Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

I only want our wingers to be like this, not built like second row forwards with the lack of pace to match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjgrSs-oLV4

far out, that brought back memories

its a simple game, get the ball and run as hard as you can

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Strange game from Isaako, id be watching this space.

Would rather him than DWZ

What about Dufty always a danger withthe ball in hand lighting speed.5 try assist in last night game some of our backs don't do that in a season.

 

[PabloX]

Jessie Arthur’s for Billy Walters anyone ?

Robati please

 

[Sunnycoast_tiger]

Hooper reporting tigers will only take DWZ if Dogs put in $400k

I would prefer Reuben Garrick or Xavier Savage to DWZ.

 

[Tcat]

Hooper reporting tigers will only take DWZ if Dogs put in $400k

Hooper reporting tigers will only take DWZ if Dogs put in $400k

I just hope Hartigan isn't on a few weeks Annual Leave and his understudy isn't looking after this signing.

 

[bathursttiger1]

Strange game from Isaako, id be watching this space.

Would rather him than DWZ

Looks like Isaako doesn’t really want to be at the Broncos.
Playing for a release.

 

[bathursttiger1]

I only want our wingers to be like this, not built like second row forwards with the lack of pace to match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjgrSs-oLV4

It makes you wonder why we haven’t taken a trip to Fiji to find another quick winger.

 

[Snake]

Woods is just the scapegoat for the real pain that was losing Teddy because no one could argue that it was best decision that Teddy made.

Ah ..... no sorry . That’s just not true . Woods gets all the hate because he was directly asked , as club captain mind you , several times where his heart was at and his attitude was “it is what it is “ . I even remember someone interviewing him basically calling him out on his lack of leadership . And referencing that . Our real issue began when Robbie was put offside , as he was the glue that held the playing group together . Not because he was liked by all , but they definitely feared him , and respected him .
Woods showed zero leadership , and if anything was actively pushing the whole big 4 to jump ship to the Dessy Dogs . He was the personification of all that was wrong with our club at the time , similar to what’s going on at the Broncos right now .
Clearly Mitchell’s uncle had been pumping the tyres , and had too much control . And Woods I’m sure sees , the error of his way . He went from someone who could have been held in the same breath as Blocker , and Skando , but now will be a foot note on a time when we let the fox in the hen house .

Woods was a rep player as was Teddy at a club in complete disarray. He earned the right to be approached by other clubs and tour their facilities just like every other player does from all clubs when they are approached and are up for contract. The club made all the errors when trying to re/ sign those two after years of poor management. Handing him the club captain after the club shafted Farah(former club captain) while contracted to the club didn't inspire loyalty - if anything quite the opposite. The club needed a wake up call in the way it operated - and Teddy leaving was it.
Losing Woods was nothing compared to losing Teddy yet he is held to some higher standard for choosing to leave.
The whole attack Woods stuff happens because there is some thought that he may have regreted his decision to leave. No one would be stupid enough to suggest the same with Teddy who couldn't get to the Roosters quick enough.

The selfishness of Tedesco never rates a mention. The loss of arguably our best fullback, Papenhuyzen, whilst he toyed with our club was a disgrace.

I agree Teddys lies and baulking was the only thing that irritated me on his departure ..he was always going to leave.
Whether Paps would of come on like he has with the Storm might be debatable but that was a low act Teddys selfishness ...especially against an organisation that looked after him in his dark injury years!

 

[Snake]

Strange game from Isaako, id be watching this space.

Would rather him than DWZ

Isaako would be a much better signing than DWZ his kicking alone puts him way out in front ...he seems an unhappy camper at the Broncos.

 

[clontarfkid]

Strange game from Isaako, id be watching this space.

Would rather him than DWZ


Looks like Isaako doesn’t really want to be at the Broncos.
Playing for a release.

Played like Mitch Moses did in his last game for us..as tho he had a firm offer elswhere!

 

[Devon Head]

I see Hines has secured a $1.8m, 3 year deal with the Sharks?

He looks a good prospect, but I don’t think we would of entertained that sort of cash? What’s his best position?

Played U20's for Manly as a 5/8, played his juniors as a 5/8. Only recently in last couple of seasons has played a little FB since he joined Sunshine Coast Falcons in 2019.

Then he doesn’t cover the positions we really want/need, he would have known that as well? Besides the fact we probably in a low ball offer?

Can always use good players, but not at any price, especially if they are not specialised in the those positions that we are after, imo.

Confident, we will get them eventually.

As far as I'm aware Tigers didn't go anywhere near him as FB is locked in by Laurie and Doueihi considered the long term 6. I guess the only real possibility would have been Hynes at 6 however with AD, Madden and Hastings as options and Mbye not yet released it would have made little sense to throw in a 5th option.

How much more fiddling around do we need to do with the spine. We’ve brought in AD and Laurie in in the last 2 years, and have Hastings on the way, plus Madden floating around. It’s about time we focus on other areas. So much talk about Hynes on the forum the last two months and we never even spoke to him.

You realize you basically just re-worded what I wrote? I 100% agree, we have more areas of concern other than our spine.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Woods is just the scapegoat for the real pain that was losing Teddy because no one could argue that it was best decision that Teddy made.

Ah ..... no sorry . That’s just not true . Woods gets all the hate because he was directly asked , as club captain mind you , several times where his heart was at and his attitude was “it is what it is “ . I even remember someone interviewing him basically calling him out on his lack of leadership . And referencing that . Our real issue began when Robbie was put offside , as he was the glue that held the playing group together . Not because he was liked by all , but they definitely feared him , and respected him .
Woods showed zero leadership , and if anything was actively pushing the whole big 4 to jump ship to the Dessy Dogs . He was the personification of all that was wrong with our club at the time , similar to what’s going on at the Broncos right now .
Clearly Mitchell’s uncle had been pumping the tyres , and had too much control . And Woods I’m sure sees , the error of his way . He went from someone who could have been held in the same breath as Blocker , and Skando , but now will be a foot note on a time when we let the fox in the hen house .

Woods was a rep player as was Teddy at a club in complete disarray. He earned the right to be approached by other clubs and tour their facilities just like every other player does from all clubs when they are approached and are up for contract. The club made all the errors when trying to re/ sign those two after years of poor management. Handing him the club captain after the club shafted Farah(former club captain) while contracted to the club didn't inspire loyalty - if anything quite the opposite. The club needed a wake up call in the way it operated - and Teddy leaving was it.
Losing Woods was nothing compared to losing Teddy yet he is held to some higher standard for choosing to leave.
The whole attack Woods stuff happens because there is some thought that he may have regreted his decision to leave. No one would be stupid enough to suggest the same with Teddy who couldn't get to the Roosters quick enough.

The selfishness of Tedesco never rates a mention. The loss of arguably our best fullback, Papenhuyzen, whilst he toyed with our club was a disgrace.

For me , he was always the selfish one . It always seemed to be about him . So for him to make a decision that ;
1. Stopped us investing in our gun junior fullback because we had a better one a year or 2 older ( stupidity really)
2. Did the bait and switch with the dogs , had them believing he was going to sign , so much they snared woods first , to sweeten the deal . It basically ruined thier club and started the spiral . Moses signs for the eels soon after , as he doesn’t want to go to the dogs if Teddy isn’t .

It didn’t surprise me . Woods was club captain. And once again , he could have galvanised the 4 of them , but chose to lead the revolt . The contempt in which he held the club captaincy , is the reason . It’s also the 2040 stuff , and the faux “tiger for life” garbage he went on with . He was full of crap , and here in lies the hate .
He could have been classy like Moses Mbye was , when he realised he was looking elsewhere and had the C against his name .
It’s not about signing . The club was a basket case .Everyone knew it . He took the club for a ride . And to pretend otherwise is factually not true.

 

[Devon Head]

Strange game from Isaako, id be watching this space.

Would rather him than DWZ

Isaako would be a much better signing than DWZ his kicking alone puts him way out in front ...he seems an unhappy camper at the Broncos.

Based on his performance last night I wouldn't go anywhere near him. Absolute rubbish last night. When was the last time you saw a FB get hooked by the coach for playing poorly?

 

[Snake]

Strange game from Isaako, id be watching this space.

Would rather him than DWZ

Isaako would be a much better signing than DWZ his kicking alone puts him way out in front ...he seems an unhappy camper at the Broncos.

Based on his performance last night I wouldn't go anywhere near him. Absolute rubbish last night. When was the last time you saw a FB get hooked by the coach for playing poorly?

Yes but the guy can play obviously something is going on with him .

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Strange game from Isaako, id be watching this space.

Would rather him than DWZ

Isaako would be a much better signing than DWZ his kicking alone puts him way out in front ...he seems an unhappy camper at the Broncos.

Based on his performance last night I wouldn't go anywhere near him. Absolute rubbish last night. When was the last time you saw a FB get hooked by the coach for playing poorly?

That's a definite sign he doesn't want to be there we know he's better than that.

 

[the_third]

Just to simplify the Woods argument....
Let’s for one second forget any history between WTs and Aaron Woods.
So Ok - he’s available for 2022. We have 4-5 spots in our top 30 to fill, even if we were wanting to use one spot for another prop, would Aaron Woods be the best choice?? Would he be the prop we want to chase??
My answer is clearly NOT!

Exactly, there are a few above Woods in this lot:

Zero Tackle
PROP
Bunty Afoa, Leeson Ah Mau, Tom Ale, Tom Amone, Morgan Boyle, Jackson Frei, Wiremu Greig, Samuel Hughes, Josh King, Isaac Liu, Dunamis Lui, Patrick Mago, Thomas Mikaele, Dylan Napa, Ofahiki Ogden, Russell Packer, Aaron Pene, Darryn Schonig, Ava Seumanufagai, Aiden Tolman, Jai Whitbread, Aaron Woods

 

[Geo]

Leeson Ah Mau..big unit ..can play 21 NRL..

 

[sleeve]

As said before , our forwards are good, mostly young, improving weekly , and we have plenty of them, they should no longer be our priority.
Our backline will improve with Hastings and Gildart , but we are still short of game breakers in the backline.
Laurie is doing well, as is Douihie, but in the event of injury or suspension, we have little quality to cover these positions. We need a player with speed who can cover Fb ,centre and wing, and can kick goals ,as no 1 priority to my way of thinking.

 

[Needaname]

So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.

Let’s make this clear.

Latrell has said he didn’t want to come here because he wanted to craft into his fullback position, not hold the team together and look for him to make the big decision during the game..

Although I do agree the grub didn’t want to come here regardless, which is fine.. I never wanted him.

Jai Arrow has said:

"No disrespect to the Tigers, but the proud history of Souths and obviously Wayne Bennett and the coaching staff here is second-to-none,"

He chose south’s because he had been in the origin camp multiple times with Bennet and Dimitri.

As for Addo-Carr, most likely came down to money and paying $600K a year for what 4 years? For a winger that more or less has 2 years of his playing form before he declines.. I’d prefer to bring a new kid in for less..

We know what we need and I’m glad we’re not paying overs for duds in a few years.. ITS THE FUTURE !

Addo-Carr felt disrespected that the Tigers wouldn't release Talau to the Storm in order for him to be released early from his contract. Plain and simple


You know this how?

A family member of his told me. Same bloke told me he'd agreed to sign with Melbourne about 4 weeks before Josh made his NRL debut with us


Oooooooook. Not saying I dont believe you, but lets put it through a pub test. Tigers offered him the most money (reported by Pom) to sign for 2022 and tried to get him early.

JAC felt SO disrespected that the Tigers wouldnt give up a guy that JAC has nothing to do with.....that he signed for LESS at a club that didnt try to get him early.....for 2022 anyway?

Thats the story?.....Doesnt add up for me. Not saying you are lying, but I see three options, you are full of it, your mate is full of it, or JAC is a complete moron.

I’m not writing it completely off. Players are emotional and can be quite reactive.
In the first place didn’t he sign with the Storm before we gave him a chance in first grade? Probably felt disrespected he wasn’t a priority then.
After all. If he had no problems with the tigers he would of signed with us after waiting till he was off contract in November.

 

[voice_of_reason]

We need at least 1 winger, that’s if Lee’s lovechild is locked in. I think Laurie is doing a fine job at the back but he needs support from 2 solid wingers to improve our kick return metres. Every team is doing better than us in this part of our game.

No they're not. This might be your perception but the stats don't agree.

For Kick return metres, 'Lee's love child' is averaging 34.6m only slightly behind To'o on 35.7m. Behind him are Teddy, Walsh, RTS, Saab, Coates, Hynes, Rapana, Alex Johntson etc.

In run metres he's also averaging over 150m a game.

As you'd expect, Daine is ahead of Nofo in kick return metres (most fullbacks are as they return the ball more) but is behind Nofo in run metres.

Statistically, DWZ is way ahead of all our wingers and our fullback. Our kick return metres aren't our biggest problem.