Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Elderslie_Tiger]

It's being reported that Storm have tabled a 2.2m 3 year deal for Brandon Smith with Roosters being interested (didn't see that coming) WT'S should make an offer of $850 per season to put pressure on the salary cap of both Storm & Rorters the guy is an out & champion and possible future leader of a club

Would need to be north of a million imo for him to consider us. And he's worth that.

Possibly would need to offer a 4th year as well to sweeten the deal. I'm generally not for 4yr deals at all however on this occasion and given his age he's probably worth it.

I agree, i'd have no issues with offering a 4th year if that was the difference between getting him or not.

WT'S could do it quite comfortably when you consider we've carried Packer for 3 years and his only shinning light in that time was knocking Matterson out.Mbye & Packer will be gone so there has to at least $1.5 m available in the cap.Tim Sheens your moment to become an instant WT'S Immortal go get him Tim.

 

[Geo]

Expect position 30 to be filled in the next 48hours

Unless the NRL extend due to the covids..

 

[TigerVinnie]

It's being reported that Storm have tabled a 2.2m 3 year deal for Brandon Smith with Roosters being interested (didn't see that coming) WT'S should make an offer of $850 per season to put pressure on the salary cap of both Storm & Rorters the guy is an out & champion and possible future leader of a club

Would need to be north of a million imo for him to consider us. And he's worth that.

Possibly would need to offer a 4th year as well to sweeten the deal. I'm generally not for 4yr deals at all however on this occasion and given his age he's probably worth it.

I agree, i'd have no issues with offering a 4th year if that was the difference between getting him or not.

WT'S could do it quite comfortably when you consider we've carried Packer for 3 years and his only shinning light in that time was knocking Matterson out.Mbye & Packer will be gone so there has to at least $1.5 m available in the cap.Tim Sheens your moment to become an instant WT'S Immortal go get him Tim.

But then we essentially spend majority of our free cap space this year on a position we have 2 decent and upcoming hookers already. Leaving us with little to nothing left to target quality outside backs/second row a position we desperately need quality.

If we had already signed some decent centres (ala Lomax) and a good second rower then I would be all for throwing everything else we have left at Brandon Smith, but as much as I like him we have bigger priorities.

 

[ConePuncher]

Expect position 30 to be filled in the next 48hours

Do you know who it will be @Harvey ?

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

It's being reported that Storm have tabled a 2.2m 3 year deal for Brandon Smith with Roosters being interested (didn't see that coming) WT'S should make an offer of $850 per season to put pressure on the salary cap of both Storm & Rorters the guy is an out & champion and possible future leader of a club

Would need to be north of a million imo for him to consider us. And he's worth that.

Possibly would need to offer a 4th year as well to sweeten the deal. I'm generally not for 4yr deals at all however on this occasion and given his age he's probably worth it.

I agree, i'd have no issues with offering a 4th year if that was the difference between getting him or not.

WT'S could do it quite comfortably when you consider we've carried Packer for 3 years and his only shinning light in that time was knocking Matterson out.Mbye & Packer will be gone so there has to at least $1.5 m available in the cap.Tim Sheens your moment to become an instant WT'S Immortal go get him Tim.

But then we essentially spend majority of our free cap space this year on a position we have 2 decent and upcoming hookers already. Leaving us with little to nothing left to target quality outside backs/second row a position we desperately need quality.

If we had already signed some decent centres (ala Lomax) and a good second rower then I would be all for throwing everything else we have left at Brandon Smith, but as much as I like him we have bigger priorities.

REALLY it won't happen until the end of 2022 a lot of things can happen and a lot of movement and WT'S have basically been playing a man short for the last 3 years with Packer in our top 30

 

[sleeve]

I can understand the not paying overs, to a certain extent only. The market always dictates the players worth. Sometimes you can't be too rigid. Maybe just one key player, could change our future and in that regard, and the fact that we cannot appear to spend our money elswhere, what options do we have?
People like Lomax, Cheese or Scott though all unlikely to come would be a small risk.

 

[Kelce68]

I can understand the not paying overs, to a certain extent only. The market always dictates the players worth. Sometimes you can't be too rigid. Maybe just one key player, could change our future and in that regard, and the fact that we cannot appear to spend our money elswhere, what options do we have?
People like Lomax, Cheese or Scott though all unlikely to come would be a small risk.

Agree, it's a good mantra, but must operate on a case-by-case basis.

 

[WT46]

POM or cctw update soon? Deadline day is around the corner..

 

[phil1986]

Expect position 30 to be filled in the next 48hours

Well played 😂

 

[Needaname]

I can understand the not paying overs, to a certain extent only. The market always dictates the players worth. Sometimes you can't be too rigid. Maybe just one key player, could change our future and in that regard, and the fact that we cannot appear to spend our money elswhere, what options do we have?
People like Lomax, Cheese or Scott though all unlikely to come would be a small risk.

Watching Gallens comments on 100% footy and also the thoughts of Freddy and Joey on Freddy and the Eight. They tackled the recruitment question once again with us. Gallen did say we need to get that first signing by paying a little bit more but when discussing why Finucane chose the sharks he basically implied with are a club that has no real projection of being finalists anytime soon.
“Finucane has won premierships, so money may come into it but he is also a competitor” as such he wants to be challenged and go to a competitive club, and the sharks look to be building into one”.
Roughly quoted.
Also roughly quoted.
“There are two types of choices a player makes when they are deciding on a club depending on their age and status in the game.”
“When you are starting out as a player, you want to go to a club that can give you the most game time, so you go to a club that has a weakness in your position so you can get maximum game time etc. Another time you decide is when you’ve done a bit in your career but maybe haven’t enjoyed the success’ that come with it, you want to be involved in a strong club with a good rep profile where getting game time is offset by being involved in a set up that is going to be competitive and provide exposure to representative chances.”

Something along those lines.

 

[tony soprano]

Expect position 30 to be filled in the next 48hours

Do you know who it will be @Harvey ?

Lol they have to

 

[BalmainJnr]

I can understand the not paying overs, to a certain extent only. The market always dictates the players worth. Sometimes you can't be too rigid. Maybe just one key player, could change our future and in that regard, and the fact that we cannot appear to spend our money elswhere, what options do we have?
People like Lomax, Cheese or Scott though all unlikely to come would be a small risk.

Watching Gallens comments on 100% footy and also the thoughts of Freddy and Joey on Freddy and the Eight. They tackled the recruitment question once again with us. Gallen did say we need to get that first signing by paying a little bit more but when discussing why Finucane chose the sharks he basically implied with are a club that has no real projection of being finalists anytime soon.
“Finucane has won premierships, so money may come into it but he is also a competitor” as such he wants to be challenged and go to a competitive club, and the sharks look to be building into one”.
Roughly quoted.
Also roughly quoted.
“There are two types of choices a player makes when they are deciding on a club depending on their age and status in the game.”
“When you are starting out as a player, you want to go to a club that can give you the most game time, so you go to a club that has a weakness in your position so you can get maximum game time etc. Another time you decide is when you’ve done a bit in your career but maybe haven’t enjoyed the success’ that come with it, you want to be involved in a strong club with a good rep profile where getting game time is offset by being involved in a set up that is going to be competitive and provide exposure to representative chances.”

Something along those lines.

I would have thought getting the four years that he wanted (that no one else was offering him) got the Sharks over the line.

 

[tony soprano]

I can understand the not paying overs, to a certain extent only. The market always dictates the players worth. Sometimes you can't be too rigid. Maybe just one key player, could change our future and in that regard, and the fact that we cannot appear to spend our money elswhere, what options do we have?
People like Lomax, Cheese or Scott though all unlikely to come would be a small risk.

Watching Gallens comments on 100% footy and also the thoughts of Freddy and Joey on Freddy and the Eight. They tackled the recruitment question once again with us. Gallen did say we need to get that first signing by paying a little bit more but when discussing why Finucane chose the sharks he basically implied with are a club that has no real projection of being finalists anytime soon.
“Finucane has won premierships, so money may come into it but he is also a competitor” as such he wants to be challenged and go to a competitive club, and the sharks look to be building into one”.
Roughly quoted.
Also roughly quoted.
“There are two types of choices a player makes when they are deciding on a club depending on their age and status in the game.”
“When you are starting out as a player, you want to go to a club that can give you the most game time, so you go to a club that has a weakness in your position so you can get maximum game time etc. Another time you decide is when you’ve done a bit in your career but maybe haven’t enjoyed the success’ that come with it, you want to be involved in a strong club with a good rep profile where getting game time is offset by being involved in a set up that is going to be competitive and provide exposure to representative chances.”

Something along those lines.

Wouldn't mind gal as a forwards coach

 

[hsvjones]

I can understand the not paying overs, to a certain extent only. The market always dictates the players worth. Sometimes you can't be too rigid. Maybe just one key player, could change our future and in that regard, and the fact that we cannot appear to spend our money elswhere, what options do we have?
People like Lomax, Cheese or Scott though all unlikely to come would be a small risk.

Watching Gallens comments on 100% footy and also the thoughts of Freddy and Joey on Freddy and the Eight. They tackled the recruitment question once again with us. Gallen did say we need to get that first signing by paying a little bit more but when discussing why Finucane chose the sharks he basically implied with are a club that has no real projection of being finalists anytime soon.
“Finucane has won premierships, so money may come into it but he is also a competitor” as such he wants to be challenged and go to a competitive club, and the sharks look to be building into one”.
Roughly quoted.
Also roughly quoted.
“There are two types of choices a player makes when they are deciding on a club depending on their age and status in the game.”
“When you are starting out as a player, you want to go to a club that can give you the most game time, so you go to a club that has a weakness in your position so you can get maximum game time etc. Another time you decide is when you’ve done a bit in your career but maybe haven’t enjoyed the success’ that come with it, you want to be involved in a strong club with a good rep profile where getting game time is offset by being involved in a set up that is going to be competitive and provide exposure to representative chances.”

Something along those lines.

I would have thought getting the four years that he wanted (that no one else was offering him) got the Sharks over the line.

If that was us offering a 4 year deal we would be shot down for it and how irresponsible it would be... But Sharks its a great move of course due to the coach that has ties with the SOO team and Gallen.. Media have there fav and there punching bag team

 

[balmain boy]

It would take some sort of offer to get either of the Butcher boys. The family is rusted on Roosters.

We've plenty of money and no excuse not to have him signed.

What a ridiculous comment. They gave a great relationship with the Roosters and won't go anywhere if they are looked after where they are no matter what we offer.

If we cannot get him, our recruitment is in serious trouble.

Our recruitment is clearly struggling, but opinions like this are ridiculous. Poaching players from clubs with which they have strong ties is not easy, particularly when they have a first grade spot and their club is successful. Keep setting stupid expectations though so you can justify continually bashing the club.

But if he doesn't have a spot in their lineup then he'll go. Is he going to be starting there anytime soon? Is he likely to pay more than 20-30 mins? With Crichton, Toupinoua, Radley ahead of him for starters, plus his brother. There just isn't room for them all.

Is he going to hang around hoping a teammate gets injured?

 

[851]

It would take some sort of offer to get either of the Butcher boys. The family is rusted on Roosters.

We've plenty of money and no excuse not to have him signed.

What a ridiculous comment. They gave a great relationship with the Roosters and won't go anywhere if they are looked after where they are no matter what we offer.

If we cannot get him, our recruitment is in serious trouble.

Our recruitment is clearly struggling, but opinions like this are ridiculous. Poaching players from clubs with which they have strong ties is not easy, particularly when they have a first grade spot and their club is successful. Keep setting stupid expectations though so you can justify continually bashing the club.

But if he doesn't have a spot in their lineup then he'll go. Is he going to be starting there anytime soon? Is he likely to pay more than 20-30 mins? With Crichton, Toupinoua, Radley after of him for starters, plus his brother. There just isn't room for them all.

Is he going to hang around hoping a teammate gets injured?

100% mate, if he has designs on being a starter he needs to move clubs

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

I can understand the not paying overs, to a certain extent only. The market always dictates the players worth. Sometimes you can't be too rigid. Maybe just one key player, could change our future and in that regard, and the fact that we cannot appear to spend our money elswhere, what options do we have?
People like Lomax, Cheese or Scott though all unlikely to come would be a small risk.

Watching Gallens comments on 100% footy and also the thoughts of Freddy and Joey on Freddy and the Eight. They tackled the recruitment question once again with us. Gallen did say we need to get that first signing by paying a little bit more but when discussing why Finucane chose the sharks he basically implied with are a club that has no real projection of being finalists anytime soon.
“Finucane has won premierships, so money may come into it but he is also a competitor” as such he wants to be challenged and go to a competitive club, and the sharks look to be building into one”.
Roughly quoted.
Also roughly quoted.
“There are two types of choices a player makes when they are deciding on a club depending on their age and status in the game.”
“When you are starting out as a player, you want to go to a club that can give you the most game time, so you go to a club that has a weakness in your position so you can get maximum game time etc. Another time you decide is when you’ve done a bit in your career but maybe haven’t enjoyed the success’ that come with it, you want to be involved in a strong club with a good rep profile where getting game time is offset by being involved in a set up that is going to be competitive and provide exposure to representative chances.”

Something along those lines.

Wouldn't mind gal as a forwards coach

He would put some Pep into the side?????

 

[TheDaBoss]

Grant and brandon...sheesh

 

[pawsandclaws1]

It would take some sort of offer to get either of the Butcher boys. The family is rusted on Roosters.

We've plenty of money and no excuse not to have him signed.

What a ridiculous comment. They gave a great relationship with the Roosters and won't go anywhere if they are looked after where they are no matter what we offer.

If we cannot get him, our recruitment is in serious trouble.

Our recruitment is clearly struggling, but opinions like this are ridiculous. Poaching players from clubs with which they have strong ties is not easy, particularly when they have a first grade spot and their club is successful. Keep setting stupid expectations though so you can justify continually bashing the club.

It is not an unreasonable expectation that a regular NRL starting position is sufficient motivation to move together with an offer which reflects his talent. Being a tier down from NRL recruits we don't appear to be able to secure, I wouldn't have believed this to be ridiculous at all. The last thing we need is a further lowering of expectations of the club's capacity to recruit at this level.

 

[getagrip]

Did you guys read the article the other day in the Hearld.
In it were quotes from Pascoe, drawing a line in the sand regarding our approach to recruitment.
It’s out there now. It’s no longer something us forumers know through inside words.

“Tigers will not pay overs or panic buy.”

It might be a risky direction but I’m glad the club has made a stance and also have let it be known.

It’s not that risky IMO once the player managers get over it. That could take 6 months or 3 years who knows but as other forumers have mentioned, if we have millions in the cap with a positive work ethic, eventually the players will come. I just think the club needs to survive the myopic negativity in the mean time with agitators in the media etc.

Great post mate, as a club and fans we need to stay the course.

I would rather wait for the club to tell us something, rather than believe some of the BS thrown around in the media. I know I am not prepared to be critical of the club based on media/forum "speculation"