Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[tigger19]

@THE_POM @Yossarian Great news about Maumalo

With GIldart, Maumalo and Hastings signed but Packer, BJ and likely Mbye leaving plus a few hundred k left over this yr it feels like even with some upgrade for younger blokes we have money for a BIG name

Any ideas what we are still looking for (preferably who) but im interested in what psoitions we are still trying to fill

No to Woods

Looking for a big $$ 2nd rower preferably.
Plenty of movement for not off contract players.
Plenty still to play out, Issac Liu is a target but will be tough to pry him away from Roosters, Finucane’s asking price a bit much & likely a shark.

Thanks Pom, I would of thought the club would be looking at a quality 13 with ball playing ability more than 2nd row, now that Garner is paying well,Blore is healthy, and Tuilagi is not far off as well?

 

[TigerWest]

I think people underestimate the importance of the backs working it out from our end. KM will be more effective than most of our players getting us upfield early. It changes the dynamics of the game - field position, forward work rate, options etc.

He is a liability in defense but so is DWZ & Issako, most wingers are.

Will be interesting as to what this means for JTJ, TT, AJ & AD once he joins.

100% this is the sole reason brian to o got picked in origin his yardage is just insane

Coaches should fix defensive issues.

I honestly think nofo should have got picked last year. He was a deadset beast
Brian to’o has been a notch better than nofo was last year but he is also in a far better team if nofo was in panthers side he would look just as good I reakon (on last years form not this years)

I think Nofo’s biggest problem is his defensive issues, unless he can change (I don’t think he will/can, unless we drop him), he will never see higher honours?

 

[tigger19]

I think people underestimate the importance of the backs working it out from our end. KM will be more effective than most of our players getting us upfield early. It changes the dynamics of the game - field position, forward work rate, options etc.

He is a liability in defense but so is DWZ & Issako, most wingers are.

Will be interesting as to what this means for JTJ, TT, AJ & AD once he joins.

I don't think it means anything for these guys, Douehi has his position locked in at centre

I think people underestimate the importance of the backs working it out from our end. KM will be more effective than most of our players getting us upfield early. It changes the dynamics of the game - field position, forward work rate, options etc.

He is a liability in defense but so is DWZ & Issako, most wingers are.

Will be interesting as to what this means for JTJ, TT, AJ & AD once he joins.

I don't think it means anything for these guys, Douehi will play centre or possibly some 6, TT AJ Jtj and Gildart will fight it out for the other centre position

 

[cochise]

I think people underestimate the importance of the backs working it out from our end. KM will be more effective than most of our players getting us upfield early. It changes the dynamics of the game - field position, forward work rate, options etc.

He is a liability in defense but so is DWZ & Issako, most wingers are.

Will be interesting as to what this means for JTJ, TT, AJ & AD once he joins.

100% this is the sole reason brian to o got picked in origin his yardage is just insane

Coaches should fix defensive issues.

I honestly think nofo should have got picked last year. He was a deadset beast
Brian to’o has been a notch better than nofo was last year but he is also in a far better team if nofo was in panthers side he would look just as good I reakon (on last years form not this years)

He thought so too, but you both are wrong. His defensive issues are just to big to warrant rep selection.

 

[Spartan117]

i read an article last night on fastest players at each club from 2019 and Maumalo was the fastest over the first 10m whuch is the most essential to be fastest over

I read an article last year that Josh A was the fastest over 10 at out club...

Just sayin...

 

[Spartan117]

@THE_POM @Yossarian Great news about Maumalo

With GIldart, Maumalo and Hastings signed but Packer, BJ and likely Mbye leaving plus a few hundred k left over this yr it feels like even with some upgrade for younger blokes we have money for a BIG name

Any ideas what we are still looking for (preferably who) but im interested in what psoitions we are still trying to fill

No to Woods

Looking for a big $$ 2nd rower preferably.
Plenty of movement for not off contract players.
Plenty still to play out, Issac Liu is a target but will be tough to pry him away from Roosters, Finucane’s asking price a bit much & likely a shark.

Thanks Pom, I would of thought the club would be looking at a quality 13 with ball playing ability more than 2nd row, now that Garner is paying well,Blore is healthy, and Tuilagi is not far off as well?

Dont forget Alex seyfarth.

I think we will find Joffa and Hastings battle fir 13 next year.

Different value propositions

 

[tigger19]

Maumalo an upgrade on Dwz, somehow I think Dwz will struggle to get back to his best football, Isaako is great in attack, fast and can create, Maumalo better at the dirty hitups and at finishing, as much as I wanted JaMayne I think Maumolo is a better option

 

[tony soprano]

I think people underestimate the importance of the backs working it out from our end. KM will be more effective than most of our players getting us upfield early. It changes the dynamics of the game - field position, forward work rate, options etc.

He is a liability in defense but so is DWZ & Issako, most wingers are.

Will be interesting as to what this means for JTJ, TT, AJ & AD once he joins.

100% this is the sole reason brian to o got picked in origin his yardage is just insane

Coaches should fix defensive issues.

I honestly think nofo should have got picked last year. He was a deadset beast
Brian to’o has been a notch better than nofo was last year but he is also in a far better team if nofo was in panthers side he would look just as good I reakon (on last years form not this years)

He was close mate but never gonna happen with Freddy as coach. Hopefully sheens helps with some defence structure tips.

 

[tigger19]

@THE_POM @Yossarian Great news about Maumalo

With GIldart, Maumalo and Hastings signed but Packer, BJ and likely Mbye leaving plus a few hundred k left over this yr it feels like even with some upgrade for younger blokes we have money for a BIG name

Any ideas what we are still looking for (preferably who) but im interested in what psoitions we are still trying to fill

No to Woods

Looking for a big $$ 2nd rower preferably.
Plenty of movement for not off contract players.
Plenty still to play out, Issac Liu is a target but will be tough to pry him away from Roosters, Finucane’s asking price a bit much & likely a shark.

Thanks Pom, I would of thought the club would be looking at a quality 13 with ball playing ability more than 2nd row, now that Garner is paying well,Blore is healthy, and Tuilagi is not far off as well?

Dont forget Alex seyfarth.

I think we will find Joffa and Hastings battle fir 13 next year.

Different value propositions

Seyfarth is improving and maybe an option to start next year, atm he is a great at coming off the bench for impact, Offa is a Fwd for mine and Hastings I can't see at lock, halves with Brooks

 

[cochise]

i read an article last night on fastest players at each club from 2019 and Maumalo was the fastest over the first 10m whuch is the most essential to be fastest over

I read an article last year that Josh A was the fastest over 10 at out club...

Just sayin...

Was that when he was rushing to collect his paycheck?

 

[TigerWest]

@THE_POM @Yossarian Great news about Maumalo

With GIldart, Maumalo and Hastings signed but Packer, BJ and likely Mbye leaving plus a few hundred k left over this yr it feels like even with some upgrade for younger blokes we have money for a BIG name

Any ideas what we are still looking for (preferably who) but im interested in what psoitions we are still trying to fill

No to Woods

Looking for a big $$ 2nd rower preferably.
Plenty of movement for not off contract players.
Plenty still to play out, Issac Liu is a target but will be tough to pry him away from Roosters, Finucane’s asking price a bit much & likely a shark.

Thanks Pom, I would of thought the club would be looking at a quality 13 with ball playing ability more than 2nd row, now that Garner is paying well,Blore is healthy, and Tuilagi is not far off as well?

Dont forget Alex seyfarth.

I think we will find Joffa and Hastings battle fir 13 next year.

Different value propositions

I certainly think the club is switched on to the teams needs, but for the next year or two, I just think our team is pretty solid atm and getting better each game, with a good blend of experience and youth?
I just can’t see the need for another forward (certainly not a big $ one anyway?), plus we have Hastings coming, if we have just signed Maumalo, who gets good meters and we have Gildart coming, then imo, the backs are starting to look solid as well? I don’t see the need to push Mbye out atm either.
Can always use good players, but where will they fit? IMO, a good opportunity to get some more gun kids into our ranks for the future.

 

[Russell]

i read an article last night on fastest players at each club from 2019 and Maumalo was the fastest over the first 10m whuch is the most essential to be fastest over

I read an article last year that Josh A was the fastest over 10 at out club...

Just sayin...

Was that when he was rushing to collect his paycheck?

No it was when he was mowing the KB stand end of LO.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

What is everyone's obsession with measuring a winger on the amount of metres they make? That's merely one of many qualities they need, and definitely not in the top 5 key positional traits.

Wingers in the modern game do more! Running meters are one of the most important stats to look at. They are used for dirty runs! Help out the forwards. Finishing and defence round out the top 3 traits that are probably the most important aspect of a winger. Obviously safe hands.

Of course wingers have to his the ball up, but if their defence is poor and they make a lot of errors then that negates those qualities. And if you're not fast your just a run of the mill player.

Its better than the obsession of measuring a winger based on how fast they are over 100m which regularly happens on the forum. That speed is useful maybe once every 10 games when they get in the clear with no fullback in front of them.

There are lots of important things a winger needs, but it’s very important to make yardage. Why do you think To’o is so good? He’s not particularly fast or tall.

Addo Carr finds his pace more useful than once every ten games.

Possessing genuine pace allows a new dimension in attack such as spreading the ball wide when clearing the ball from near your line as Bellamy's team has been doing. It also facilitates attacking kicks to allow players with genuine pace to follow through as we saw in SOO last year. Finally and most importantly, fast players provide a new dimension in defence not that we would know much about that with the dirty hit up obsession and lack of backline pace..

Pace is definitely important but I think he's talking about specifically being fast over 100 metre, really doesn't get used much. Being fast over about 40 metres is what's important, pure acceleration. That's what makes JAC, Saab and Roberts so dangerous they go from 0 to top speed in an instant

That post represents what is wrong at WTs in terms of tactics and game plan. A lack of innovative thinking. Fortuitously, we have one of the great innovators returning to our club. Perhaps those above Maguire recognise this as well.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I think people underestimate the importance of the backs working it out from our end. KM will be more effective than most of our players getting us upfield early. It changes the dynamics of the game - field position, forward work rate, options etc.

He is a liability in defense but so is DWZ & Issako, most wingers are.

Will be interesting as to what this means for JTJ, TT, AJ & AD once he joins.

100% this is the sole reason brian to o got picked in origin his yardage is just insane

Coaches should fix defensive issues.

I honestly think nofo should have got picked last year. He was a deadset beast
Brian to’o has been a notch better than nofo was last year but he is also in a far better team if nofo was in panthers side he would look just as good I reakon (on last years form not this years)

Nofo is the wish.com version of To’o

 

[cochise]

I think people underestimate the importance of the backs working it out from our end. KM will be more effective than most of our players getting us upfield early. It changes the dynamics of the game - field position, forward work rate, options etc.

He is a liability in defense but so is DWZ & Issako, most wingers are.

Will be interesting as to what this means for JTJ, TT, AJ & AD once he joins.

100% this is the sole reason brian to o got picked in origin his yardage is just insane

Coaches should fix defensive issues.

I honestly think nofo should have got picked last year. He was a deadset beast
Brian to’o has been a notch better than nofo was last year but he is also in a far better team if nofo was in panthers side he would look just as good I reakon (on last years form not this years)

Nofo is the wish.com version of To’o

That is being kind, I would think Dhgate.com

 

[Blake]

What is everyone's obsession with measuring a winger on the amount of metres they make? That's merely one of many qualities they need, and definitely not in the top 5 key positional traits.

I think with the wingers and centres you need 2 to make meters at the start of a set, a tall target for kicks on each side, you also want some speed, evasion, x-factor in the group. You also want them all to be able to defend as a team and make one-on-one tackles.

The spine has a set of jobs that need to be covered and so do the 4 outside backs.

 

[JC99]

What is everyone's obsession with measuring a winger on the amount of metres they make? That's merely one of many qualities they need, and definitely not in the top 5 key positional traits.

Wingers in the modern game do more! Running meters are one of the most important stats to look at. They are used for dirty runs! Help out the forwards. Finishing and defence round out the top 3 traits that are probably the most important aspect of a winger. Obviously safe hands.

Of course wingers have to his the ball up, but if their defence is poor and they make a lot of errors then that negates those qualities. And if you're not fast your just a run of the mill player.

Its better than the obsession of measuring a winger based on how fast they are over 100m which regularly happens on the forum. That speed is useful maybe once every 10 games when they get in the clear with no fullback in front of them.

There are lots of important things a winger needs, but it’s very important to make yardage. Why do you think To’o is so good? He’s not particularly fast or tall.

Addo Carr finds his pace more useful than once every ten games.

Possessing genuine pace allows a new dimension in attack such as spreading the ball wide when clearing the ball from near your line as Bellamy's team has been doing. It also facilitates attacking kicks to allow players with genuine pace to follow through as we saw in SOO last year. Finally and most importantly, fast players provide a new dimension in defence not that we would know much about that with the dirty hit up obsession and lack of backline pace..

Pace is definitely important but I think he's talking about specifically being fast over 100 metre, really doesn't get used much. Being fast over about 40 metres is what's important, pure acceleration. That's what makes JAC, Saab and Roberts so dangerous they go from 0 to top speed in an instant



That post represents what is wrong at WTs in terms of tactics and game plan. A lack of innovative thinking. Fortuitously, we have one of the great innovators returning to our club. Perhaps those above Maguire recognise this as well.

I know you have high hopes in sheens but at the end of the day madge and hartigan are still the blokes in charge and running the footy team - sheens sounds like he will be around for them to get advice off

 

[JC99]

The Mole reporting we've been approached about signing Mitchell Pearce, which is probably true, but I sincerely doubt we sign him. We've got three halfbacks signed up for next year already and he's rubbish. He wants a two year deal as well

 

[getagrip]

The Mole reporting we've been approached about signing Mitchell Pearce, which is probably true, but I sincerely doubt we sign him. We've got three halfbacks signed up for next year already and he's rubbish. He wants a two year deal as well

Showed no interest in Wests Tigers at the beginning of his career.
He is old and carries baggage. He was also punted by Roosters because he could not lead them to a Premiership. Stay away please.

 

[BAGNF05]

The Mole reporting we've been approached about signing Mitchell Pearce, which is probably true, but I sincerely doubt we sign him. We've got three halfbacks signed up for next year already and he's rubbish. He wants a two year deal as well

Showed no interest in Wests Tigers at the beginning of his career.
He is old and carries baggage. He was also punted by Roosters because he could not lead them to a Premiership. Stay away please.

Did lead them to one though