Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247050) said:
It will be interesting what we do from here:

2021

**Option A:** give up on recruiting for a while...cop some heat...and just sit it out in the event of other teams need to clear room come Jan / Feb. Risky if no one becomes available / risky also if you end up with guys like DWZ. Best available player rather than what you really need.

**Option B:** Take on some big names who are openly being offloaded: Lodge, Bird, Moylan etc. Probably could make 7-8th IF they all had good years / injury free. Massive trouble if they did not.

**OptionC:** Aim at 2022. Build slowly...it will mean finishing 10-14th etc in 2021 and copping a year of bad media / fan's frustration...Madge and co will be hammered...but can position ourselves with young players 'and' cap space by 2022.

Personally, I feel like C is the best option. I can't imagine Madge letting 2021 go though...

C for me... we are already doing that due to no money in the cap and if we snag a top line player for 2022 that club might offer a early release to buy someone else and take pressure off there cap.
 
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247078) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247076) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Players wanting to play for the coach is not our problem. Players on long contracts we are paying overs for is. Until this Cap debacle is sorted it won’t matter who the coach is, we will be limited on who we can sign.

Disregarding the cleary contracts bro. Players wanting to come to the tigers is a problem for whatever reasons. I think Bennett will fix this.

The Cleary contracts are the problem. Bennett won’t be able to fix that.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247083) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247078) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247076) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Players wanting to play for the coach is not our problem. Players on long contracts we are paying overs for is. Until this Cap debacle is sorted it won’t matter who the coach is, we will be limited on who we can sign.

Disregarding the cleary contracts bro. Players wanting to come to the tigers is a problem for whatever reasons. I think Bennett will fix this.

Would fix it, but I'd almost bet my life he won't ever be a coach here.

I agree, he would not join WT for the same reason as Bellamy. :moneybag: :moneybag: :moneybag:
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247083) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247078) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247076) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Players wanting to play for the coach is not our problem. Players on long contracts we are paying overs for is. Until this Cap debacle is sorted it won’t matter who the coach is, we will be limited on who we can sign.

Disregarding the cleary contracts bro. Players wanting to come to the tigers is a problem for whatever reasons. I think Bennett will fix this.

Would fix it, but I'd almost bet my life he won't ever be a coach here.

Yeah me too. I have no problem w Madge tho
 
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247087) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247078) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247076) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Players wanting to play for the coach is not our problem. Players on long contracts we are paying overs for is. Until this Cap debacle is sorted it won’t matter who the coach is, we will be limited on who we can sign.

Disregarding the cleary contracts bro. Players wanting to come to the tigers is a problem for whatever reasons. I think Bennett will fix this.

The Cleary contracts are the problem. Bennett won’t be able to fix that.

Bennett is off contract at the same time we have money.
 
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247094) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247087) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247078) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247076) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Players wanting to play for the coach is not our problem. Players on long contracts we are paying overs for is. Until this Cap debacle is sorted it won’t matter who the coach is, we will be limited on who we can sign.

Disregarding the cleary contracts bro. Players wanting to come to the tigers is a problem for whatever reasons. I think Bennett will fix this.

The Cleary contracts are the problem. Bennett won’t be able to fix that.

Bennett is off contract at the same time we have money.

Doesn’t matter when he’s off contract. It’s not like he comes under the salary cap.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247050) said:
It will be interesting what we do from here:

2021

**Option A:** give up on recruiting for a while...cop some heat...and just sit it out in the event of other teams need to clear room come Jan / Feb. Risky if no one becomes available / risky also if you end up with guys like DWZ. Best available player rather than what you really need.

**Option B:** Take on some big names who are openly being offloaded: Lodge, Bird, Moylan etc. Probably could make 7-8th IF they all had good years / injury free. Massive trouble if they did not.

**OptionC:** Aim at 2022. Build slowly...it will mean finishing 10-14th etc in 2021 and copping a year of bad media / fan's frustration...Madge and co will be hammered...but can position ourselves with young players 'and' cap space by 2022.

Personally, I feel like C is the best option. I can't imagine Madge letting 2021 go though...

If you go with option C and i agree its probably the best we should have already been testing the waters and redy to offer a contract on Nov 1. Hopefully that is whats happening
 
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

I'm not sure whether Robinson can take too much credit for the last few good years the Rorters have had. Unlimited salary cap would be more to the point IMO. The year they had a few injuries ('16 or '17) they finished 2nd last.
A quality, stacked roster is more important to success than a coach.
 
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247094) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247087) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247078) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247076) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Players wanting to play for the coach is not our problem. Players on long contracts we are paying overs for is. Until this Cap debacle is sorted it won’t matter who the coach is, we will be limited on who we can sign.

Disregarding the cleary contracts bro. Players wanting to come to the tigers is a problem for whatever reasons. I think Bennett will fix this.

The Cleary contracts are the problem. Bennett won’t be able to fix that.

Bennett is off contract at the same time we have money.

OK. But changing coaching direction again just seems to be all we do. We go around in circles in a continuous re-build phase and never break out of it. With the exception of Sheens that’s all we have done since inception. How about we stick it out with the one coach for a while and let him build his team.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247050) said:
It will be interesting what we do from here:

2021

**Option A:** give up on recruiting for a while...cop some heat...and just sit it out in the event of other teams need to clear room come Jan / Feb. Risky if no one becomes available / risky also if you end up with guys like DWZ. Best available player rather than what you really need.

**Option B:** Take on some big names who are openly being offloaded: Lodge, Bird, Moylan etc. Probably could make 7-8th IF they all had good years / injury free. Massive trouble if they did not.

**OptionC:** Aim at 2022. Build slowly...it will mean finishing 10-14th etc in 2021 and copping a year of bad media / fan's frustration...Madge and co will be hammered...but can position ourselves with young players 'and' cap space by 2022.

Personally, I feel like C is the best option. I can't imagine Madge letting 2021 go though...

Yep, just tread water for next year (while hopefully improving our culture and our defence) then go hell for leather in '22.
Would take a risk on Lodge for 1 year, maybe 2.
Xavier Coates might be worth a look to, he is off-contract this year or next.
 
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247078) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247076) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Players wanting to play for the coach is not our problem. Players on long contracts we are paying overs for is. Until this Cap debacle is sorted it won’t matter who the coach is, we will be limited on who we can sign.

Disregarding the cleary contracts bro. Players wanting to come to the tigers is a problem for whatever reasons. I think Bennett will fix this.

It’s always been a problem, but I’ve got a feeling it’s now because of Madge’s hard nosed coaching
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247095) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247094) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247087) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247078) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247076) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Players wanting to play for the coach is not our problem. Players on long contracts we are paying overs for is. Until this Cap debacle is sorted it won’t matter who the coach is, we will be limited on who we can sign.

Disregarding the cleary contracts bro. Players wanting to come to the tigers is a problem for whatever reasons. I think Bennett will fix this.

The Cleary contracts are the problem. Bennett won’t be able to fix that.

Bennett is off contract at the same time we have money.

Doesn’t matter when he’s off contract. It’s not like he comes under the salary cap.

My answer was referring to the cleary contacts bro.
Bennett would come into our club with a free reign
 
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247098) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247094) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247087) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247078) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247076) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Players wanting to play for the coach is not our problem. Players on long contracts we are paying overs for is. Until this Cap debacle is sorted it won’t matter who the coach is, we will be limited on who we can sign.

Disregarding the cleary contracts bro. Players wanting to come to the tigers is a problem for whatever reasons. I think Bennett will fix this.

The Cleary contracts are the problem. Bennett won’t be able to fix that.

Bennett is off contract at the same time we have money.

OK. But changing coaching direction again just seems to be all we do. We go around in circles in a continuous re-build phase and never break out of it. With the exception of Sheens that’s all we have done since inception. How about we stick it out with the one coach for a while and let him build his team.

Yeah I do understand and I'm on the same page.
Just thinking of making an exception for Bennett. The good ones don't come around that often
 
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Bennett these days is just the front man for the media, the recruitment magnet and a father figure. His assistants do the coaching
 
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247110) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247098) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247094) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247087) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247078) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247076) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

Players wanting to play for the coach is not our problem. Players on long contracts we are paying overs for is. Until this Cap debacle is sorted it won’t matter who the coach is, we will be limited on who we can sign.

Disregarding the cleary contracts bro. Players wanting to come to the tigers is a problem for whatever reasons. I think Bennett will fix this.

The Cleary contracts are the problem. Bennett won’t be able to fix that.

Bennett is off contract at the same time we have money.

OK. But changing coaching direction again just seems to be all we do. We go around in circles in a continuous re-build phase and never break out of it. With the exception of Sheens that’s all we have done since inception. How about we stick it out with the one coach for a while and let him build his team.

Yeah I do understand and I'm on the same page.
Just thinking of making an exception for Bennett. The good ones don't come around that often

Knights did that and Bennett's reign almost ended up with them folding....terrible results on the field with his decisions and Tinkler running the club into the ground off the field
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247097) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

I'm not sure whether Robinson can take too much credit for the last few good years the Rorters have had. Unlimited salary cap would be more to the point IMO. The year they had a few injuries ('16 or '17) they finished 2nd last.
A quality, stacked roster is more important to success than a coach.

Disagree I think Robinson is a great coach and seldom gets the credit he is due. Sure he has a star studded roster and a massive budget but he can coach and sometimes it is not as easy gig coaching a team full of over paid egos
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247097) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247071) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247039) said:
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247038) said:
Much as I rate Madge, be silly not to have a crack at Bennett. Amazing coach. Wouldn't have to be worried about the inevitable rebuild after we win the premiership, we seem to be doing that every year anyway?

No thanks. This is not the time to be even thinking about changing coaches. Talk about insanity. What we need is stability and support for Madge.

How many coaches did roosters have before they got it right?
Players want to play for Bennett. I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he can coach

I'm not sure whether Robinson can take too much credit for the last few good years the Rorters have had. Unlimited salary cap would be more to the point IMO. The year they had a few injuries ('16 or '17) they finished 2nd last.
A quality, stacked roster is more important to success than a coach.

Kind of agree, I reckon I could have coached the rorters to win the last two. Same as Magic Mal and the Qld team. My gran could’ve coached that team to win.....
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247042) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1246917) said:
Unless they are holidaying in regional Turkmenistan

Right but have you ever been to regional Turkmenistan? So beautiful this time of year and very easy to socially distance.

I'd love to see the singing book in the middle of Ashgabat that opens daily and recites sections from the book that their first president wrote (who was a failed engineer,) and considered that it should be as revered as the Qur'an.
 

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