Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[the_third]

if the naysayers are watching this WE NEED REYNOLDS

Naysayers ? That’s an interesting way to look at it . I saw a guy get to his kicks , and shift early to benji and Lattrell .
I didn’t see anything worth 1 mil a year . Which is what it would cost .

Would it? $1.4 mill over 2 years is the current offer.

He'd be worth that.

What do we do with brooks ? Offload to the boys ? Also what do we do in 2024 ? Is madden gonna wait ? Is there a junior coming through ? Not saying I hate it . Just there’s a lot to sort out , the future 3 years from now the most important . Plus you all know I’m pro brooks .

The question is not what do we do with Brooks but what does Brooks do for us
Likely answer : More of the same
We need to be looking for better
Wether that's 2,3 years or 4 years it doesn't matter
I like Brooks loyalty but it has not helped us
2 years from a quality player like Reynolds is better than 4 more years of Brooks
Aren't we all sick of waiting
I'll be in a retirement home soon
Brooks really needs to show more over the next 6 weeks
If he can't then we must go hard for Reynolds

Unfortunately after last night's performance I think souths will have to re sign Reynolds or the supporters will march just like they did to get back in to the league

Did I just see Reynolds going down to Rusty's farm

Look at the players we have lost and their calibre to understand the issue. But it is easier to blame Brooks.

It's hard to blame anyone else for Brooks performances except himself?

Exactly, we hear this all the time, MBye over paid and useless, Packer lazy reserve grader, AJ dud signing, BJ fat and lazy, Tommy Talau disappointing send him packing, MCK nuffie, Twal, Plodder, Tamau retiring on us, Joffa not we need, but Brooks, it’s not his fault, give me a break. Why does he get a free pass when everyone else needs to be moved or held to account

I get why people want him to do well, but come on enough already. It was Farahs fault, no it was be benjis fault , its the coach, it’s the forwards, now it’s the backs. He has come out and said it’s his team. He’s the main man. If he can’t deliver time to cut our losses.

You are ranting and not making any valid arguments.

I thought I made heaps of valid points. Brooks didn’t do well because

1. Farah stifled him and service was too slow
2. Benji was the dominant half and Brooks was too shy

He’s been through 3 coaches and no finals with any.
Best forward pack we have had in years.

My main point is no more excuses. He is our guy. , he is the man in control. Step up Brooks and seize your opportunity or it’s time to move on. I watched the game with 10 blokes who go for 3 different teams and not one of them would have Brooks in their team.

Mitchell Pearce played 10 years at the Roosters and most of that time was NSW's half. Roosters punted him for Cronk and won two GF's in a row. That's the difference a champion half makes. Reynolds is next level to Brooks.

This x 100

If that argument is supposed to support Reynolds it's an odd analogy considering that after 10 years at South's they are prepared to let Reynolds go - like the Roosters did with Pearce! Just sayin.

You don't get it, do you?

Yeah I get it you have Brooks at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to half backs.
I guess we will never know what impact Cronk would have had in a team with no rep players like Brooks has, because he never played in one
As for the other two both served their clubs well and played a role in securing premierships with great players around
them.


You saw how well Benji played last night outside Reynolds. He looked like a rep player. We haven’t seen that since 2011. Go back through, let’s say, the last ten premiers. The common thread is Cronk, Maloney, Munster, Thurston, Keary, dominant halves who know how to play football. You can interchange players around them but as long as one of those players is in the team you’re going to win more than you lose.

See I think Benji played just as well with us on numerous occasions last year too, along with the errors he has in his game that are still there, but were intolerable for some. Our problem wasn't scoring last year it was defending and playing for 80mins.
I agree with you that a great half back is an assest to any team who wants success,il especially the ones you have named, but can't think of one successful team that didn't have a whole lot of quality players around their halfback to make that success possible. At the same time I'm not making excuses for Brooks deficiencies as a player - just don't think he is soley responsible for the position we are in - ( and or our recruitment choices ) - and we will need more players to significantly improve, and add a few to break the cycle of underachieving - with or without Brooks.
A big day for him tomorrow...and no doubt the the focus will be well and truly on him.

Yep, fingers crossed for tomorrow. Let's hope with a few "easier" games the next few rounds we get a chance to gel and get some combinations going.

I don't reckon souths next week is gonna be too easy. I'm expecting a knock down, drag out fight. Team will be fired up to go toe to toe with benji.

we will get flogged by souths by 30 at least I reckon

South will put 50 on us.

100

in the first half

 

[mike]

if the naysayers are watching this WE NEED REYNOLDS

Naysayers ? That’s an interesting way to look at it . I saw a guy get to his kicks , and shift early to benji and Lattrell .
I didn’t see anything worth 1 mil a year . Which is what it would cost .

Would it? $1.4 mill over 2 years is the current offer.

He'd be worth that.

What do we do with brooks ? Offload to the boys ? Also what do we do in 2024 ? Is madden gonna wait ? Is there a junior coming through ? Not saying I hate it . Just there’s a lot to sort out , the future 3 years from now the most important . Plus you all know I’m pro brooks .

The question is not what do we do with Brooks but what does Brooks do for us
Likely answer : More of the same
We need to be looking for better
Wether that's 2,3 years or 4 years it doesn't matter
I like Brooks loyalty but it has not helped us
2 years from a quality player like Reynolds is better than 4 more years of Brooks
Aren't we all sick of waiting
I'll be in a retirement home soon
Brooks really needs to show more over the next 6 weeks
If he can't then we must go hard for Reynolds

Unfortunately after last night's performance I think souths will have to re sign Reynolds or the supporters will march just like they did to get back in to the league

Did I just see Reynolds going down to Rusty's farm

Look at the players we have lost and their calibre to understand the issue. But it is easier to blame Brooks.

It's hard to blame anyone else for Brooks performances except himself?

Exactly, we hear this all the time, MBye over paid and useless, Packer lazy reserve grader, AJ dud signing, BJ fat and lazy, Tommy Talau disappointing send him packing, MCK nuffie, Twal, Plodder, Tamau retiring on us, Joffa not we need, but Brooks, it’s not his fault, give me a break. Why does he get a free pass when everyone else needs to be moved or held to account

I get why people want him to do well, but come on enough already. It was Farahs fault, no it was be benjis fault , its the coach, it’s the forwards, now it’s the backs. He has come out and said it’s his team. He’s the main man. If he can’t deliver time to cut our losses.

You are ranting and not making any valid arguments.

I thought I made heaps of valid points. Brooks didn’t do well because

1. Farah stifled him and service was too slow
2. Benji was the dominant half and Brooks was too shy

He’s been through 3 coaches and no finals with any.
Best forward pack we have had in years.

My main point is no more excuses. He is our guy. , he is the man in control. Step up Brooks and seize your opportunity or it’s time to move on. I watched the game with 10 blokes who go for 3 different teams and not one of them would have Brooks in their team.

Mitchell Pearce played 10 years at the Roosters and most of that time was NSW's half. Roosters punted him for Cronk and won two GF's in a row. That's the difference a champion half makes. Reynolds is next level to Brooks.

This x 100

If that argument is supposed to support Reynolds it's an odd analogy considering that after 10 years at South's they are prepared to let Reynolds go - like the Roosters did with Pearce! Just sayin.

You don't get it, do you?

Yeah I get it you have Brooks at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to half backs.
I guess we will never know what impact Cronk would have had in a team with no rep players like Brooks has, because he never played in one
As for the other two both served their clubs well and played a role in securing premierships with great players around
them.


You saw how well Benji played last night outside Reynolds. He looked like a rep player. We haven’t seen that since 2011. Go back through, let’s say, the last ten premiers. The common thread is Cronk, Maloney, Munster, Thurston, Keary, dominant halves who know how to play football. You can interchange players around them but as long as one of those players is in the team you’re going to win more than you lose.

See I think Benji played just as well with us on numerous occasions last year too, along with the errors he has in his game that are still there, but were intolerable for some. Our problem wasn't scoring last year it was defending and playing for 80mins.
I agree with you that a great half back is an assest to any team who wants success,il especially the ones you have named, but can't think of one successful team that didn't have a whole lot of quality players around their halfback to make that success possible. At the same time I'm not making excuses for Brooks deficiencies as a player - just don't think he is soley responsible for the position we are in - ( and or our recruitment choices ) - and we will need more players to significantly improve, and add a few to break the cycle of underachieving - with or without Brooks.
A big day for him tomorrow...and no doubt the the focus will be well and truly on him.

Yep, fingers crossed for tomorrow. Let's hope with a few "easier" games the next few rounds we get a chance to gel and get some combinations going.

I don't reckon souths next week is gonna be too easy. I'm expecting a knock down, drag out fight. Team will be fired up to go toe to toe with benji.

we will get flogged by souths by 30 at least I reckon

South will put 50 on us.

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in the first half

Hahahahaha. The Wests Tigers are just as likely to come out and have a blinder this week.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

The Wests Tigers keep telling us garbage performances aren’t representative of who the club is or what it stands for.

After the insipid and soulless opening 40 minutes at Leichhardt Oval on Sunday afternoon, it’s difficult to comprehend what that actually means.

It sounds like empty corporate drivel. Little more than public relations spin.

The club needs to cut its losses on local junior Luke Brooks and make the recruitment of South Sydney halfback Adam Reynolds an immediate priority.

It’s not the little no.7’s fault it hasn’t worked out at the Wests Tigers but it’s got to the stage where both player and club look in need of a change.

Brooks has been the Tigers great playmaking hope for the past seven full seasons but after 153 NRL games without a finals appearance it’s time to move on.

It’s a sensitive issue because he’s a local junior who was a Tigers diehard growing up.

The club sat down with him as recently as last month to assure Brooks they wanted him to be the halfback who steers them into the finals.

Alternatively, trying to re-invent his career in North Queensland under his one-time under 20s coach Todd Payten appears the best option.

If ever there was a day the Wests Tigers needed to hold their hands up and show some backbone, it was on Sunday.

A sunny afternoon at Leichhardt where they were farewelling the uncompromising, champion Western Suburbs halfback Tommy Raudonikis.

The club even went to the extent of retiring the no.7 jumper as a mark of respect for the Magpies champion.

What they dished up was sadly what we’ve come to expect from an organisation mired in mediocrity.

Wests Tigers club legend Benji Marshall was talking on Triple M on Sunday where he outlined how Leichhardt Oval on a Sunday afternoon was his favourite venue to play.

Gorden Tallis chimed in and recalled how even when the Brisbane Broncos were an NRL flagship they hated playing at Leichhardt and found it hard to win.

It used to be a graveyard. These days the players are getting booed off at halftime.

Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday.

 

[tiger_one]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

"Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday."

Hate to ever agree with Hoops, but, just sayin'............

 

[gallagher]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

"Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday."

Hate to ever agree with Hoops, but, just sayin'............

He got the club bit wrong. We're a franchise.

 

[sleeve]

The club needs to offer Cameron Ciraldo whatever he wants as an assistant. I don't care if it's more than Madge. Defence wins games.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

"Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday."

Hate to ever agree with Hoops, but, just sayin'............

He got the club bit wrong. We're a franchise.

Lee referred to us last year as a 'glamour club'

 

[gallagher]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

"Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday."

Hate to ever agree with Hoops, but, just sayin'............

He got the club bit wrong. We're a franchise.

Lee referred to us last year as a 'glamour club'

Yeah, A glamorous tarted up [This word has been automatically removed].

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

The Wests Tigers keep telling us garbage performances aren’t representative of who the club is or what it stands for.

After the insipid and soulless opening 40 minutes at Leichhardt Oval on Sunday afternoon, it’s difficult to comprehend what that actually means.

It sounds like empty corporate drivel. Little more than public relations spin.

The club needs to cut its losses on local junior Luke Brooks and make the recruitment of South Sydney halfback Adam Reynolds an immediate priority.

It’s not the little no.7’s fault it hasn’t worked out at the Wests Tigers but it’s got to the stage where both player and club look in need of a change.

Brooks has been the Tigers great playmaking hope for the past seven full seasons but after 153 NRL games without a finals appearance it’s time to move on.

It’s a sensitive issue because he’s a local junior who was a Tigers diehard growing up.

The club sat down with him as recently as last month to assure Brooks they wanted him to be the halfback who steers them into the finals.

Alternatively, trying to re-invent his career in North Queensland under his one-time under 20s coach Todd Payten appears the best option.

If ever there was a day the Wests Tigers needed to hold their hands up and show some backbone, it was on Sunday.

A sunny afternoon at Leichhardt where they were farewelling the uncompromising, champion Western Suburbs halfback Tommy Raudonikis.

The club even went to the extent of retiring the no.7 jumper as a mark of respect for the Magpies champion.

What they dished up was sadly what we’ve come to expect from an organisation mired in mediocrity.

Wests Tigers club legend Benji Marshall was talking on Triple M on Sunday where he outlined how Leichhardt Oval on a Sunday afternoon was his favourite venue to play.

Gorden Tallis chimed in and recalled how even when the Brisbane Broncos were an NRL flagship they hated playing at Leichhardt and found it hard to win.

It used to be a graveyard. These days the players are getting booed off at halftime.

Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday.

I see, we get whacked by the last placed team and the halfback has to go. Hmmm.

 

[ElleryHanley]

Here's what I don't get.
I'm not a coach but even I can see that other teams are all able to manoeuvre situations against us that create a one on one with our outside backs with a heap of space and then exploit it with pace or a kick.
Have they not worked on preventing this at training?
Our kick defence in particular is diabolically bad.
Should I send Madge a video of Penrith's defence so he can work out why that doesn't happen to them, and why on the rare occasion that it does there's always 2 or 3 other players there to cover?

All valid.

Nofa was grounded multiple times all season on kicks and did not jump...Payten saw it and they scored. Nofa has been coming in randomly / not in synch with his center, Payten saw it and scored.

What we 'don't know' though is whether Madge addressed this. If he hammered Nofa for weeks about how to defend / jump properly...then it is all on Nofa.

If Madge never said a thing, then he is the one to blame as it is his job to fix / improve them.

We don't know.

 

[The-moP]

Here's what I don't get.
I'm not a coach but even I can see that other teams are all able to manoeuvre situations against us that create a one on one with our outside backs with a heap of space and then exploit it with pace or a kick.
Have they not worked on preventing this at training?
Our kick defence in particular is diabolically bad.
Should I send Madge a video of Penrith's defence so he can work out why that doesn't happen to them, and why on the rare occasion that it does there's always 2 or 3 other players there to cover?

All valid.

Nofa was grounded multiple times all season on kicks and did not jump...Payten saw it and they scored. Nofa has been coming in randomly / not in synch with his center, Payten saw it and scored.

What we 'don't know' though is whether Madge addressed this. If he hammered Nofa for weeks about how to defend / jump properly...then it is all on Nofa.

If Madge never said a thing, then he is the one to blame as it is his job to fix / improve them.

We don't know.

Payten knew the deficiencies in Nofa defence and came out with a game plan on how to attack the Tigers down Nofa's wing .. !! They stuck to the game plan in the 1st half .. and it worked , well done Mr Payten .. !!

 

[jirskyr]

After the insipid and soulless opening 40 minutes at Leichhardt Oval on Sunday afternoon, it’s difficult to comprehend what that actually means.

He sounds genuinely upset, perhaps the first time I've ever seen a Hooper comment where I felt it was his legitimate opinion and not stirring up trouble.

 

[bigsiro]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

"Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday."

Hate to ever agree with Hoops, but, just sayin'............

Yep me too.
For anyone dare saying that Reynolds isn’t worth it, just watch him this year. It’s chalk and cheese.

 

[izotope]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

"Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday."

Hate to ever agree with Hoops, but, just sayin'............

Yep me too.
For anyone dare saying that Reynolds isn’t worth it, just watch him this year. It’s chalk and cheese.

But he's not in his mid twenties, world class, never even got a parking fine, willing to come for peanuts player to meet the criteria of this forum.

 

[Harvey]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

The Wests Tigers keep telling us garbage performances aren’t representative of who the club is or what it stands for.

After the insipid and soulless opening 40 minutes at Leichhardt Oval on Sunday afternoon, it’s difficult to comprehend what that actually means.

It sounds like empty corporate drivel. Little more than public relations spin.

The club needs to cut its losses on local junior Luke Brooks and make the recruitment of South Sydney halfback Adam Reynolds an immediate priority.

It’s not the little no.7’s fault it hasn’t worked out at the Wests Tigers but it’s got to the stage where both player and club look in need of a change.

Brooks has been the Tigers great playmaking hope for the past seven full seasons but after 153 NRL games without a finals appearance it’s time to move on.

It’s a sensitive issue because he’s a local junior who was a Tigers diehard growing up.

The club sat down with him as recently as last month to assure Brooks they wanted him to be the halfback who steers them into the finals.

Alternatively, trying to re-invent his career in North Queensland under his one-time under 20s coach Todd Payten appears the best option.

If ever there was a day the Wests Tigers needed to hold their hands up and show some backbone, it was on Sunday.

A sunny afternoon at Leichhardt where they were farewelling the uncompromising, champion Western Suburbs halfback Tommy Raudonikis.

The club even went to the extent of retiring the no.7 jumper as a mark of respect for the Magpies champion.

What they dished up was sadly what we’ve come to expect from an organisation mired in mediocrity.

Wests Tigers club legend Benji Marshall was talking on Triple M on Sunday where he outlined how Leichhardt Oval on a Sunday afternoon was his favourite venue to play.

Gorden Tallis chimed in and recalled how even when the Brisbane Broncos were an NRL flagship they hated playing at Leichhardt and found it hard to win.

It used to be a graveyard. These days the players are getting booed off at halftime.

Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday.

My biggest concern in this scenario is that Brooks will go to a club with a solid foundation and look like a world beater, while we pay half his contract. Reynolds will come here on $1m as season and look like a older version of Luke Brooks

 

[Speed2burn]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

"Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday."

Hate to ever agree with Hoops, but, just sayin'............

Yep me too.
For anyone dare saying that Reynolds isn’t worth it, just watch him this year. It’s chalk and cheese.

He wouldn’t play like that at the tigers

 

[JC99]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

"Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday."

Hate to ever agree with Hoops, but, just sayin'............

Yep me too.
For anyone dare saying that Reynolds isn’t worth it, just watch him this year. It’s chalk and cheese.

He wouldn’t play like that at the tigers

I don't think his organising skills would suddenly disappear, same goes for his kicking. Sure he'll be under a little more pressure but he's shown he can handle it in his career.

 

[Red Rugby]

When we get rid of the inflated pay packets of Packer and Mbye what could that potentially buy us?

 

[Speed2burn]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

"Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday."

Hate to ever agree with Hoops, but, just sayin'............

Yep me too.
For anyone dare saying that Reynolds isn’t worth it, just watch him this year. It’s chalk and cheese.

He wouldn’t play like that at the tigers

I don't think his organising skills would suddenly disappear, same goes for his kicking. Sure he'll be under a little more pressure but he's shown he can handle it in his career.

Yeah but going from Latrell, Walker, Cook, Gagai, Su’A

To...Nofaluama, Talau, BJ, Laurie, Roberts. What a downgrade

 

[JC99]

Blog with Hoops: Insipid, soulless Tigers must cut Brooks loose and target Reynolds
By James Hooper

"Is the club devoid of soul? It looked like it on Sunday."

Hate to ever agree with Hoops, but, just sayin'............

Yep me too.
For anyone dare saying that Reynolds isn’t worth it, just watch him this year. It’s chalk and cheese.

He wouldn’t play like that at the tigers

I don't think his organising skills would suddenly disappear, same goes for his kicking. Sure he'll be under a little more pressure but he's shown he can handle it in his career.

Yeah but going from Latrell, Walker, Cook, Gagai, Su’A

To...Nofaluama, Talau, BJ, Laurie, Roberts. What a downgrade

Of course it's a downgrade but we've got players who can score points too, if Reynolds can get them organised and help us build pressure with footy IQ there's no reason they can't do alright. We will probably have new centres anyway

End of the day it's pointless worrying about that stuff because our defence sucks and it's the #1 issue right now. Signing Reynolds is an upgrade but he ain't fixing that