Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@tigeress said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209732) said:
@tigeress said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209731) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209728) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209663) said:
This is why we are ninth. Potential rated more highly than an actual marquee player. It beggars belief.

You are misrepresenting the position of supporters who oppose the suggestion that we should give up Talau to get JAC.

You are suggesting that we believe that Talau is a better footballer than JAC, or that he will certainly become a better footballer. I haven't seen anybody suggest that.

The issue is how much should we as a club be expected to give up to get the deal over the line.

I'm happy to pay marquee money to get JAC, but that's it. We shouldn't have to give up a promising junior as well.

We've made enough mistakes with our signings in the past I think we should forget this bloke...all his good years are behind him, and we certainly don't want to give up any of our promising youngsters...stop the rot now😕

Further to the above..if Storm are sniffing around Talau we should keep him if they want him they must think he's pretty good:+1:

They also accepted Momo on a year loan, they must see him as pretty good also.
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209668) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209640) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209636) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209629) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209628) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209625) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209579) said:
would you trade
Tommy for JAC
Nofo for JAC
Brooks for JAC

NO!

I'd think hard about maybe trading Brooks but none of the others. And, I still want Momorovski back.

I'd trade Tommy T or Nofo in a heartbeat for JAC. They can keep Momirovski.

So, Nofo for JAC, they keep Momo and you pay JAC FB money. Talk about sell your soul.

Well I wouldn't have signed Momo anyway. He's not needed. And I think JAC is a far superior player to Nofo.

I don't want to get side-tracked, but in what position do we think Momo will play in next year? He's really a centre, and we likely have BJ and MBye there, with Talau next in line. Where's Momo, second backup?

If it was me, I'd have Momo as centre replacing Mbye and also doing the goal kicking.
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209680) said:
Apparently we were looking at that PNG guy who was with rabbits , Eddie G something but he left aus so we didn't get him

Mentioned about 3 pages ago. South's have released and he has gone back to PNG. South's told no one they were releasing him. May have been the speedy back under contract that Pom was talking about.
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209654) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209644) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209641) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209635) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209633) said:
I would trade nobody.

If we want him to play FB - we will have to pay far too much anyway, let alone adding a top junior.

He would not be worth half that. Rather have Johnston, or maybe Staines, if we are desperate for a FB.

I don't think we are, I think we already have one, so we are only looking for a winger with speed.

JAC does not have anything else to offer. 500k should be more than enough - if not, we do to him what he did to us. See ya!

You said the other day you'd pay $650k for JAC.

If you go back I said and I quote "650k Max."

Not after last night, playing with an ordinary team, and we are an ordinary team.

My figure is now 500k Max. as a winger only.

One game and he’s down $150k yeesh ?

Doesn't pay you to have a bad game Josh.

Unlike others I am not blinded by his speed - because that is all he has.

650k Max. if he was a FB and he is not - so 500k as a winger only.

I with you Russell, but I would be prepared to pay $550k tops as winger only. At the same time or as an alternative, I would be prepared to pay $250k to $275k for Staines as winger / fullback option.
 
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209743) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209668) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209640) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209636) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209629) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209628) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209625) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209579) said:
would you trade
Tommy for JAC
Nofo for JAC
Brooks for JAC

NO!

I'd think hard about maybe trading Brooks but none of the others. And, I still want Momorovski back.

I'd trade Tommy T or Nofo in a heartbeat for JAC. They can keep Momirovski.

So, Nofo for JAC, they keep Momo and you pay JAC FB money. Talk about sell your soul.

Well I wouldn't have signed Momo anyway. He's not needed. And I think JAC is a far superior player to Nofo.

I don't want to get side-tracked, but in what position do we think Momo will play in next year? He's really a centre, and we likely have BJ and MBye there, with Talau next in line. Where's Momo, second backup?

If it was me, I'd have Momo as centre replacing Mbye and also doing the goal kicking.

I'm not sure why everyone thinks he's a good goal kicker.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209748) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209743) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209668) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209640) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209636) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209629) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209628) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209625) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209579) said:
would you trade
Tommy for JAC
Nofo for JAC
Brooks for JAC

NO!

I'd think hard about maybe trading Brooks but none of the others. And, I still want Momorovski back.

I'd trade Tommy T or Nofo in a heartbeat for JAC. They can keep Momirovski.

So, Nofo for JAC, they keep Momo and you pay JAC FB money. Talk about sell your soul.

Well I wouldn't have signed Momo anyway. He's not needed. And I think JAC is a far superior player to Nofo.

I don't want to get side-tracked, but in what position do we think Momo will play in next year? He's really a centre, and we likely have BJ and MBye there, with Talau next in line. Where's Momo, second backup?

If it was me, I'd have Momo as centre replacing Mbye and also doing the goal kicking.

I'm not sure why everyone thinks he's a good goal kicker.

After the bulldogs game he was kicking them pretty well. He’s no 80% kicker but he’d be better than Mbye I think, hopefully Moses keeps his form from last week off the boot tho
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209749) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209748) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209743) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209668) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209640) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209636) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209629) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209628) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209625) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209579) said:
would you trade
Tommy for JAC
Nofo for JAC
Brooks for JAC

NO!

I'd think hard about maybe trading Brooks but none of the others. And, I still want Momorovski back.

I'd trade Tommy T or Nofo in a heartbeat for JAC. They can keep Momirovski.

So, Nofo for JAC, they keep Momo and you pay JAC FB money. Talk about sell your soul.

Well I wouldn't have signed Momo anyway. He's not needed. And I think JAC is a far superior player to Nofo.

I don't want to get side-tracked, but in what position do we think Momo will play in next year? He's really a centre, and we likely have BJ and MBye there, with Talau next in line. Where's Momo, second backup?

If it was me, I'd have Momo as centre replacing Mbye and also doing the goal kicking.

I'm not sure why everyone thinks he's a good goal kicker.

After the bulldogs game he was kicking them pretty well. He’s no 80% kicker but he’d be better than Mbye I think, hopefully Moses keeps his form from last week off the boot tho

Last year including ISP he was 68%. He's not a good enough kicker for first grade, nor is Mbye. Should be a priority for next year.
 
@2005magic

If it was me, I'd have Momo as centre replacing Mbye and also doing the goal kicking.

Im inclined to agree Mbye is no better than Momo either in general play or goal kicking, if we compare what the two are paid im not sure of the exact figures but the gap would be vast. So Momo is far better value than Mbye but the issue is how do you get rid of a white elephant like Mbye?
 
interesting brandon smith surgery fir broken haw perhaps if storm want grant this year then we can negotiate a good trade deal for JAC for next year.
maybe we give them grant this year
they take a trade next year JAC for Mommo and Hoffman or something
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209772) said:
interesting brandon smith surgery fir broken haw perhaps if storm want grant this year then we can negotiate a good trade deal for JAC for next year.
maybe we give them grant this year
they take a trade next year JAC for Mommo and Hoffman or something

Pretty sure under the NRL guidelines players cannot swap teams after the deadline that has passed. It is different if you sign a player not on a contract for the season. Example was if TPJ got release / sacked not team could sign him until next year.

Good Idea though
 
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209728) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209663) said:
This is why we are ninth. Potential rated more highly than an actual marquee player. It beggars belief.

You are misrepresenting the position of supporters who oppose the suggestion that we should give up Talau to get JAC.

You are suggesting that we believe that Talau is a better footballer than JAC, or that he will certainly become a better footballer. I haven't seen anybody suggest that.

The issue is how much should we as a club be expected to give up to get the deal over the line.

I'm happy to pay marquee money to get JAC, but that's it. We shouldn't have to give up a promising junior as well.

Also ignored: relative value of contract. You don't have to believe Talau is better than JAC to believ Talau on $200k is a better option than JAC on $700k.
 
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209781) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209728) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209663) said:
This is why we are ninth. Potential rated more highly than an actual marquee player. It beggars belief.

You are misrepresenting the position of supporters who oppose the suggestion that we should give up Talau to get JAC.

You are suggesting that we believe that Talau is a better footballer than JAC, or that he will certainly become a better footballer. I haven't seen anybody suggest that.

The issue is how much should we as a club be expected to give up to get the deal over the line.

I'm happy to pay marquee money to get JAC, but that's it. We shouldn't have to give up a promising junior as well.

Also ignored: relative value of contract. You don't have to believe Talau is better than JAC to believ Talau on $200k is a better option than JAC on $700k.

Yep, and to me that is the most important point.
 
Hope reports today that Super League is after Josh Reynolds is true. I think we are stuck with Mbye but could be a great Number 14. So appears Bunty, JAC and maybe Staines are 2021 inclusions. Like very much. Funny to read Cowboys are shopping our former Muppet Esan Masters. What a lazy player he is. I don't think he would have many takers unless Bellamy can turn his career around.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209688) said:
i woukd trade Nofo for JAC - we can use a hoffman or somerhing or Mommo. Nofo will be pushing in next contract for a price upgrade so woukd we keep him then
I would trade Talau for JAC - Mommo can take the spot, yes we lose potential but our last 9 years have been full of potential
i would trade Brooks for JAC - however be happy to play Madden at 7 or go with a Mmbye 7 and AD 6
JAC represents more than just a fullback or a winger he represents a current international and shows the nrl we are a good destination for rep players.

You really don't like Nofo do you? We honestly are not even close to the team we are this season without him and that's including his defense deficiencies. Trading Brooks for a winger who has never played a game at fullback is ludicrous. Don't believe we actually need to trade anyone JAC is the one wanting to come to Sydney. If anyone was to be traded its Momo or Talau only...anyone else is terrible cap management.

Edit: The idea should be we are strengthening that left wing spot. Don't weaken a successful right hand winger just to replace him with another successful one. We need to be aiming for JAC one wing and Nofo the other - attacking options and speed both sides of the field.
 
@tonza said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209747) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209654) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209644) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209641) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209635) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209633) said:
I would trade nobody.

If we want him to play FB - we will have to pay far too much anyway, let alone adding a top junior.

He would not be worth half that. Rather have Johnston, or maybe Staines, if we are desperate for a FB.

I don't think we are, I think we already have one, so we are only looking for a winger with speed.

JAC does not have anything else to offer. 500k should be more than enough - if not, we do to him what he did to us. See ya!

You said the other day you'd pay $650k for JAC.

If you go back I said and I quote "650k Max."

Not after last night, playing with an ordinary team, and we are an ordinary team.

My figure is now 500k Max. as a winger only.

One game and he’s down $150k yeesh ?

Doesn't pay you to have a bad game Josh.

Unlike others I am not blinded by his speed - because that is all he has.

650k Max. if he was a FB and he is not - so 500k as a winger only.

I with you Russell, but I would be prepared to pay $550k tops as winger only. At the same time or as an alternative, I would be prepared to pay $250k to $275k for Staines as winger / fullback option.

Staines could be good for us - wants 350k at least - a lot cheaper and younger than JAC. and has played FB.
 
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209781) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209728) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209663) said:
This is why we are ninth. Potential rated more highly than an actual marquee player. It beggars belief.

You are misrepresenting the position of supporters who oppose the suggestion that we should give up Talau to get JAC.

You are suggesting that we believe that Talau is a better footballer than JAC, or that he will certainly become a better footballer. I haven't seen anybody suggest that.

The issue is how much should we as a club be expected to give up to get the deal over the line.

I'm happy to pay marquee money to get JAC, but that's it. We shouldn't have to give up a promising junior as well.

Also ignored: relative value of contract. You don't have to believe Talau is better than JAC to believ Talau on $200k is a better option than JAC on $700k.


Well usually when you go shopping for..say a house? You can see the value.
If both players were on say $400k, and vying for the same position, then I would chose Tommy.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209772) said:
interesting brandon smith surgery fir broken haw perhaps if storm want grant this year then we can negotiate a good trade deal for JAC for next year.
maybe we give them grant this year
they take a trade next year JAC for Mommo and Hoffman or something

We can't give them Grant - he is signed to us.

NRL will not allow it.
 

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