Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

Edit: Cheers for previous response @TrueTiger
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399569) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

Did @MAGPIES1963 just call me spunky?
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399443) said:
@jd-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399436) said:
It was reported on this very forum that we were looking at him. I disagree very much with your assertion that the poster is compelled to find negatively to such lengths as it being almost considered as stupidity.

Reported on the forum is your basis for reality? Please there's more fantasy on this forum than in all the writings of Tolkien.

Second assertion is having keenly read avocado's posts long-term and then this particular comment that criticises the club for not signing a dude who we have never mentioned in public and isn't even being released from his contract. That's the stupidity. Isn't a club in Australia or New Zealand signing TPJ if the guy can't gain a release.
[/QUOTE]

"there's more fantasy on this forum than all the writings of Tolkien" :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing::rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
What a great line.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399572) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399569) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

Did @MAGPIES1963 just call me spunky?

No mate,he forgot to mention he has an appointment with specsavers...:astonished:
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399572) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399569) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

Did @MAGPIES1963 just call me spunky?

Yes I did Cochise, but I think I was getting you confused with Tom Cruise.
And you are both extremely good looking, so much so you could be twins :hugging_face: :grin: :grin:
 
@truetiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399575) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399572) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399569) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

Did @MAGPIES1963 just call me spunky?

No mate,he forgot to mention he has an appointment with specsavers...:astonished:

Damn, I was enjoying the confidence boost.
 
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399576) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399572) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399569) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

Did @MAGPIES1963 just call me spunky?

Yes I did Cochise, but I think I was getting you confused with Tom Cruise.
And you are both extremely good looking, so much so you could be twins :hugging_face: :grin: :grin:

Im a little taller.
 
@tigertone said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399567) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399555) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399553) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

I think it is just going to take time, I think we need to build through youth as established stars are reluctant to come here due to decade of non finals appearances. We have been attracting good young players and I have been concerned about our ability to develop those players but I think the acquisition of Betsey, Kimmorley and Sheens, in pathways roles, shows this as an area the club was concerned about as well and is taking steps to rectify that issue. Ronny Palmer is also in a role in pathways as well so we are sending resources that direction.

Love the fact our Flegg is doing well. Need to bring as many of those boys together through our systems as possible, just like Penrith did

This is where our future is , and as you said if these boys can stay together at this club and come up together through to first grade we will then have exactly what the panthers have.
The big job of our people behind the scenes is keeping these guys interested in staying at this club and not wanting to move on.

:clap: :clap: :clap:
 
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399576) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399572) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399569) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

Did @MAGPIES1963 just call me spunky?

Yes I did Cochise, but I think I was getting you confused with Tom Cruise.
And you are both extremely good looking, so much so you could be twins :hugging_face: :grin: :grin:

R U OK...:eyes:
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399569) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

good reply Lauren :+1:
 
@truetiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399575) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399572) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399569) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

Did @MAGPIES1963 just call me spunky?

No mate,he forgot to mention he has an appointment with specsavers...:astonished:

HaHaHa...very funny :hugging_face: :joy: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :upside_down_face:
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399578) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399576) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399572) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399569) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

Did @MAGPIES1963 just call me spunky?

Yes I did Cochise, but I think I was getting you confused with Tom Cruise.
And you are both extremely good looking, so much so you could be twins :hugging_face: :grin: :grin:

Im a little taller.

The most famous twins of all time were different heights as well Cochise. :+1: :grin: :grin:
 
@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399582) said:
Back on topic please..

Joey Manu..

What about Joey? Been going through pages here and I can’t see a thing about him.
Surely there’s no way we get such a classy centre!!
 
@truetiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399580) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399576) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399572) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399569) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399559) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399549) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399546) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399544) said:
Is there even a mutual vision from Madge, Hartigan and the club on what type of team they wish to be identified as?

If we're attempting to buy players based on their leadership skills only, then this looks problematic to what we've been trying to establish and move away from for the past couple of years - and it perhaps highlights that there may be issues with certain personnel.
Looks like we've been filling gaps with no clear picture of what we wish to become or we're no closer to it.
I dont see much wrong with the player's abilities but more the directive they're playing under - tactical game plans - isn't working effectively or isn't modified to suit us.
Yes they're young with limited experience and there's leadership problems but there's this great big disconnect between them and without correcting this, buying a player for their leadership skills only isn't going to change this.
We just look like we can't find any rhythm as a team and all be on the same page.
I know some people dont wish to hear it but the fact some of our most influential and experienced players are unable to consistently perform to task (in our seasoned NRL players) and are most susceptible to being our poorest, that we're still not working well together, show an inability to adhere to game plans and our players look to lack awareness, this should really bring the techniques and strategies being applied to motivate the team into question.

Of course that vision exist, it goes further than that, they have actually developed the archetypes of the players they want in each position.

Thanks Garry. Know that it's the underperforming from the team which makes me question this but the cohesiveness of the team or effort isn't really improving, so it's bugging me more than it should.

I only want us to buy the most skilful, athletic and competitive players but without fixing this (getting this team to perform to their best) seems like it'll mean very little and it looks more like we're not taking the correct measures or don't have the right resources.

"I only want us to buy the most skillful, athletic and competitive players".
I've probably said too much, I'll see myself out :zipper_mouth_face:

It's the only area I can't criticise the team with. We've got the best looking squad in the comp (the player with the sexiest eyes and prettiest face)...so at least I can feel grateful for having this - some good sorts to watch ?

Apologies for derailing though folks

Did @MAGPIES1963 just call me spunky?

Yes I did Cochise, but I think I was getting you confused with Tom Cruise.
And you are both extremely good looking, so much so you could be twins :hugging_face: :grin: :grin:

R U OK...:eyes:

Yeh I'm fine thanks truetiger :+1:
 
@bigsiro said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399588) said:
@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399582) said:
Back on topic please..

Joey Manu..

What about Joey? Been going through pages here and I can’t see a thing about him.
Surely there’s no way we get such a classy centre!!

Signing suggestions..
 
@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399590) said:
@bigsiro said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399588) said:
@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1399582) said:
Back on topic please..

Joey Manu..

What about Joey? Been going through pages here and I can’t see a thing about him.
Surely there’s no way we get such a classy centre!!

Signing suggestions..
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