Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[BalmainJnr]

Paddy Steinfort would be an excellent signing for this club.

 

[frullens]

@Aubanon what’s the latest on Jordan Hill?

The Tigers never followed through with their intended meeting.

So he's moved on.

Very disappointing to hear.
Thanks for the update.

?

Made way for Sheensy

The post is regarding young player Jordan Hill.

Not the staff.

Yes. The cash for Jordan Hill (whoever that is) was used for Sheensy.

I don't think it works like that ?

Unless sheensy is going to also run around in jersey flegg ?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Just remembered that Hodgson and Hastings played together for the Lions in 2019. That’ll be handy with combinations.

Hastings is a GB international but has never been able to secure a starting NRL position. It is purely coincidence of course!

Hastings turn is it?

When has he ever secured a starting NRL position?

Mate this is a ridiculous argument. He's been over in Super League, therefore unable to secure a starting spot. Not fair at all.

When he was in the NRL he was young and inexperienced, and if you've watched him play since then you'd realise the absurdity of your argument. He's an NRL standard half.

He had been to what three NRL clubs prior to going to the UK because no club wanted anything to do with him. The revision of history surrounding Hastings does not surprise me at all. There were many halves which were young and inexperienced yet handled the NRL but Hasting could not. That in itself should be enough of an indicator.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Just remembered that Hodgson and Hastings played together for the Lions in 2019. That’ll be handy with combinations.

Hastings is a GB international but has never been able to secure a starting NRL position. It is purely coincidence of course!

Hastings turn is it?

When has he ever secured a starting NRL position?

Mate this is a ridiculous argument. He's been over in Super League, therefore unable to secure a starting spot. Not fair at all.

When he was in the NRL he was young and inexperienced, and if you've watched him play since then you'd realise the absurdity of your argument. He's an NRL standard half.

He’s playing in a second rate competition. Stop treating it like he’s been playing against NRL calibre opposition.

 

[fibrodreaming]

@Aubanon what’s the latest on Jordan Hill?

The Tigers never followed through with their intended meeting.

So he's moved on.

I’m sure Adam hartigan was meant to be at that meeting

Correct. Very disappointed at this outcome. We've let a good kid go because of one staff member's naivety.

What do you mean by naive @willow ?
Do you mean Adam Hartigan stood them up at the meeting?

Without speaking out of line, I was informed Hartigan intended to sit down with the family to discuss Jordan's situation, as he apparently caught the club by surprise with signing a letter of intent with the MacKay Cutters. I don't think WT thought he seriously entertained the idea of leaving, but WT made little to no attempt to keep him. Hartigan wasn't aware of any commentary made towards Jordan by Fita Hala so there was a communication breakdown at that level, and then Hartigan never bothered to follow through with the meeting with Jordan's family.

Disappointing and unprofessional which typifies so many aspects of this club.

That's disappointing.
Seems strange because Hartigan has been highly rated by some on here that I respect their opinion such as @cochise but then you hear stories like this and others about missed meetings and emails.
I remember Kenty speaking in code - but seem to suggest Hartigan was out of his depth and wasn't senior enough. Also suggested that Madge had to do to many jobs to cover for others who weren't doing there's.

Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Hopefully they made the right decision

There is something of a pattern emerging here.

One of our posters with good information on our junior systems told us yesterday that a number of our young stars are still waiting for the paperwork to secure them for next year, and that we are in danger of losing them.

Now this information about the young winger who wanted to stay but the recruitment team couldn't be bothered meeting him and his family, so he is going north.

We all remember the stuff up with McIntyre last year. Madge told him he wanted to keep him, but we didn't give him an offer, so he accepted an offer from the Titans. Madge was shocked when Macca told him.

All these instances, in addition to our dealings with TPJ and JAC, leaves a smell of incompetence around our recruitment processes and team. It's hard to believe that things can get worse under the new arrangements.

 

[tigerman 0]

Just remembered that Hodgson and Hastings played together for the Lions in 2019. That’ll be handy with combinations.

Hastings is a GB international but has never been able to secure a starting NRL position. It is purely coincidence of course!

Hastings turn is it?

When has he ever secured a starting NRL position?

Mate this is a ridiculous argument. He's been over in Super League, therefore unable to secure a starting spot. Not fair at all.

When he was in the NRL he was young and inexperienced, and if you've watched him play since then you'd realise the absurdity of your argument. He's an NRL standard half.

He’s playing in a second rate competition. Stop treating it like he’s been playing against NRL calibre opposition.

You’re one of the most negative people ive ever come across

 

[240z]

I've heard zero from the club about Hodgson being chased. So what that says to me is that when he stays a Raider or moves to Gold Coast, it will be yet another baseless story about how Wests Tigers botched the signing.

When Journo's start interviewing and quoting other journo's as if it's fact, it's time for the funny farm.

It is the other side of the story that gets too me. Liddle is a very fine player and a loyal WT. I believe he is a captain in waiting at WTs. He is articulate and presents well. He has made an amazing recovery from a very serious knee injury. Injuries of this type take a long time to overcome. I know this as my brother in law was a physio at two former first grade clubs. These posts which want to move him on are in very poor form.

I like and respect Liddle. For tigers to be top eight we need above average players. Is he in the top 4-8 hookers? I personally think he’s reached his ceiling hence the whole not in the future plans talk.

Josh Hodgson hasn't been in the top 4-8 hookers for the past two years, and sure as hell isn't going to be in two years' time.

Josh Hodgson is an international hooker. Are you kidding me?


Would he play for Australia?

He's British though isn't he? So no he wouldn't play for Australia. Also if the prerequisite for signing a 9 to our club is that they are the Australian hooker we'll be waiting a while.


The implication in saying “Josh Hodgson is an international hooker, are you kidding me?” is suggesting that representing England is as big of an achievement and as impressive as being an Australian international. It’s nowhere near the same. How much competition would he have for that jersey? As good as he was at his peak, he would not have come close to an Origin or Australian jersey. Any other rep jumper doesn’t carry the same significance as a lot of average players represent other nations because they simply aren’t as strong.

England is hardly a minnow though. The last world cup final was England v Australia, and it was a hard fought 6-0 match, and their forward pack was at least as good as ours.

If Liddle was a Pom and they were picking a squad now, there's no way England would be picking him over Hodgson.

So many Liddle haters, did he bullied them at kindergarden?:thinking_face:

Liddle would be our fastest player I think ?

James Roberts

Even Brooks maybe

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Just remembered that Hodgson and Hastings played together for the Lions in 2019. That’ll be handy with combinations.

Hastings is a GB international but has never been able to secure a starting NRL position. It is purely coincidence of course!

Hastings turn is it?

When has he ever secured a starting NRL position?

Mate this is a ridiculous argument. He's been over in Super League, therefore unable to secure a starting spot. Not fair at all.

When he was in the NRL he was young and inexperienced, and if you've watched him play since then you'd realise the absurdity of your argument. He's an NRL standard half.

He’s playing in a second rate competition. Stop treating it like he’s been playing against NRL calibre opposition.

You’re one of the most negative people ive ever come across

What’s negative about something that’s the truth?

 

[Kelce68]

Just remembered that Hodgson and Hastings played together for the Lions in 2019. That’ll be handy with combinations.

Hastings is a GB international but has never been able to secure a starting NRL position. It is purely coincidence of course!

Hastings turn is it?

When has he ever secured a starting NRL position?

Mate this is a ridiculous argument. He's been over in Super League, therefore unable to secure a starting spot. Not fair at all.

When he was in the NRL he was young and inexperienced, and if you've watched him play since then you'd realise the absurdity of your argument. He's an NRL standard half.

He had been to what three NRL clubs prior to going to the UK because no club wanted anything to do with him. The revision of history surrounding Hastings does not surprise me at all. There were many halves which were young and inexperienced yet handled the NRL but Hasting could not. That in itself should be enough of an indicator.

He played close to 50 NRL games, so effectively two full seasons. Left at 22, reportedly due to attitude problems, does that constitute 'not handling the NRL'?

Also, who exactly were the 'many halves' that handled the nrl prior to this age?

 

[2005magic]

Just remembered that Hodgson and Hastings played together for the Lions in 2019. That’ll be handy with combinations.

Hastings is a GB international but has never been able to secure a starting NRL position. It is purely coincidence of course!

Hastings turn is it?

When has he ever secured a starting NRL position?

Mate this is a ridiculous argument. He's been over in Super League, therefore unable to secure a starting spot. Not fair at all.

When he was in the NRL he was young and inexperienced, and if you've watched him play since then you'd realise the absurdity of your argument. He's an NRL standard half.

He had been to what three NRL clubs prior to going to the UK because no club wanted anything to do with him. The revision of history surrounding Hastings does not surprise me at all. There were many halves which were young and inexperienced yet handled the NRL but Hasting could not. That in itself should be enough of an indicator.

Alright I get it you dont like him. At least let him get on the field and work with the club before ou condemn him for this time. Yes, he was a young d**head but that was then we can only judge that since going to England and the ESL he has sorted himself out and is playing well. Everyone has a chance of redemption and hasnt he earnt it with his actions in England? We've got to give people a chance if theyve earnt it. (not just football)

 

[diedpretty]

There goes our juniors

Don't know why you got downvoted - obviously there are some thin skinned forumers on here with poor memories. Sheens went out of his way to get offside with the Macarthur region last time he was with club. Be interesting to see if anything has changed this time around.

 

[Masterton]

The revision of history surrounding Hastings does not surprise me at all. There were many halves which were young and inexperienced yet handled the NRL but Hasting could not. That in itself should be enough of an indicator.

I don't see that as revisionism. I'm sure even his most ardent fans admit there was a reason he went to England. How much that was to do with playing ability opposed to personality factors is what is disputed.

 

[240z]

Just remembered that Hodgson and Hastings played together for the Lions in 2019. That’ll be handy with combinations.

Hastings is a GB international but has never been able to secure a starting NRL position. It is purely coincidence of course!

Hastings turn is it?

When has he ever secured a starting NRL position?

Mate this is a ridiculous argument. He's been over in Super League, therefore unable to secure a starting spot. Not fair at all.

When he was in the NRL he was young and inexperienced, and if you've watched him play since then you'd realise the absurdity of your argument. He's an NRL standard half.

He’s playing in a second rate competition. Stop treating it like he’s been playing against NRL calibre opposition.

I don't disagree with you about it being a lesser competition but you can only be judged on who you play against. Yes he looks good in the UK but I will reserve my judgement until he plays back here. Time will tell if he is upto the mark at the NRL or a dud buy. Personally I think he will be an average player in the NRL ( a but like Connor Watson) but I do think its a fair gamble to take. I do hope I am wrong and we have picked up a star buy - we certainly need a result from this purchase.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Just remembered that Hodgson and Hastings played together for the Lions in 2019. That’ll be handy with combinations.

Hastings is a GB international but has never been able to secure a starting NRL position. It is purely coincidence of course!

Hastings turn is it?

When has he ever secured a starting NRL position?

Mate this is a ridiculous argument. He's been over in Super League, therefore unable to secure a starting spot. Not fair at all.

When he was in the NRL he was young and inexperienced, and if you've watched him play since then you'd realise the absurdity of your argument. He's an NRL standard half.

He had been to what three NRL clubs prior to going to the UK because no club wanted anything to do with him. The revision of history surrounding Hastings does not surprise me at all. There were many halves which were young and inexperienced yet handled the NRL but Hasting could not. That in itself should be enough of an indicator.

Alright I get it you dont like him. At least let him get on the field and work with the club before ou condemn him for this time. Yes, he was a young d**head but that was then we can only judge that since going to England and the ESL he has sorted himself out and is playing well. Everyone has a chance of redemption and hasnt he earnt it with his actions in England? We've got to give people a chance if theyve earnt it. (not just football)

Whether I like him or not is irrelevant. There are plenty of players I do not warm too but that doesn't mean I do not believe they are fine players. My view is not only based on games he has played in the NRL. In my view he was underwhelming in his junior days in the Illawarra. Nothing much has changed and without being disrespectful to the ESL, it is not the standard of the NRL.

PS I've seen far more in Kade Hill from our Jersey Flegg than Hastings at the same age.

 

[Aceshigh]

This forum is full of people who wanna put the slipper in , give Hastings a go before bagging the bloke you clowns

 

[innsaneink]

Give him a chance

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The revision of history surrounding Hastings does not surprise me at all. There were many halves which were young and inexperienced yet handled the NRL but Hasting could not. That in itself should be enough of an indicator.

I don't see that as revisionism. I'm sure even his most ardent fans admit there was a reason he went to England. How much that was to do with playing ability opposed to personality factors is what is disputed.

Everyone has a different view. My comments are related to his playing ability from juniors. I've never been impressed. I have steered clear of his other issues.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

This forum is full of people who wanna put the slipper in , give Hastings a go before bagging the bloke you clowns

Almost everyone puts the slipper in. Some give it to Hastings, some give it to Brooks and Noffa. The latest one is Liddle.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Just remembered that Hodgson and Hastings played together for the Lions in 2019. That’ll be handy with combinations.

Hastings is a GB international but has never been able to secure a starting NRL position. It is purely coincidence of course!

Hastings turn is it?

When has he ever secured a starting NRL position?

Mate this is a ridiculous argument. He's been over in Super League, therefore unable to secure a starting spot. Not fair at all.

When he was in the NRL he was young and inexperienced, and if you've watched him play since then you'd realise the absurdity of your argument. He's an NRL standard half.

He had been to what three NRL clubs prior to going to the UK because no club wanted anything to do with him. The revision of history surrounding Hastings does not surprise me at all. There were many halves which were young and inexperienced yet handled the NRL but Hasting could not. That in itself should be enough of an indicator.

He played close to 50 NRL games, so effectively two full seasons. Left at 22, reportedly due to attitude problems, does that constitute 'not handling the NRL'?

Also, who exactly were the 'many halves' that handled the nrl prior to this age?

How many of those games did he start?

 

[colinbh]

The revision of history surrounding Hastings does not surprise me at all. There were many halves which were young and inexperienced yet handled the NRL but Hasting could not. That in itself should be enough of an indicator.

I don't see that as revisionism. I'm sure even his most ardent fans admit there was a reason he went to England. How much that was to do with playing ability opposed to personality factors is what is disputed.

Everyone has a different view. My comments are related to his playing ability from juniors. I've never been impressed. I have steered clear of his other issues.

Playing ability from juniors? He ended up in first grade, so had some ability. As for a second rate comp there have been no complaints from the clubs who had english players on their roster. Canberra, wt. Canterbury, Norths.

Hastings will be very good for us. His kicking game is first class and you don*t get the man of steel award for nothing, Before putting the boot in, let*s wait and see.