfback.
The only think letting him down is his involvement.
Get a strike 5/8 and get Brooks (or Madden) in the middle of the field playing a traditional HB role.

He doesn’t really play as a 5/8 because he’s got all the pressure of leading the team around and he can’t handle it. Put a game managing half next to him and just let him do what he does best, run the footy, short passing and short kicking. All a matter of opinion though ??

Ok, as I said I disagree. The tigers play Left Side, Right Side and have ever since he an Mitchell Moses were the halves.
If you want to see him shine as a halfback. Go back to the games where we have a forward playing in the 5/8 position, in those games he is forced to do the traditional halfback role.
‘Eg when Marshall played hooker and Matterson played 5/8 last year.’ Even in our final game last year he was the best on the ground.

Oh and this quote from Cartwright and Sezer upon resigning with the Titans...

Titans coach John Cartwright is still yet to publicly declare where Sezer will play this year.

He has the talent and personality to shift to halfback but says he is a natural five-eighth.

"I've been a five-eighth all my life. These days it's pretty much the same job," he said. "Halfbacks have more control over the team but five-eighth opens you up a bit more to run and that's something I'm a bit more comfortable with."

He might prefer 5/8 but he did a damn good job at halfback, he did the organising and Wighton did more of the running.

For me brooks crumbles under the pressure of leading the team around in the big games which the best halfbacks don’t do. Either way brooks needs to up his game he’s been too quiet this year. Who we put in the halves next year is up to Madge that’s how he makes his money ?
 
Bulldogs player clean-out being mentioned now Dean Pay has quit,I would be making offers to Meaney,Elliot,CHN and even Jesse Sue
 
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181552) said:
Bulldogs player clean-out being mentioned now Dean Pay has quit,I would be making offers to Meaney,Elliot,CHN and even Jesse Sue

Extremely glad you are not making the offers then. Lol
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181543) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181538) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181533) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181531) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181530) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181510) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181499) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181476) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181468) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181451) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181435) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181431) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181430) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181420) said:
Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

Can Tedesco come with a touch of Cronk..

Phenomenal right!
I don’t know if it is worth biting really.
And to think Sezer would do a better job as a ‘game manager’ is laughable.

What our team desperately needs is support for our half. Be it Brooks, be it Walters. We need a firecracker 5/8 that has the ability to get on the edge of his inside defenders push the line every time, neat little grubber in etc.
Basically Benji 10years ago.
To think Brooks is capable of that on his own alongside a game manager is laughable.
Anyway forwards win games. And ours drop the ball whenever we have good field possession.

Sezer was a good enough game manager to help his team to a grand final last year, he was very good. Brooks in my eyes would be a great 5/8

Disagree. He basically plays as a 5/8 at the moment and is being hammered hard for it.
In my opinion, coaches preferring Left Side, Right Side has killed Brooks.
He has no skill of a 5/8. He has all the skill of a traditional halfback.
The only think letting him down is his involvement.
Get a strike 5/8 and get Brooks (or Madden) in the middle of the field playing a traditional HB role.

He doesn’t really play as a 5/8 because he’s got all the pressure of leading the team around and he can’t handle it. Put a game managing half next to him and just let him do what he does best, run the footy, short passing and short kicking. All a matter of opinion though ??

Ok, as I said I disagree. The tigers play Left Side, Right Side and have ever since he an Mitchell Moses were the halves.
If you want to see him shine as a halfback. Go back to the games where we have a forward playing in the 5/8 position, in those games he is forced to do the traditional halfback role.
‘Eg when Marshall played hooker and Matterson played 5/8 last year.’ Even in our final game last year he was the best on the ground.

Oh and this quote from Cartwright and Sezer upon resigning with the Titans...

Titans coach John Cartwright is still yet to publicly declare where Sezer will play this year.

He has the talent and personality to shift to halfback but says he is a natural five-eighth.

"I've been a five-eighth all my life. These days it's pretty much the same job," he said. "Halfbacks have more control over the team but five-eighth opens you up a bit more to run and that's something I'm a bit more comfortable with."

He might prefer 5/8 but he did a damn good job at halfback, he did the organising and Wighton did more of the running.

For me brooks crumbles under the pressure of leading the team around in the big games which the best halfbacks don’t do. Either way brooks needs to up his game he’s been too quiet this year. Who we put in the halves next year is up to Madge that’s how he makes his money ?

You could have had Jordan Rankin and Rhys Hanbury in the halves at Canberra last year and they would have shone behind that pack.
 
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181552) said:
Bulldogs player clean-out being mentioned now Dean Pay has quit,I would be making offers to Meaney,Elliot,CHN and even Jesse Sue

The Bulldogs are coming dead last and are one of the worst teams the comp has seen in years but you want to sign half their side? Big no thanks....
 
SIGH!!! Oh what I would give for the days when this thread was filled kamikaze signing leaks and rumours postings.
Ahhh but most of those contributors are now long gone or banned ..... and were now left with the idle “would it be nice if we signed” chatter.
Works for some I guess.
 
@momo_amp_medo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1181562) said:
SIGH!!! Oh what I would give for the days when this thread was filled kamikaze signing leaks and rumours postings.
Ahhh but most of those contributors are now long gone or banned ..... and were now left with the idle “would it be nice if we signed” chatter.
Works for some I guess.

Back to the Tiger Torch days
 
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