Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[tigerballs]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.

So now you are sliding your story from he left because we signed Packer to he left but we later paid Packer more?

No

 

[tigerballs]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?

 

[bbobb]

It’s kind of puzzling to me how people view Woodsy as the devil incarnate. How he orchestrated this or masterminded that. I remind people that we are talking about Aaron Woods. The same Aaron Woods whose greatest quote was “ it is what it is”. I think Aaron himself would be the first to declare that he isn’t an intellectual giant.

I think his manager at the time has much to answer for and may have poorly advised him. For mine, right up until his last hit up for us, he never stopped trying but the club was a shambles at the time and I can fully understand his decision to leave.

True, the game may have passed him and he isn’t what we now need but there was a period there that we knew we fortunate to have an elite prop. I for one wish him well and hope he gets to play on if that’s his desire.

 

[cochise]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.

Mate it has been pointed out numerous times that woods signed with the dogs before Packer signed here. Woods also had an offer on the table for months before he signed elsewhere. Even worse the club captain was touring other teams facilities with players from our club. doesn't sound like a captain to me.

So you were privy to the mood amongst the players at the time and you believe they were all delighted with the upheaval under Taylor and looking forward to more uncertainty with the fourth coach in 6 years. I see you have a sound understanding of what makes a successful football team and should pursue a career in player management with the advice you are obviously capable of providing.

Who said anything about Taylor?

You came on here providing information that doesn't match up with the timeline of events, to be honest you could be right but, due to your reliability, I am unable to take what you say at face value so when there is information that contradicts what has you have said I have to be more inclined to believe that.

 

[Tiger5150]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.

Is this some alternate universe where you’re only allowed to have 1 prop?

Tigerballs is expressing his fever dream that the reason that Woods left is he had a hissy fit that Packer was signed for more than Woods was getting. The logic collapses quickly with the fact that Woods was gone before Packer was signed.

Of course we could have had them both........and a massive $800K salary cap problem.

 

[cochise]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?

Reynolds signed before Packer

 

[tigerballs]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.

Is this some alternate universe where you’re only allowed to have 1 prop?


Tigerballs is expressing his fever dream that the reason that Woods left is he had a hissy fit that Packer was signed for more than Woods was getting. The logic collapses quickly with the fact that Woods was gone before Packer was signed.

Of course we could have had them both........and a massive $800K salary cap problem.

I just explained in very simple terms we would have had no salary cap issue, we had enough in the cap to massively over pay for a couple of other superstars if you recall.

 

[tigerballs]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?

Reynolds signed before Packer

Good luck to Reynolds.

 

[Tiger5150]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?

ahem.....try to keep up. We lost Teddy, Moses and Woods and all of these guys were offered MASSIVE money by the club, but they left PRIOR to signing Packer, Mbye & Reynolds.

You have literally just proved that your crazy theory is rubbish. The offers to Teddy (over $1M), Moses and Woods was over $2.5M (for the three of them). You think the club was planning to add Packer, Mbye & Reynolds $2.5M on TOP of that?

 

[tigerballs]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?

Reynolds signed before Packer

Good luck to Reynolds.

I can't comprehend the hatred you two have for Woods. Have you such miserable lives yourselves?

 

[cochise]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?

Reynolds signed before Packer

Good luck to Reynolds.

I can't comprehend the hatred you two have for Woods. Have you such miserable lives yourselves?

I don't have a hatred for Woods, it is just that what you said doesn't fit the timeline of what occured.

 

[Tiger5150]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?

Reynolds signed before Packer

Good luck to Reynolds.

I can't comprehend the hatred you two have for Woods. Have you such miserable lives yourselves?

Zero hatred for the bloke. He overpriced himself and paid the price. He made the choice as a professional, bought the ticket and took the ride. Didnt cover himself in glory on the way out.

Very good that you are a fan, no problem, but there is no need to make up fictitious storys that defy logic in order to absolve his sins.

 

[tigerballs]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?


ahem.....try to keep up. We lost Teddy, Moses and Woods and all of these guys were offered MASSIVE money by the club, but they left PRIOR to signing Packer, Mbye & Reynolds.

You have literally just proved that your crazy theory is rubbish. The offers to Teddy (over $1M), Moses and Woods was over $2.5M (for the three of them). You think the club was planning to add Packer, Mbye & Reynolds $2.5M on TOP of that?

When did Teddy sign with the Roosters?

 

[tigerballs]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?

Reynolds signed before Packer

Good luck to Reynolds.

I can't comprehend the hatred you two have for Woods. Have you such miserable lives yourselves?


Zero hatred for the bloke. He overpriced himself and paid the price. He made the choice as a professional, bought the ticket and took the ride. Didnt cover himself in glory on the way out.

Very good that you are a fan, no problem, but there is no need to make up fictitious storys that defy logic in order to absolve his sins.

When did Moses sign with the Eels?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?

Reynolds signed before Packer

Good luck to Reynolds.

Not to chime in mate , but I distinctly remember Woods touring the dogs facility with Teddy on the sly , with a goal to deliver the big prize in teddy , and to a lesser extent Moses. The whole thing started through Klemmer who was gone less than year later himself .
Cleary was signed what , Early May ? The timeline defeats your argument . Woods was worth 800k to us . And no one else . The dogs paid him that because Teddy was worth 1.5mil to everyone , and he was asking for 1.2mil. It was Teddy who bailed at the last minute , basically getting everyone from Hasler to Klemmer looking for a new job . He basically ruined 2 clubs in 1 negotiation process . It was quite a feat .

 

[Tiger5150]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?

Reynolds signed before Packer

Good luck to Reynolds.

I can't comprehend the hatred you two have for Woods. Have you such miserable lives yourselves?


Zero hatred for the bloke. He overpriced himself and paid the price. He made the choice as a professional, bought the ticket and took the ride. Didnt cover himself in glory on the way out.

Very good that you are a fan, no problem, but there is no need to make up fictitious storys that defy logic in order to absolve his sins.

When did Moses sign with the Eels?

On 05/04/17 Moses was told that the offer that had been on the table for 9 months had been revoked and they would concentrate on Teddy and your boy.

he signed with Parra16/05/17 which is 2 weeks after your boy signed with Bulldogs and coincidentally the day Packer signed with Tigers.

your point?

 

[Tiger5150]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.

Are you now trying to tell me that Russell Packer was the only player Cleary signed, that Mbye and Reynolds came for free?


ahem.....try to keep up. We lost Teddy, Moses and Woods and all of these guys were offered MASSIVE money by the club, but they left PRIOR to signing Packer, Mbye & Reynolds.

You have literally just proved that your crazy theory is rubbish. The offers to Teddy (over $1M), Moses and Woods was over $2.5M (for the three of them). You think the club was planning to add Packer, Mbye & Reynolds $2.5M on TOP of that?

When did Teddy sign with the Roosters?

04/05/17, your point?

 

[Tiger5150]

It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.

Is this some alternate universe where you’re only allowed to have 1 prop?


Tigerballs is expressing his fever dream that the reason that Woods left is he had a hissy fit that Packer was signed for more than Woods was getting. The logic collapses quickly with the fact that Woods was gone before Packer was signed.

Of course we could have had them both........and a massive $800K salary cap problem.

I just explained in very simple terms we would have had no salary cap issue, we had enough in the cap to massively over pay for a couple of other superstars if you recall.

That is COMPLETE rubbish. The Tigers were offering over $3.2M for the "Big Four". Your boy Woodsy was the FIRST of the three to bail, but your story is that the club was offering these 4 $3.2M and then add $800K in packer? It is insane rubbish.

 

[TigerSJ]

Just to simplify the Woods argument....
Let’s for one second forget any history between WTs and Aaron Woods.
So Ok - he’s available for 2022. We have 4-5 spots in our top 30 to fill, even if we were wanting to use one spot for another prop, would Aaron Woods be the best choice?? Would he be the prop we want to chase??
My answer is clearly NOT!

 

[Telltails]

Woods is just the scapegoat for the real pain that was losing Teddy because no one could argue that it was best decision that Teddy made.