Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384255) said:
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384253) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

Sorry mate I didn’t realise you new more about football and what the team needs recruit wise than Madge and hartigan

This is a forum and we can share our views with others even if they're not accepted by all. The key is respect so how about you demonstrate you know the meaning of the word.

Yeah sorry mate I was abit out of line there I should have worded it better
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

Having been to many Reggie games this year the constant call that the younger up and comers would be blocked by external signings is odd.
To be frank I have seen no one that this would affect there certainly is no standouts that's for sure, watching a depleted Panther side at Lidcombe on the weekend this would certainly be the case for them .
Signing externally is certainly needed at this stage .. Jersey fleg players look most likely moving forward.
 
@snake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384271) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

Having been to many Reggie games this year the constant call that the younger up and comers would be blocked by external signings is odd.
To be frank I have seen no one that this would affect there certainly is no standouts that's for sure, watching a depleted Panther side at Lidcombe on the weekend this would certainly be the case for them .
Signing externally is certainly needed at this stage .. Jersey fleg players look most likely moving forward.

I’ve been impressed with Tuilagi in the games I’ve watched. Not a fan of him either Snake?
 
@gcfan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384276) said:
@snake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384271) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

Having been to many Reggie games this year the constant call that the younger up and comers would be blocked by external signings is odd.
To be frank I have seen no one that this would affect there certainly is no standouts that's for sure, watching a depleted Panther side at Lidcombe on the weekend this would certainly be the case for them .
Signing externally is certainly needed at this stage .. Jersey fleg players look most likely moving forward.

I’ve been impressed with Tuilagi in the games I’ve watched. Not a fan of him either Snake?

pretty sure snake was referring solely to wingers getting blocked by signing DWZ
which i agree with, if there was any position where there was an opportunity for a kid to come up and show what they have it would be the wing spot, yet nobody really cemented there spot or was given an opportunity.
instead we moved talua there, roberts, gave cini a shot and then was hung by the fans after a poor second outing. if fitz or any of the others were ready they would have had a shot by now.
is DWZ the right guy? i dunno
is looking for a winger the right choice? i would say so
 
@snake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384271) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

Having been to many Reggie games this year the constant call that the younger up and comers would be blocked by external signings is odd.
To be frank I have seen no one that this would affect there certainly is no standouts that's for sure, watching a depleted Panther side at Lidcombe on the weekend this would certainly be the case for them .
Signing externally is certainly needed at this stage .. Jersey fleg players look most likely moving forward.


completely agree - the outside backs need work and time. There is potential, but not yet.
 
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384210) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379760) said:
If he does come back, at least I can take all the darts out of the inflatable woods doll

Surely he would have gone down on you by now?

He's still a bit hesitant ?
 
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383369) said:
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383106) said:
@blake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382788) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382765) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382615) said:
The question is, do people want Finucane for 800k? Because that's what he's reported to be asking for.

750K per year for 2 years would be good, maybe with a club option. Instant credibility with good players and a culture shift. 100% do it.

I think is way more than a defensive lock/middle forward is worth. He plays a very similar role to Tamou, Twal and Seyfarth and is probably still better then all of them but Twal and Seyfarth still have room to improve while Finucane is at the end of his career and if he is not on the downhill now, he soon will be. Tamou is the player we brought in for Culture and Leadership and we have others that lead by example.

Paying a forward overs also causes friction with the forwards you already have. I would also rate Trbojevic, Radley, Murray, Brandon Smith, McIness, Nathan Brown, Jason Taumalolo, Yeo, Tohu Harris, Tapine, Matterson and possibly some others as locks with more influence on a game.

I’m not interested in Finucane at all. Way too many red flags. A bloke at the back end of his career looking for the biggest contract of his career when his best footy is behind him. On top of that he’s struggled to get on the field the last couple of years.

Big no from me.

It continues to amaze me how many people convince themselves every damn time that *this* 30ish year old bloke on the downswing of his career won't be like all the other ones who've proved either not up to it at all or only interested in the pay day.

Personally, I look at Anasta, Ballin, Matulino, McQueen, Packer, Idris, Roberts, Leilua, Mbye, Rochow and Reynolds and think "we really need to not be signing anyone like this ever again". Others seem to think "the next one will definitely be different".

Good point and I largely agree, but to be fair that's a list of poor or overpriced signings, not a list of 30ish year old signings. Idris was a 25 year old when we signed him, Mbye a similar age. And the James Roberts signing is hard to criticise, it's not like he's on 600k!
 
@tilllindemann said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384291) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383369) said:
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383106) said:
@blake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382788) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382765) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382615) said:
The question is, do people want Finucane for 800k? Because that's what he's reported to be asking for.

750K per year for 2 years would be good, maybe with a club option. Instant credibility with good players and a culture shift. 100% do it.

I think is way more than a defensive lock/middle forward is worth. He plays a very similar role to Tamou, Twal and Seyfarth and is probably still better then all of them but Twal and Seyfarth still have room to improve while Finucane is at the end of his career and if he is not on the downhill now, he soon will be. Tamou is the player we brought in for Culture and Leadership and we have others that lead by example.

Paying a forward overs also causes friction with the forwards you already have. I would also rate Trbojevic, Radley, Murray, Brandon Smith, McIness, Nathan Brown, Jason Taumalolo, Yeo, Tohu Harris, Tapine, Matterson and possibly some others as locks with more influence on a game.

I’m not interested in Finucane at all. Way too many red flags. A bloke at the back end of his career looking for the biggest contract of his career when his best footy is behind him. On top of that he’s struggled to get on the field the last couple of years.

Big no from me.

It continues to amaze me how many people convince themselves every damn time that *this* 30ish year old bloke on the downswing of his career won't be like all the other ones who've proved either not up to it at all or only interested in the pay day.

Personally, I look at Anasta, Ballin, Matulino, McQueen, Packer, Idris, Roberts, Leilua, Mbye, Rochow and Reynolds and think "we really need to not be signing anyone like this ever again". Others seem to think "the next one will definitely be different".

Good point and I largely agree, but to be fair that's a list of poor or overpriced signings, not a list of 30ish year old signings. Idris was a 25 year old when we signed him, Mbye a similar age. And the James Roberts signing is hard to criticise, it's not like he's on 600k!

Roberts will be extended.
 
@snake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384271) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

Having been to many Reggie games this year the constant call that the younger up and comers would be blocked by external signings is odd.
To be frank I have seen no one that this would affect there certainly is no standouts that's for sure, watching a depleted Panther side at Lidcombe on the weekend this would certainly be the case for them .
Signing externally is certainly needed at this stage .. Jersey fleg players look most likely moving forward.

Agree although Fitzgibbon is improving and Israel Ogden looks classy every time I've seen him play..that's not to say signing DWZ would block them .. not that I like the DWZ signing at all but can see why Wests Tigers would..more downside for me than the wishful upside..
 
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

Thank god I'm not the only one supporting this idea..
100% he would make us a better team on the wing where it is his best position..
people need to get out of there heads that he won't play FB with us and also we will not be paying him 850k..
 
@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384293) said:
@snake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384271) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

Having been to many Reggie games this year the constant call that the younger up and comers would be blocked by external signings is odd.
To be frank I have seen no one that this would affect there certainly is no standouts that's for sure, watching a depleted Panther side at Lidcombe on the weekend this would certainly be the case for them .
Signing externally is certainly needed at this stage .. Jersey fleg players look most likely moving forward.

Agree although Fitzgibbon is improving and Israel Ogden looks classy every time I've seen him play..that's not to say signing DWZ would block them .. not that I like the DWZ signing at all but can see why Wests Tigers would..more downside for me than the wishful upside..

NMN
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

We are struggling now and don't see any younger wingers ready to step up into 1st grade for at least 18 months. Enter a Rep player that has captained his country under our current coach, 25 years old(still young) , 6 foot 1 and wait for it ..... getting him for 300-400k is an bargain.. If it doesn't work out then who cares as its not like it for 4 years on 700k. He could play better then TT hands down on the wing so its a YES for me.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384292) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384291) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383369) said:
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383106) said:
@blake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382788) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382765) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382615) said:
The question is, do people want Finucane for 800k? Because that's what he's reported to be asking for.

750K per year for 2 years would be good, maybe with a club option. Instant credibility with good players and a culture shift. 100% do it.

I think is way more than a defensive lock/middle forward is worth. He plays a very similar role to Tamou, Twal and Seyfarth and is probably still better then all of them but Twal and Seyfarth still have room to improve while Finucane is at the end of his career and if he is not on the downhill now, he soon will be. Tamou is the player we brought in for Culture and Leadership and we have others that lead by example.

Paying a forward overs also causes friction with the forwards you already have. I would also rate Trbojevic, Radley, Murray, Brandon Smith, McIness, Nathan Brown, Jason Taumalolo, Yeo, Tohu Harris, Tapine, Matterson and possibly some others as locks with more influence on a game.

I’m not interested in Finucane at all. Way too many red flags. A bloke at the back end of his career looking for the biggest contract of his career when his best footy is behind him. On top of that he’s struggled to get on the field the last couple of years.

Big no from me.

It continues to amaze me how many people convince themselves every damn time that *this* 30ish year old bloke on the downswing of his career won't be like all the other ones who've proved either not up to it at all or only interested in the pay day.

Personally, I look at Anasta, Ballin, Matulino, McQueen, Packer, Idris, Roberts, Leilua, Mbye, Rochow and Reynolds and think "we really need to not be signing anyone like this ever again". Others seem to think "the next one will definitely be different".

Good point and I largely agree, but to be fair that's a list of poor or overpriced signings, not a list of 30ish year old signings. Idris was a 25 year old when we signed him, Mbye a similar age. And the James Roberts signing is hard to criticise, it's not like he's on 600k!

Roberts will be extended.

Upgraded aswell or still super cheapauto?
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384298) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

We are struggling now and don't see any younger wingers ready to step up into 1st grade for at least 18 months. Enter a Rep player that has captained his country under our current coach, 25 years old(still young) , 6 foot 1 and wait for it ..... getting him for 300-400k is an bargain.. If it doesn't work out then who cares as its not like it for 4 years on 700k. He could play better then TT hands down on the wing so its a YES for me.

One of the problems we have had in our backline is lack of pace. Why do you want 2 error prone slow wingers?
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384306) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384292) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384291) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383369) said:
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383106) said:
@blake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382788) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382765) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382615) said:
The question is, do people want Finucane for 800k? Because that's what he's reported to be asking for.

750K per year for 2 years would be good, maybe with a club option. Instant credibility with good players and a culture shift. 100% do it.

I think is way more than a defensive lock/middle forward is worth. He plays a very similar role to Tamou, Twal and Seyfarth and is probably still better then all of them but Twal and Seyfarth still have room to improve while Finucane is at the end of his career and if he is not on the downhill now, he soon will be. Tamou is the player we brought in for Culture and Leadership and we have others that lead by example.

Paying a forward overs also causes friction with the forwards you already have. I would also rate Trbojevic, Radley, Murray, Brandon Smith, McIness, Nathan Brown, Jason Taumalolo, Yeo, Tohu Harris, Tapine, Matterson and possibly some others as locks with more influence on a game.

I’m not interested in Finucane at all. Way too many red flags. A bloke at the back end of his career looking for the biggest contract of his career when his best footy is behind him. On top of that he’s struggled to get on the field the last couple of years.

Big no from me.

It continues to amaze me how many people convince themselves every damn time that *this* 30ish year old bloke on the downswing of his career won't be like all the other ones who've proved either not up to it at all or only interested in the pay day.

Personally, I look at Anasta, Ballin, Matulino, McQueen, Packer, Idris, Roberts, Leilua, Mbye, Rochow and Reynolds and think "we really need to not be signing anyone like this ever again". Others seem to think "the next one will definitely be different".

Good point and I largely agree, but to be fair that's a list of poor or overpriced signings, not a list of 30ish year old signings. Idris was a 25 year old when we signed him, Mbye a similar age. And the James Roberts signing is hard to criticise, it's not like he's on 600k!

Roberts will be extended.

Upgraded aswell or still super cheapauto?

I believe it is about an extra $50k, so still a very cheap deal.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384311) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384306) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384292) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384291) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383369) said:
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383106) said:
@blake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382788) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382765) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382615) said:
The question is, do people want Finucane for 800k? Because that's what he's reported to be asking for.

750K per year for 2 years would be good, maybe with a club option. Instant credibility with good players and a culture shift. 100% do it.

I think is way more than a defensive lock/middle forward is worth. He plays a very similar role to Tamou, Twal and Seyfarth and is probably still better then all of them but Twal and Seyfarth still have room to improve while Finucane is at the end of his career and if he is not on the downhill now, he soon will be. Tamou is the player we brought in for Culture and Leadership and we have others that lead by example.

Paying a forward overs also causes friction with the forwards you already have. I would also rate Trbojevic, Radley, Murray, Brandon Smith, McIness, Nathan Brown, Jason Taumalolo, Yeo, Tohu Harris, Tapine, Matterson and possibly some others as locks with more influence on a game.

I’m not interested in Finucane at all. Way too many red flags. A bloke at the back end of his career looking for the biggest contract of his career when his best footy is behind him. On top of that he’s struggled to get on the field the last couple of years.

Big no from me.

It continues to amaze me how many people convince themselves every damn time that *this* 30ish year old bloke on the downswing of his career won't be like all the other ones who've proved either not up to it at all or only interested in the pay day.

Personally, I look at Anasta, Ballin, Matulino, McQueen, Packer, Idris, Roberts, Leilua, Mbye, Rochow and Reynolds and think "we really need to not be signing anyone like this ever again". Others seem to think "the next one will definitely be different".

Good point and I largely agree, but to be fair that's a list of poor or overpriced signings, not a list of 30ish year old signings. Idris was a 25 year old when we signed him, Mbye a similar age. And the James Roberts signing is hard to criticise, it's not like he's on 600k!

Roberts will be extended.

Upgraded aswell or still super cheapauto?

I believe it is about an extra $50k, so still a very cheap deal.

Fairly warranted, he's gone ok.
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384324) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384311) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384306) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384292) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384291) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383369) said:
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383106) said:
@blake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382788) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382765) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382615) said:
The question is, do people want Finucane for 800k? Because that's what he's reported to be asking for.

750K per year for 2 years would be good, maybe with a club option. Instant credibility with good players and a culture shift. 100% do it.

I think is way more than a defensive lock/middle forward is worth. He plays a very similar role to Tamou, Twal and Seyfarth and is probably still better then all of them but Twal and Seyfarth still have room to improve while Finucane is at the end of his career and if he is not on the downhill now, he soon will be. Tamou is the player we brought in for Culture and Leadership and we have others that lead by example.

Paying a forward overs also causes friction with the forwards you already have. I would also rate Trbojevic, Radley, Murray, Brandon Smith, McIness, Nathan Brown, Jason Taumalolo, Yeo, Tohu Harris, Tapine, Matterson and possibly some others as locks with more influence on a game.

I’m not interested in Finucane at all. Way too many red flags. A bloke at the back end of his career looking for the biggest contract of his career when his best footy is behind him. On top of that he’s struggled to get on the field the last couple of years.

Big no from me.

It continues to amaze me how many people convince themselves every damn time that *this* 30ish year old bloke on the downswing of his career won't be like all the other ones who've proved either not up to it at all or only interested in the pay day.

Personally, I look at Anasta, Ballin, Matulino, McQueen, Packer, Idris, Roberts, Leilua, Mbye, Rochow and Reynolds and think "we really need to not be signing anyone like this ever again". Others seem to think "the next one will definitely be different".

Good point and I largely agree, but to be fair that's a list of poor or overpriced signings, not a list of 30ish year old signings. Idris was a 25 year old when we signed him, Mbye a similar age. And the James Roberts signing is hard to criticise, it's not like he's on 600k!

Roberts will be extended.

Upgraded aswell or still super cheapauto?

I believe it is about an extra $50k, so still a very cheap deal.

Fairly warranted, he's gone ok.

I think some of the critics on here have been a little too harsh, I think he suffered from playing outside Doueihi a little.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384325) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384324) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384311) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384306) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384292) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384291) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383369) said:
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1383106) said:
@blake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382788) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382765) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1382615) said:
The question is, do people want Finucane for 800k? Because that's what he's reported to be asking for.

750K per year for 2 years would be good, maybe with a club option. Instant credibility with good players and a culture shift. 100% do it.

I think is way more than a defensive lock/middle forward is worth. He plays a very similar role to Tamou, Twal and Seyfarth and is probably still better then all of them but Twal and Seyfarth still have room to improve while Finucane is at the end of his career and if he is not on the downhill now, he soon will be. Tamou is the player we brought in for Culture and Leadership and we have others that lead by example.

Paying a forward overs also causes friction with the forwards you already have. I would also rate Trbojevic, Radley, Murray, Brandon Smith, McIness, Nathan Brown, Jason Taumalolo, Yeo, Tohu Harris, Tapine, Matterson and possibly some others as locks with more influence on a game.

I’m not interested in Finucane at all. Way too many red flags. A bloke at the back end of his career looking for the biggest contract of his career when his best footy is behind him. On top of that he’s struggled to get on the field the last couple of years.

Big no from me.

It continues to amaze me how many people convince themselves every damn time that *this* 30ish year old bloke on the downswing of his career won't be like all the other ones who've proved either not up to it at all or only interested in the pay day.

Personally, I look at Anasta, Ballin, Matulino, McQueen, Packer, Idris, Roberts, Leilua, Mbye, Rochow and Reynolds and think "we really need to not be signing anyone like this ever again". Others seem to think "the next one will definitely be different".

Good point and I largely agree, but to be fair that's a list of poor or overpriced signings, not a list of 30ish year old signings. Idris was a 25 year old when we signed him, Mbye a similar age. And the James Roberts signing is hard to criticise, it's not like he's on 600k!

Roberts will be extended.

Upgraded aswell or still super cheapauto?

I believe it is about an extra $50k, so still a very cheap deal.

Fairly warranted, he's gone ok.

I think some of the critics on here have been a little too harsh, I think he suffered from playing outside Doueihi a little.

he's hit the ball up well and looked threatening, its just how he'll go under the high ball, especially receiving attention this week off Sivo.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384307) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384298) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

We are struggling now and don't see any younger wingers ready to step up into 1st grade for at least 18 months. Enter a Rep player that has captained his country under our current coach, 25 years old(still young) , 6 foot 1 and wait for it ..... getting him for 300-400k is an bargain.. If it doesn't work out then who cares as its not like it for 4 years on 700k. He could play better then TT hands down on the wing so its a YES for me.

One of the problems we have had in our backline is lack of pace. Why do you want 2 error prone slow wingers?

Good point but there is no experienced wingers out there with pace we can get.. JAC would of been excellent but also would cost 600k++ . Maybe Madge is thinking lets get DWZ as an experienced winger until we find a fast up and comer we can put there.
I'm no recruitment guru but I do trust the decisions been made at the club as most of them have turned out well in this building process.
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384335) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384307) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384298) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384252) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1384250) said:
Just checked DWZ stats and he’s scored 5 tries in 9 games and averages 167m a game, that’s 20 more meters than nofa! All that in a dogs team Playing out of position with no forwards. Just imagine nofa and DWZ chalking up those meters in our team together! For 3-400k and swap with Joey leilua, make it happen!!

They would be one of the slowest wing combinations in the NRL. A big no thanks. Wingers also need to possess pace and outstanding finishing and not just 10 metres out.

DWZ should not be blocking one of our good youngsters from a wing position. Good young players who even at their age offer more than simply hitting the ball up like a second row forward. Thank goodness Sheens is coming so we can have some innovative thinking aboard HMAS Weststigers.

We are struggling now and don't see any younger wingers ready to step up into 1st grade for at least 18 months. Enter a Rep player that has captained his country under our current coach, 25 years old(still young) , 6 foot 1 and wait for it ..... getting him for 300-400k is an bargain.. If it doesn't work out then who cares as its not like it for 4 years on 700k. He could play better then TT hands down on the wing so its a YES for me.

One of the problems we have had in our backline is lack of pace. Why do you want 2 error prone slow wingers?

Good point but there is no experienced wingers out there with pace we can get.. JAC would of been excellent but also would cost 600k++ . Maybe Madge is thinking lets get DWZ as an experienced winger until we find a fast up and comer we can put there.
I'm no recruitment guru but I do trust the decisions been made at the club as most of them have turned out well in this building process.

Yeah but why would you want to sign DWZ for 2 years on pretty good money (even subsidised) just for the hell of it? I'd rather keep JTJ there until we find that up and comer.
 

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