Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Geo]

Compensate was correct it was luchiano

Just because it’s in the paper doesn’t make it true… especially when it’s a headline backing up another headline

 

[tiger05premier]

Where are all the doubters at now? Told ya it was Luch

Bye LL

Hope you have fun in French rugby

If we aren't willing to pay you triple your value I can't see any other NRL club doing it either

And by the way you only have to make a few tackles a game in rugby so you will fit right in

 

[tiger05premier]

Id rather let Luciano go and bring kelma or blore into starting squad 3 million far out

Pretty simple really

 

[The_Patriot]

Thank you! Spot on. Let’s get behind the team and the coaching staff. We’ll have more setbacks no doubt. However hopefully we see a lot of growth over next few years that out weighs any other troubles. I have a lot of hope for what Hastings might bring to the club and the way he’ll compliment Laurie, AD, Brooks and hopefully Hodgson and Simpkin. Our forwards are young but many showing promise.

There are better times ahead I’m sure and enthusiastic fans can help bring it on!

It is very difficult to follow this team at the moment - 5 months out from the 2022 season and the knowledge that with this team we are a 'bottom 3' lock. COE will be great and juniors are promising - everything else can be summed up with 'meh'!


I’m starting to feel more confident following football department position restructuring. Lee appears to have walked away from the board having more say in hiring coaching staff and Sheens appears to have bargained his way into an autonomous position where he can also write his own job description. The board can now focus on counting restaurant covers and organising entertainment, and leave the footy to those who know what they’re doing.

Lee footy talk has died down.

Must admit starting to feel optimism that will most likely suck me into membership again

Optimism based on what?

Just a personal feeling I guess

But think it's good

Lee less footy talk
Same with pacoe
Tim Sheens back
Focus on junior development
Hartigan gone
See what happens with signings

Think could be heading in right direction

There’s less talk cos they are all on holidays. It’ll be back in November

Lees been saying less on his weekly segment with Voss, hopefully Lee and pascoe have learned they need to leave footy to the big boys

They have addressed their issues.

What more do you want from them.

 

[tiger05premier]

I won't be devastated if Lucy moves on. Yes, he bends the line but he's not an 80 minute player and his defence, well we all know what it's like.

Up there with benchies defense

 

[jrtiger]

Luciano is kidding himself if he thinks he's worth $700k. the game's best back rowers would be lucky to be worth that and the bloke can't defend to save his life. $550k at absolute most.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Lucy's kidding himself if he thinks he's worth top tier backrow money, he's been listening to Bj too much the best centre in the NRL. He must think he's the best backrower in the Nrl he's no where near it they can actually tackle.

 

[tiger05premier]

How any player at WT outside of Laurie or Stefano can come and ask for a pay rise is astonishing.

Absolutely

Even AD as much as he is pasaionate can't tackle and therefore would have a hide to ask for a payrise

 

[Curaeus]

Let's see what-if any-action is taken by the cops and NRL against Starling. The Canberra cops didn't do very well against Curtis Scott a while back. And who knows, we might end up with Api from the Riff anyway. Younger and maybe just as good, or even better

Wasn't your run of the mill pub altercation though, by the sound of it: "The 23-year-old was charged with **threaten/cause injury to potential juror/witness** and for offensive behaviour in a public place." Might get treated very seriously I think.

Possibly, but the police have already dropped 6 of a possible 7 charges. And they did mess up the Scott case. Be interesting to see what happens. No doubt the NRL won't move until the court decides or the charge is withdrawn.

 

[tiger05premier]

We start them the media spreads them.

And the bastards earn a fortune reading this forum

 

[tiger05premier]

Only the top tier backrowers command 700k - 800k. If the story is in fact true then see later Lucy. You want to be busting tackles like Taumalolo and tackling like Cam Murray for that kind of cash.

I wish we could clone somebody with those features

They would be worth 1.4m

 

[JC99]

Compensate was correct it was luchiano

Just because it’s in the paper doesn’t make it true… especially when it’s a headline backing up another headline

He never said if it was true or not, he said the Buzz rumour was Luciano which was 100% correct. People gave him crap over it for no reason!

 

[Tiger5150]

Compensate was correct it was luchiano

Just because it’s in the paper doesn’t make it true… especially when it’s a headline backing up another headline


He never said if it was true or not, he said the Buzz rumour was Luciano which was 100% correct. People gave him crap over it for no reason!

People didnt give him crap (speaking for myself). People spelled out that just because he heard it, doesnt make it real. Ritchie repeating something possibly distantly related (or not), still doesnt make it real.

 

[rustycage]

Hartigan Gonski
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Wests Tigers have just parted ways with GM Adam Hartigan, who brought Laurie, Stefano and Blore to the club.

Sheens now calling the shots. Bizarre move. The club’s only shining light has been the recruitment and development of the youth.
https://twitter.com/MichaelChammas/status/1448814616759341086?t=ojvf72P1nR838bTxPcTRhg&s=19

Anyone else think Chammas just lost his inside source.

Our biggest problem has been recruitment and Hartigan was in charge of it. Our 2nd biggest problems was leaks.

2 birds on stone

How could a person who came from one of the most successful clubs in the game and with a record of success be the problem? And we bring back a plodder from the dead.
I don't normally get on the negativity nelly bandwagon but this club is bonkers if true.

The replacement is dumb granted but the best clubs don’t let go of people like that if they’re so important

In 'normal' circumstances I would agree.
This is the Wests Tigers we are talking about. Cochise has basically stated he is one of now three 'rats' that were caught in the leak trap. I'm not denying that may be true but it just sounds eerily familiar for us. Is it just Sheens is getting the band back together? Heaven help us if it is.

I have never in my life said that, Hartigan was one of the real assets of this club.

Sincere apologies - it was InnsaneInk.

Actually think it was Demps

pretty sure it was @cochise

I never called Hartigan a rat

Question though....

If all is true regarding Hartigan slamming the coach and agitating behind the scene

And despite him being an asset in some way to the club...

Would it be fair to assume its better for team and club harmony and long term success of our club for him not to be part of our organisation ?

A hell of a lot of ifs and assumptions in your post Demps. Hartigan to the club was a huge asset. Unfortunately the wrong individual is going.

You wanted Sheens back... It came at a price.

I thought when he signed his role would end up being more than just pathways but I didn't think he'd be given this much power. Seems like he's in charge of everything.

I think given the club administration's lack of ability to run a successful club, I'd argue we have no choice but to give him that power. I'd rather Sheens with that control than Pascoe or Hartigan or any other blow in that we brought in.

Sheens started this whole spiral. He was the one at the helm when we had the cattle and failed year after year, he was the one that got sacked initially, he was the one that buggered up the cap first time around, he was the one that ended up taking us to court. Since then, we've never recovered. Im not sure how the club gets us out of the mess, but I have little faith in Sheens being the guy to do it. The love for him bewilders me. 2005 was a long time ago. Anyway, thats how I see it. Feel free to rip in. And......GO.

You point out that the club has never recovered from Sheens and he's the source of the club's downward spiral. Irregardless of the fact we still had a successful junior pathways systems subsequent to his sacking. Or a core of very talented players (including juniors) in our system in 2017 - some of who were also a part of the succession plan from his coaching term.
The $950K he paid Farah is long gone.
There's been 3 other players who we've spent similar amounts of money on despite their low impact/influence on the team - Mbye, Packer, Reynolds - plus a coach that brought us to our knees and tarnished the brand/image of the club even worse than before.

No offence mate but there's a perpetual victimhood mentality, within the supporter base, that would rather bury its head in the sand than acknowledge how the club's management (and the division within in it) is cause for our major problems.
It has made persistent error after error and is responsible for the club's further disintegration.
I know I'm personally tired of blaming players and coaches. Or being angry for anyone that does or says anything negative or disrespectful to or about the club but we're in our current state because of them, previous and current.
It's sad to see all this misdirected anger or hurt because while other clubs are getting better because their fans ask the right questions, some of ours are still demanding answers about the past.
It does little to comfort us or change the outcome of our future. What's done is done.

You've missed the point. Sheens started the rubbish. I'm not blaming him for subsequent years at all. He coached and failed with a top roster. He then buggered up the finances. Our juniors are going well now. I'm not sure how well they're supposed to go until those in charge are recognised for a job reasonably well done under difficult circumstances. Tim's there to get the ship righted. But he tipped it upside down before and we're supposed to forget about that? I would prefer progress with someone that hasn't failed in his role before or taken the club to court personally. Not potentially a repeat of history.

 

[Geo]

Compensate was correct it was luchiano

Just because it’s in the paper doesn’t make it true… especially when it’s a headline backing up another headline


He never said if it was true or not, he said the Buzz rumour was Luciano which was 100% correct. People gave him crap over it for no reason!

They said BJ was offered a contract worth 800k less too..

 

[Telltails]

Pretty sure all players are looking for more money if they can get it especially now there is a new club looking to fill a complete roster in the not too distant future. Lots of managers trying to work clubs over in the coming weeks you can be sure of that.

 

[diedpretty]

Let's see what-if any-action is taken by the cops and NRL against Starling. The Canberra cops didn't do very well against Curtis Scott a while back. And who knows, we might end up with Api from the Riff anyway. Younger and maybe just as good, or even better

Wasn't your run of the mill pub altercation though, by the sound of it: "The 23-year-old was charged with **threaten/cause injury to potential juror/witness** and for offensive behaviour in a public place." Might get treated very seriously I think.

Possibly, but the police have already dropped 6 of a possible 7 charges. And they did mess up the Scott case. Be interesting to see what happens. No doubt the NRL won't move until the court decides or the charge is withdrawn.

That was last year - this is a new incident that happened last weekend. Apparently was refused entry to a pub/bar and got pretty dirty with security and then the police.

 

[Lee's fedora]

So we're all pretty happy to let LL go?

 

[tony soprano]

Compensate was correct it was luchiano

Just because it’s in the paper doesn’t make it true… especially when it’s a headline backing up another headline


He never said if it was true or not, he said the Buzz rumour was Luciano which was 100% correct. People gave him crap over it for no reason!

True

In defence tho who would of thought the club would offer him 700k.

 

[KingRobbie]

Where are all the doubters at now? Told ya it was Luch

Good call mate.