Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[avocadoontoast]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

 

[jirskyr]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

 

[DJG]

Can we try a Bulldogs style package deal for all three storm players ie Brandon Smith, Nico Hynes and Dale Finucane?

They are players in demand so basically we have no chance.

We need to go hard. Make an irresistible offer. I don't care if we have to use brown paper bags. Uncle Harry is number 6 on rich list. 11 billion.
Politis is worth 1.1
There must be something we can do to have him more involved.

He is involved

Needs to be more

Would you do more if you could?

I would put 10 Million dollars or more into advertisement across Australia and the world.

Billboards in NYC, Sydney, London saying become a member of the Wests Tigers.

Online advertisement, "add popups" ect.

I would also put money into smaller foundation clubs such as under 15's in remote areas, build new facilities in them places too, doesnt have to be big at all, could be bags of gear with Wests Tigers Logo all over it, with one of the past plays delivering it to them and have a team session.

Remember, Harry has 11 BILLION dollars..

I mean I would do this if I was that rich anyway..

What would you do? @twentyforty

 

[jirskyr]

All this thread really determines is there are some really poor judges of footballers on this forum.

You are going to get a million likes, because all those poor judges agree with you, about the other poor judges.

 

[avocadoontoast]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

 

[jirskyr]

Gildart confirmed

- Raiders weighing up whether to join race for Hynes
- Williams expected to return to Wigan
- Gildart move to Tigers all but finalised
- Wigan rule out early release for Hastings

Just so we are clear "all but finalised" and "finalised" are not the same thing. Remember Latrell.

 

[jirskyr]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Firstly, that's not illegal in any fashion. Also, does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? That his brother was drugged off his nut, allegedly, during his career? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

Tigers have fielded, in my time, players like John Elias, Matt Lodge, Craig Field, Kevin McGuinness, John Hopoate, Tim Simona, Daine Laurie (Snr), Robert Lui, Kyle Lovett, Russell Packer etc. All having a proven or alleged history of bad behaviour, some of whom the club terminated immediately, some of which the club didn't terminate at all. You don't just become a "bad person" overnight; the "type of person" who engages in criminal activity very probably has a history of negative behaviour or personality traits.

 

[avocadoontoast]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

This is a pretty disgusting post. I’d expect more from you.

 

[DJG]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

What about Matt Lodge? Looks like a grub on the field and has a short temper as well, when he gets rocked on the field he has a sook, imagine him in real life?

 

[jirskyr]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

This is a pretty disgusting post. I’d expect more from you.

I don't understand. What is disgusting about it?

 

[tony soprano]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

This is a pretty disgusting post. I’d expect more from you.

They need to change rape/consent laws. The law is a joke is what the de belin case has showed and it’s happened many times before

 

[jirskyr]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

What about Matt Lodge? Looks like a grub on the field and has a short temper as well, when he gets rocked on the field he has a sook, imagine him in real life?

Might be the nicest bloke you've ever met, I wouldn't know. Are we talking about what kind of history someone has, or what they are like as a person, or what they bring to a football side, or what they are only like on a football field?

We've got people pointing the finger at footballers who have not been found guilty in court of an alleged behaviour. I can't cop that, no matter how bad the allegation, it needs to be proven - that's how the court system works.

A mate of mine, not a Tigers supporter, met Mark O'Neill about 10 years ago at a pub, got talking to him. Said he was probably one of the nicest blokes he'd ever had a beer with. Also happens to be a bloke who got sacked from a high-profile job due to an inappropriate incident with a female staffer. Buckets now employed at Parra Eels. So is Mark O'Neill "a good person" or not? I'd even argue being involved with Parra Eels is indictment enough.

 

[tony soprano]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

What about Matt Lodge? Looks like a grub on the field and has a short temper as well, when he gets rocked on the field he has a sook, imagine him in real life?

Might be the nicest bloke you've ever met, I wouldn't know. Are we talking about what kind of history someone has, or what they are like as a person, or what they bring to a football side, or what they are only like on a football field?

We've got people pointing the finger at footballers who have not been found guilty in court of an alleged behaviour. I can't cop that, no matter how bad the allegation, it needs to be proven - that's how the court system works.

A mate of mine, not a Tigers supporter, met Mark O'Neill about 10 years ago at a pub, got talking to him. Said he was probably one of the nicest blokes he'd ever had a beer with. Also happens to be a bloke who got sacked from a high-profile job due to an inappropriate incident with a female staffer. Buckets now employed at Parra Eels. So is Mark O'Neill "a good person" or not? I'd even argue being involved with Parra Eels is indictment enough.

What about Jared Hayne

 

[avocadoontoast]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

This is a pretty disgusting post. I’d expect more from you.

I don't understand. What is disgusting about it?

Mate if you don’t understand I can’t explain it to you. Maybe show it to a female friend and see what they think.

 

[PJ_]

Can we try a Bulldogs style package deal for all three storm players ie Brandon Smith, Nico Hynes and Dale Finucane?

They are players in demand so basically we have no chance.

We need to go hard. Make an irresistible offer. I don't care if we have to use brown paper bags. Uncle Harry is number 6 on rich list. 11 billion.
Politis is worth 1.1
There must be something we can do to have him more involved.

He is involved

Needs to be more

Would you do more if you could?

Yep. Worth 11 billion, what's 50 million.
Buy the team and change everything. The way we eat, travel, live, train

 

[jirskyr]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

What about Matt Lodge? Looks like a grub on the field and has a short temper as well, when he gets rocked on the field he has a sook, imagine him in real life?

Might be the nicest bloke you've ever met, I wouldn't know. Are we talking about what kind of history someone has, or what they are like as a person, or what they bring to a football side, or what they are only like on a football field?

We've got people pointing the finger at footballers who have not been found guilty in court of an alleged behaviour. I can't cop that, no matter how bad the allegation, it needs to be proven - that's how the court system works.

A mate of mine, not a Tigers supporter, met Mark O'Neill about 10 years ago at a pub, got talking to him. Said he was probably one of the nicest blokes he'd ever had a beer with. Also happens to be a bloke who got sacked from a high-profile job due to an inappropriate incident with a female staffer. Buckets now employed at Parra Eels. So is Mark O'Neill "a good person" or not? I'd even argue being involved with Parra Eels is indictment enough.

What about Jared Hayne

Convicted felon. Haven't met him, but I think there's less argument to be made in support of convicted or confessed felons.

 

[jirskyr]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

This is a pretty disgusting post. I’d expect more from you.

I don't understand. What is disgusting about it?

Mate if you don’t understand I can’t explain it to you. Maybe show it to a female friend and see what they think.

Cop out

 

[Tiger5150]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

This is a pretty disgusting post. I’d expect more from you.

They need to change rape/consent laws. The law is a joke is what the de belin case has showed and it’s happened many times before

In what way has the DeBelin case shown its a joke? Was he guilty or not guilty?

 

[cochise]

All this thread really determines is there are some really poor judges of footballers on this forum.

You are going to get a million likes, because all those poor judges agree with you, about the other poor judges.

That was exactly what I expected to happen lol

 

[tony soprano]

jack de belin free to play
theres the lock the tigers need

I'd stop supporting the Tigers if we signed him.

Why is that?

Because I just hate the sort of person he is, and if we signed him it's not the sort of club i'd want to give my support to.

What kind of person is he? I've never met him.

At best, he's a guy that likes to tag team teenagers while his girlfriend is pregnant at home. At worst, he's a rapist. Maybe you should meet him, to get some perspective.

No I don't need to meet him for any particular reason, because I have no opinion on what "sort of person he is". I don't require evidence to support an opinion I don't hold.

I'm only interested in what has been proven in a court of law, under the same legal conditions as all other Australians, or what he does on a football field.

Everything else is hearsay or allegation. Now maybe you'd have a decent position if De Belin has a repeated history of allegations regarding negative treatment of women, but I am pretty sure he hasn't. Maybe De Belin really is a bad person, but I don't know the bloke, and everything else is speculative.

So at best, as you say, he likes to root other women when he has a girlfriend, or perhaps specifically, a pregnant girlfriend. Does anyone watch Matty Johns on Fox, everyone cool that he nailed a chick with his team-mates whilst married and a Dad? Everyone OK about Sonny Bill railing chicks in dunnies whilst having a girlfriend? Dylan Brown under same conditions? How about set the wayback machine Anthony Laffranchi - everyone ok when he was accused of rape in 2006, but it was dismissed in 2008?

Anecdotally - and that's exactly the issue, it's all anecdotal - I've heard a very wide variety of concerning or negative things about a large number of footballers, and if, "at best" only some of it was true, it would still be a very bad indictment on a cross-section of footballers. But, again, it's anecdotal so how can I assume to believe I have an accurate picture of what a footballer is like "as a person"?

This is a pretty disgusting post. I’d expect more from you.

They need to change rape/consent laws. The law is a joke is what the de belin case has showed and it’s happened many times before


In what way has the DeBelin case shown its a joke? Was he guilty or not guilty?

There was never really a decision. The fact there was two cases with no verdict irks me.