Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[BAGNF05]

If you speak to supporters of most clubs you will hear the same comments about their club as we do on here "Nobody wants to come to us" "Why do we only get the cast offs" "Why are we paying player X 750k he is not worth half that" "They only come here to get a pension".
Probably the only clubs that dont have that problem would be Storm Pamfers and Rorters.We just want to believe that it is only us that feel that way

There’s not many clubs who can’t attract at least one star player though. Knights Ponga, Dogs JAC, Titans Fifita, Who’s our star?

the decoy king himself

From long bay to the Illawarra coal cutters via chilly Brookvale oval, a true leader.


If you changed the word "leader" to "fraud" there wouldnt be a WT supporter who would disagree

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[versa]

If I were head of recruiting I would be starting with this list. Yeah some might still be contracted somewhere else but we all know that doesn’t hold much weight these days.


 

[versa]

Add Keaon Kolomantagi to that list. It’s time to get ruthless in recruitment. I know it’s not possible to sign all obviously but each and everyone on that list can add to our side. You get 2 or 3 you will find we will attract more over time.

 

[Tiger5150]

Looks like we **missed out again** and have all this cash to spend and no none wants it...
So does our focus turn to upgrading some of the current guys and promoting development players ??
Its hard been a Tigers supporter and they say there is Ups and Downs.... Just waiting for the Up's as it been 10 years. We are a joke

Missed out on what again?

TPJ but not just him....
It's not a coincidence that we seem to be involved in **negotiations with players but they always seem to go elsewhere** and its like we are just a bargaining tool. People might not agree or like it but until we actually get a big signing that is what we are.
Its a shame as we have so much potential as a club and have a massive fan base. We are building very well from the ground up and adding a lot of pieces off the field but at the end of the day if you don't win on the field you just don't win.

Maumalo...?

Xavier Coates was the quality winger for sale this year. Maumalo was the bloke in reggies at NZL.

Have you watch Coates play this year? Thank god we missed out on him (or the club decided to go elsewhere).

 

[BAGNF05]

Looks like we **missed out again** and have all this cash to spend and no none wants it...
So does our focus turn to upgrading some of the current guys and promoting development players ??
Its hard been a Tigers supporter and they say there is Ups and Downs.... Just waiting for the Up's as it been 10 years. We are a joke

Missed out on what again?

TPJ but not just him....
It's not a coincidence that we seem to be involved in **negotiations with players but they always seem to go elsewhere** and its like we are just a bargaining tool. People might not agree or like it but until we actually get a big signing that is what we are.
Its a shame as we have so much potential as a club and have a massive fan base. We are building very well from the ground up and adding a lot of pieces off the field but at the end of the day if you don't win on the field you just don't win.

Maumalo...?

Xavier Coates was the quality winger for sale this year. Maumalo was the bloke in reggies at NZL.


Have you watch Coates play this year? Thank god we missed out on him (or the club decided to go elsewhere).

Signs with Storm, does this, think he’ll be fine

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/06/17/coates-with-a-huge-try-saving-tackle-on-gagai/

 

[BZN]

We have to get real regarding Finnucane,
Storm are excellent at keeping a top class roster, and removing dead wood.
Out of 30 players, at least 12 would be forwards, they no longer think he is needed going forward.
The reason for this, is either they can see his performance deteriorating or as in McQueen is carrying injuries.
He is a solid hard working forward, he is not a Burgess, hargraves etc
No, i don't think he will be a Packer.
I do think that in the next 12 mths 2or 3 of our young players will at least be his equal . and we will need the money to keep them.
This is why he is the wrong signing.

They're trying to keep him - Bellamy is trying to find the salary cap room to offer him a good deal

Well....if Storm are trying to keep him and trying to find the $$$....we definitely want him then :joy: :joy: :joy:

 

[BZN]

We have to get real regarding Finnucane,
Storm are excellent at keeping a top class roster, and removing dead wood.
Out of 30 players, at least 12 would be forwards, they no longer think he is needed going forward.
The reason for this, is either they can see his performance deteriorating or as in McQueen is carrying injuries.
He is a solid hard working forward, he is not a Burgess, hargraves etc
No, i don't think he will be a Packer.
I do think that in the next 12 mths 2or 3 of our young players will at least be his equal . and we will need the money to keep them.
This is why he is the wrong signing.

They're trying to keep him - Bellamy is trying to find the salary cap room to offer him a good deal

And the money, and length of contract , will be a lot less then what the dummies will offer.

Of course, and that might be the reason he leaves. He will get more money elsewhere

And there will be clubs silly enough to to do this, i hope we are not that club. Panic signings have cost us big time.

We haven't panic signed anyone since Cleary did the dirty on Us and skedaddled though.

 

[BAGNF05]

We have to get real regarding Finnucane,
Storm are excellent at keeping a top class roster, and removing dead wood.
Out of 30 players, at least 12 would be forwards, they no longer think he is needed going forward.
The reason for this, is either they can see his performance deteriorating or as in McQueen is carrying injuries.
He is a solid hard working forward, he is not a Burgess, hargraves etc
No, i don't think he will be a Packer.
I do think that in the next 12 mths 2or 3 of our young players will at least be his equal . and we will need the money to keep them.
This is why he is the wrong signing.

They're trying to keep him - Bellamy is trying to find the salary cap room to offer him a good deal

And the money, and length of contract , will be a lot less then what the dummies will offer.

Of course, and that might be the reason he leaves. He will get more money elsewhere

And there will be clubs silly enough to to do this, i hope we are not that club. Panic signings have cost us big time.

We haven't panic signed anyone since Cleary did the dirty on Us and skedaddled though.

BJ would count here.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

We have to get real regarding Finnucane,
Storm are excellent at keeping a top class roster, and removing dead wood.
Out of 30 players, at least 12 would be forwards, they no longer think he is needed going forward.
The reason for this, is either they can see his performance deteriorating or as in McQueen is carrying injuries.
He is a solid hard working forward, he is not a Burgess, hargraves etc
No, i don't think he will be a Packer.
I do think that in the next 12 mths 2or 3 of our young players will at least be his equal . and we will need the money to keep them.
This is why he is the wrong signing.

They're trying to keep him - Bellamy is trying to find the salary cap room to offer him a good deal

And the money, and length of contract , will be a lot less then what the dummies will offer.

Of course, and that might be the reason he leaves. He will get more money elsewhere

And there will be clubs silly enough to to do this, i hope we are not that club. Panic signings have cost us big time.

We haven't panic signed anyone since Cleary did the dirty on Us and skedaddled though.

BJ would count here.

Would it though. For form at the time and the limited contract span the club was smart with this one. Sure it went a bit pear shaped but with the information on hand at the time it was a good signing.

 

[BZN]

We are not going anywhere this year, Pangi and others can be signed for next year, if needed. More concerned , with buying backup centre and FB. Still a major weakness in my mind.

G'day @sleeve I feel by this time next year Our bute little fullback Laurie will be a vastly improved player.
And with the addition of a couple of blokes that actually know how to tackle to assist him, we're gonna see him scoot thru for umpteen try's.

 

[BAGNF05]

We have to get real regarding Finnucane,
Storm are excellent at keeping a top class roster, and removing dead wood.
Out of 30 players, at least 12 would be forwards, they no longer think he is needed going forward.
The reason for this, is either they can see his performance deteriorating or as in McQueen is carrying injuries.
He is a solid hard working forward, he is not a Burgess, hargraves etc
No, i don't think he will be a Packer.
I do think that in the next 12 mths 2or 3 of our young players will at least be his equal . and we will need the money to keep them.
This is why he is the wrong signing.

They're trying to keep him - Bellamy is trying to find the salary cap room to offer him a good deal

And the money, and length of contract , will be a lot less then what the dummies will offer.

Of course, and that might be the reason he leaves. He will get more money elsewhere

And there will be clubs silly enough to to do this, i hope we are not that club. Panic signings have cost us big time.

We haven't panic signed anyone since Cleary did the dirty on Us and skedaddled though.

BJ would count here.

Would it though. For form at the time and the limited contract span the club was smart with this one. Sure it went a bit pear shaped but with the information on hand at the time it was a good signing.

Disagree strongly, has had drama follow him throughout his career, can’t keep the weight off, struck up a nice combo with Rapana for a year or two but on the balance of his career he’s been a disappointment.

Ricky was off him for discipline, Wests Tigers need discipline. We keep signing guys thinking we can change them. We can’t.

Edit: and if we jag TPJ I’ll be saying similar in 2 yrs.

 

[BZN]

Having read through numerous pages and not found actual news on signings, my view on the topics I saw covered

We need to improve what we have.

I would take Finucane for 4 years, but not at the annual figure being suggested. Even as he goes downhill he should be able to be support piece around what is hopefully a developing young pack. Need to look at recruiting Souths Dr so that medical retirement can be an option if we are stuck with a contract and a player fading away.

I am not willing to bag Tamou, I think he is going alright. Will not play big minutes, but does bend the line and get quick play the balls. We need to find more support around him & more impact off the bench/better rotation. Our go forward seems to stagnate during stages of the game with backs not suited being asked to make dirty hit-ups. The number of times I have seen hit-ups from Laurie & JTJ should have our pack embarrassed.

I am not sure the academy at Campbelltown will be a great help. It is a positive and shows engagement with the area, but the biggest problem out here has always been politics and nepotism in the junior leagues. We need to ensure that the best players are taken into the academy & not those with links to particular people and the junior clubs they are involved with.

I am starting to wonder whether the media is playing with us? We are progressing with TPJ and the media calls out he is not what we need need professionalism. Club stops and pivots to Finucane & then the media calls out that he is too old. It could well be that they are just throwing opinions out & in reality have no idea what the club is doing.

We need to be looking at edge players (2nd row/centre) as I think that is the area where we have the least depth.

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Edit : I liked your remark about the Souths Dr. and medical retirement :grin: but you forgot to mention the Souths Dr. and the possible apparent scripts for particular players, or a particular player :angry:

 

[cochise]

We have to get real regarding Finnucane,
Storm are excellent at keeping a top class roster, and removing dead wood.
Out of 30 players, at least 12 would be forwards, they no longer think he is needed going forward.
The reason for this, is either they can see his performance deteriorating or as in McQueen is carrying injuries.
He is a solid hard working forward, he is not a Burgess, hargraves etc
No, i don't think he will be a Packer.
I do think that in the next 12 mths 2or 3 of our young players will at least be his equal . and we will need the money to keep them.
This is why he is the wrong signing.

They're trying to keep him - Bellamy is trying to find the salary cap room to offer him a good deal

And the money, and length of contract , will be a lot less then what the dummies will offer.

Of course, and that might be the reason he leaves. He will get more money elsewhere

And there will be clubs silly enough to to do this, i hope we are not that club. Panic signings have cost us big time.

We haven't panic signed anyone since Cleary did the dirty on Us and skedaddled though.

BJ would count here.

Would it though. For form at the time and the limited contract span the club was smart with this one. Sure it went a bit pear shaped but with the information on hand at the time it was a good signing.

Disagree strongly, has had drama follow him throughout his career, can’t keep the weight off, struck up a nice combo with Rapana for a year or two but on the balance of his career he’s been a disappointment.

Ricky was off him for discipline, Wests Tigers need discipline. We keep signing guys thinking we can change them. We can’t.

See I get signings like BJ and Roberts, our salary cap was still in a mess and we were targeting youth. The signings of both BJ and Roberts were a calculated risk to win now that wouldn't damage our future. They didn't work out but I understand the reasoning.

 

[BAGNF05]

We have to get real regarding Finnucane,
Storm are excellent at keeping a top class roster, and removing dead wood.
Out of 30 players, at least 12 would be forwards, they no longer think he is needed going forward.
The reason for this, is either they can see his performance deteriorating or as in McQueen is carrying injuries.
He is a solid hard working forward, he is not a Burgess, hargraves etc
No, i don't think he will be a Packer.
I do think that in the next 12 mths 2or 3 of our young players will at least be his equal . and we will need the money to keep them.
This is why he is the wrong signing.

They're trying to keep him - Bellamy is trying to find the salary cap room to offer him a good deal

And the money, and length of contract , will be a lot less then what the dummies will offer.

Of course, and that might be the reason he leaves. He will get more money elsewhere

And there will be clubs silly enough to to do this, i hope we are not that club. Panic signings have cost us big time.

We haven't panic signed anyone since Cleary did the dirty on Us and skedaddled though.

BJ would count here.

Would it though. For form at the time and the limited contract span the club was smart with this one. Sure it went a bit pear shaped but with the information on hand at the time it was a good signing.

Disagree strongly, has had drama follow him throughout his career, can’t keep the weight off, struck up a nice combo with Rapana for a year or two but on the balance of his career he’s been a disappointment.

Ricky was off him for discipline, Wests Tigers need discipline. We keep signing guys thinking we can change them. We can’t.

See I get signings like BJ and Roberts, our salary cap was still in a mess and we were targeting youth. The signings of both BJ and Roberts were a calculated risk to win now that wouldn't damage our future. They didn't work out but I understand the reasoning.

We paid good coin for BJ, I’d rather see us bring in a guy with some leadership to change a culture that is clearly lacking. We got what we knew we were buying.

JTJ to a lesser extent because he was cheap. But now that it’s failed I can still see us giving him another year. We just don’t learn.

 

[cochise]

We have to get real regarding Finnucane,
Storm are excellent at keeping a top class roster, and removing dead wood.
Out of 30 players, at least 12 would be forwards, they no longer think he is needed going forward.
The reason for this, is either they can see his performance deteriorating or as in McQueen is carrying injuries.
He is a solid hard working forward, he is not a Burgess, hargraves etc
No, i don't think he will be a Packer.
I do think that in the next 12 mths 2or 3 of our young players will at least be his equal . and we will need the money to keep them.
This is why he is the wrong signing.

They're trying to keep him - Bellamy is trying to find the salary cap room to offer him a good deal

And the money, and length of contract , will be a lot less then what the dummies will offer.

Of course, and that might be the reason he leaves. He will get more money elsewhere

And there will be clubs silly enough to to do this, i hope we are not that club. Panic signings have cost us big time.

We haven't panic signed anyone since Cleary did the dirty on Us and skedaddled though.

BJ would count here.

Would it though. For form at the time and the limited contract span the club was smart with this one. Sure it went a bit pear shaped but with the information on hand at the time it was a good signing.

Disagree strongly, has had drama follow him throughout his career, can’t keep the weight off, struck up a nice combo with Rapana for a year or two but on the balance of his career he’s been a disappointment.

Ricky was off him for discipline, Wests Tigers need discipline. We keep signing guys thinking we can change them. We can’t.

See I get signings like BJ and Roberts, our salary cap was still in a mess and we were targeting youth. The signings of both BJ and Roberts were a calculated risk to win now that wouldn't damage our future. They didn't work out but I understand the reasoning.

We paid good coin for BJ, I’d rather see us bring in a guy with some leadership to change a culture that is clearly lacking. We got what we knew we were buying.

JTJ to a lesser extent because he was cheap. But now that it’s failed I can still see us giving him another year. We just don’t learn.

The thing is, especially this year, the BJ signing didn't prevent us from signing someone else. It was a signing with a finite end point if it didn't work out. In the padt we would have still signed him but signed him for 4 years ruining our cap in the process.

He was a gamble to try and get a young squad with its highest paid players playing reserves into the finals last year, while we wait for reinforcements.

 

[BAGNF05]

We have to get real regarding Finnucane,
Storm are excellent at keeping a top class roster, and removing dead wood.
Out of 30 players, at least 12 would be forwards, they no longer think he is needed going forward.
The reason for this, is either they can see his performance deteriorating or as in McQueen is carrying injuries.
He is a solid hard working forward, he is not a Burgess, hargraves etc
No, i don't think he will be a Packer.
I do think that in the next 12 mths 2or 3 of our young players will at least be his equal . and we will need the money to keep them.
This is why he is the wrong signing.

They're trying to keep him - Bellamy is trying to find the salary cap room to offer him a good deal

And the money, and length of contract , will be a lot less then what the dummies will offer.

Of course, and that might be the reason he leaves. He will get more money elsewhere

And there will be clubs silly enough to to do this, i hope we are not that club. Panic signings have cost us big time.

We haven't panic signed anyone since Cleary did the dirty on Us and skedaddled though.

BJ would count here.

Would it though. For form at the time and the limited contract span the club was smart with this one. Sure it went a bit pear shaped but with the information on hand at the time it was a good signing.

Disagree strongly, has had drama follow him throughout his career, can’t keep the weight off, struck up a nice combo with Rapana for a year or two but on the balance of his career he’s been a disappointment.

Ricky was off him for discipline, Wests Tigers need discipline. We keep signing guys thinking we can change them. We can’t.

See I get signings like BJ and Roberts, our salary cap was still in a mess and we were targeting youth. The signings of both BJ and Roberts were a calculated risk to win now that wouldn't damage our future. They didn't work out but I understand the reasoning.

We paid good coin for BJ, I’d rather see us bring in a guy with some leadership to change a culture that is clearly lacking. We got what we knew we were buying.

JTJ to a lesser extent because he was cheap. But now that it’s failed I can still see us giving him another year. We just don’t learn.

The thing is, especially this year, the BJ signing didn't prevent us from signing someone else. It was a signing with a finite end point if it didn't work out. In the padt we would have still signed him but signed him for 4 years ruining our cap in the process.

He was a gamble to try and get a young squad with its highest paid players playing reserves into the finals last year, while we wait for reinforcements.

I get that logic but his personality is so not what we needed. Would the strong clubs make those sorts of gambles? TPJ is another one, we aren’t maturing in recruiting.

 

[BZN]

Looks like we **missed out again** and have all this cash to spend and no none wants it...
So does our focus turn to upgrading some of the current guys and promoting development players ??
Its hard been a Tigers supporter and they say there is Ups and Downs.... Just waiting for the Up's as it been 10 years. We are a joke

Missed out on what again?

TPJ but not just him....
It's not a coincidence that we seem to be involved in negotiations with players but they always seem to go elsewhere and its like we are just a bargaining tool. People might not agree or like it but until we actually get a big signing that is what we are.
Its a shame as we have so much potential as a club and have a massive fan base. We are building very well from the ground up and adding a lot of pieces off the field but at the end of the day if you don't win on the field you just don't win.

We didn't miss out on TPJ HSVJ, seems like he is staying with the Broncos.
Our financial blokes have to talk to any players we may be interested in, but if they aren't prepared to accept what we think is reasonable $$$ to play for Us, again we haven't missed out.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Rumour that Quentin Tarantino to direct a movie about our recent history called "The Hateful Eight 2". Thankfully not "Nofo Unchained".

Not long finished watching the blizzard struck coach house and then spot this.

 

[BZN]

Liam Martin is a guy I’ll be going for aggressively, there’s your young Finucane

When you say "I'll be going for aggressively"...does that mean you are going to pay the $$$ for him and donate him to Our Club? :hugging_face: :slightly_smiling_face:

 

[BAGNF05]

Liam Martin is a guy I’ll be going for aggressively, there’s your young Finucane

When you say "I'll be going for aggressively"...does that mean you are going to pay the $$$ for him and donate him to Our Club? :hugging_face: :slightly_smiling_face:

Hell be mowing lawns at Penrith park because he’s got 2 more years there. ?