Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278289) said:
AD is our 6 , Mbye is the backup . Especially if we get Laurie . We will have Gebbie as the back up fullback with All the other backs mentioned previously . We have an experienced backup half , his name is Moses Mbye

he won't hang around if we get Laurie a year early. there's nowhere for him to score a spot unless it's at 14 or if he fights Laurie or Doueihi for a spot in the spine, which on current form he may struggle to do.
 
We’ve got Doueihi, Walters, Talau, Mbye and madden who can all fill in the halves. We don’t need to waste another roster spot on another half I think. We need another second rower and winger more
 
I hope it works Strongee,but if it doe not i think our new recruitment staff are heading the way of -- move them on!
 
The key here is going to be the club not rushing out with a fist full of 50s to sign anyone....due diligence from now on please. This offseason has sparked something not often seen on our forum....optimism
 
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278295) said:
We’ve got Doueihi, Walters, Talau, Mbye and madden who can all fill in the halves. We don’t need to waste another roster spot on another half I think. We need another second rower and winger more

As Cochise said, if Laurie isn’t here Mbye is fullback. Walters won’t be ready for some time (and even then I question whether he’s good enough) and Talau and Madden have never played the position in first grade. We definitely need a more capable back up at 6 IMO.
 
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278295) said:
We’ve got Doueihi, Walters, Talau, Mbye and madden who can all fill in the halves. We don’t need to waste another roster spot on another half I think. We need another second rower and winger more

Without Laurie Mbye will be fullback and that leaves us starting the season with half a game experience at 5/8th across all our options.

We need another option at fullback or 5/8th, so we either get Laurie or we need another option between those positions.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278285) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278275) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278266) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278265) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278262) said:
I think we need to pick up a 5/8th with some experience before the start of the season.

Didn't we just release one? If we needed that, why did we release him.

One not on $800k would be good.

There is a certain experienced 5/8 who won a grand final with WT looking for 300k.

I don't think we need one though, I think AD could do the job.

Key word is could, what do we do if that changes to can't?

Madden, Walters, and Talau are all options if he suddenly can't play or gets injured.

I wouldn't panic. I don't think we need to fix it until it's broken.
 
My wish list over the next 12mths or so would be these players outside of WT system that are coming of contract.

Cameron Munster
Angus Crichton
Jordan Riki
Sitili Tupouniua
Toby Rudolf
Tuki Simpkins
Stephen Crichton
Xavier Coates
Kotoni Staggs

I’d be more than happy if we managed to snag at least 2 of these with the money that’s going to be available.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278298) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278295) said:
We’ve got Doueihi, Walters, Talau, Mbye and madden who can all fill in the halves. We don’t need to waste another roster spot on another half I think. We need another second rower and winger more

As Cochise said, if Laurie isn’t here Mbye is fullback. Walters won’t be ready for some time (and even then I question whether he’s good enough) and Talau and Madden have never played the position in first grade. We definitely need a more capable back up at 6 IMO.

What about that young tanous kid. Isn’t he 18.
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278300) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278285) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278275) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278266) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278265) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278262) said:
I think we need to pick up a 5/8th with some experience before the start of the season.

Didn't we just release one? If we needed that, why did we release him.

One not on $800k would be good.

There is a certain experienced 5/8 who won a grand final with WT looking for 300k.

I don't think we need one though, I think AD could do the job.

Key word is could, what do we do if that changes to can't?

Madden, Walters, and Talau are all options if he suddenly can't play or gets injured.

I wouldn't panic. I don't think we need to fix it until it's broken.

Walters is out till June? Madden and Talau have never played 5/8th in firsts, Doueihi hasn't proven himself as a 5/8th yet either.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278299) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278295) said:
We’ve got Doueihi, Walters, Talau, Mbye and madden who can all fill in the halves. We don’t need to waste another roster spot on another half I think. We need another second rower and winger more

Without Laurie Mbye will be fullback and that leaves us starting the season with half a game experience at 5/8th across all our options.

We need another option at fullback or 5/8th, so we either get Laurie or we need another option between those positions.

It’s not about experience it’s about balancing your roster. You don’t need that many halves. AD can easily shift to fullback and someone else can play in the halves. Plenty of options there - and I don’t see any decent halves coming over just to be backup. Youth is the way to go
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278300) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278285) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278275) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278266) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278265) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278262) said:
I think we need to pick up a 5/8th with some experience before the start of the season.

Didn't we just release one? If we needed that, why did we release him.

One not on $800k would be good.

There is a certain experienced 5/8 who won a grand final with WT looking for 300k.

I don't think we need one though, I think AD could do the job.

Key word is could, what do we do if that changes to can't?

Madden, Walters, and Talau are all options if he suddenly can't play or gets injured.

I wouldn't panic. I don't think we need to fix it until it's broken.

That's why we didn't let Talau go to Melbourne or whatever.
 
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278304) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278299) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278295) said:
We’ve got Doueihi, Walters, Talau, Mbye and madden who can all fill in the halves. We don’t need to waste another roster spot on another half I think. We need another second rower and winger more

Without Laurie Mbye will be fullback and that leaves us starting the season with half a game experience at 5/8th across all our options.

We need another option at fullback or 5/8th, so we either get Laurie or we need another option between those positions.

It’s not about experience it’s about balancing your roster. You don’t need that many halves. AD can easily shift to fullback and someone else can play in the halves. Plenty of options there - and I don’t see any decent halves coming over just to be backup. Youth is the way to go

We aren't balanced at 5/8th though, we actually are starting the season with no one proven in that spot.
 
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278295) said:
We’ve got Doueihi, Walters, Talau, Mbye and madden who can all fill in the halves. We don’t need to waste another roster spot on another half I think. We need another second rower and winger more

Probably, but the scenario we were looking at was:
AD is injured for a month early in the season?
Walters is already out.
Laurie isn’t coming?

That would leave us with Mbye can cover both?
Madden probably but hasn’t played FG and hasn’t played for over a year.
Talau probably.

Just hope no one else gets injured in the meantime 😃

We have the cash, may as well get it covered, imo.
 
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278304) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278299) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278295) said:
We’ve got Doueihi, Walters, Talau, Mbye and madden who can all fill in the halves. We don’t need to waste another roster spot on another half I think. We need another second rower and winger more

Without Laurie Mbye will be fullback and that leaves us starting the season with half a game experience at 5/8th across all our options.

We need another option at fullback or 5/8th, so we either get Laurie or we need another option between those positions.

It’s not about experience it’s about balancing your roster. You don’t need that many halves. AD can easily shift to fullback and someone else can play in the halves. Plenty of options there - and I don’t see any decent halves coming over just to be backup. Youth is the way to go

Doesn't have to be someone with experience but someone that is a genuine 5/8th is needed in my opinion.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278306) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278304) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278299) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278295) said:
We’ve got Doueihi, Walters, Talau, Mbye and madden who can all fill in the halves. We don’t need to waste another roster spot on another half I think. We need another second rower and winger more

Without Laurie Mbye will be fullback and that leaves us starting the season with half a game experience at 5/8th across all our options.

We need another option at fullback or 5/8th, so we either get Laurie or we need another option between those positions.

It’s not about experience it’s about balancing your roster. You don’t need that many halves. AD can easily shift to fullback and someone else can play in the halves. Plenty of options there - and I don’t see any decent halves coming over just to be backup. Youth is the way to go

We aren't balanced at 5/8th though, we actually are starting the season with no one proven in that spot.

Our halves play virtually the same no matter if they’re wearing 6 or 7. Brooks could shift back to 6 or just stay at 7, our backup halves are all more suited to playing 6 anyway I think.
 
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278281) said:
Hey Blake, its like an old song ,They go together like a horse and carriage - you can;t have on without the other.Good teams need a good 1/2, for a half to perform he needs a good team.

I think there are roles that need to be filled, someone in the middle to choose where and when to attack, ie give it to a forward or spread it wide to the left or right, to decide when to kick early. Attacking and defensive kicking, support breaks in the middle of the field, act as a ballplayer on the left and right.

There are a lot of options on how this can be done, the Storm have shown that a hooker can control the attack in the middle and have the halves play our wider, when they had Cronk he controlled the attack in the middle. Roosters and Manly often use their Lock to do the same job.

There are many options, the coach has to find a way to cover the roles and use the players he has to get the most out of them. We need someone to be the controller in the middle in attack, Brooks looked good when he was doing it but Madge changed the structure many times last year and the players need time to get used to any structure.
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278310) said:
I hate to bring up 2005, but we didn't have an established 5/8 in the pre-season then either.

Had a genuine 5/8th who debuted 18 months prior.
 
@TigerWest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278307) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1278295) said:
We’ve got Doueihi, Walters, Talau, Mbye and madden who can all fill in the halves. We don’t need to waste another roster spot on another half I think. We need another second rower and winger more

Probably, but the scenario we were looking at was:
AD is injured for a month early in the season?
Walters is already out.
Laurie isn’t coming?

That would leave us with Mbye can cover both?
Madden probably but hasn’t played FG and hasn’t played for over a year.
Talau probably.

Just hope no one else gets injured in the meantime ?

We have the cash, may as well get it covered, imo.

Walters could be back for round 1. 6-9 months recovery and did it about 7 months before round 1. Wasn’t even wearing a brace in pictures I saw of him.
 

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