Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Lee's fedora]

So is it media beat up or legit??

 

[gallagher]

So we're all pretty happy to let LL go?

The scary thing is many of us saw the minute we wanted BJ gone LL would probably want out .......

Yet it didn't seem to occur to the Recruitment gurus .....

The article seems to say he doesn't care.

It never matters what the article ever says. It's outrage time....?

 

[tony soprano]

So is it media beat up or legit??

Sounds like media and player manager drumming up $$$

 

[Tiger5150]

So we're all pretty happy to let LL go?

The scary thing is many of us saw the minute we wanted BJ gone LL would probably want out .......

Yet it didn't seem to occur to the Recruitment gurus .....

Did it occur to you, that the genius journalists may have had the same thought that you did and play it up?

Difference probably being that some of us were concerned before we recruited LL ..when it was 1st mooted he might come here ......

Don't throw some of us with the Journo's ...Kent's at least played the game to a reasonably high level ...Read knows jack about the game and didn't play it ......

Sure,,.......my point is its a pretty easy angle that the brother might crack it after BJ's departure. Was only a matter of time before there was a LL article.

Is it even fact ...has Lucy said he wants out

Buzzard says so and Fat Cat backed him up..

Buzz didnt say it was LL, Compensate knows a guy who knows a guy, who knows another guy that knows the guy.

 

[Roar_Power]

Turnstiles are getting expensive. Let him go. $700k a season is madness.

 

[Viking Warrior]

Way overs for Lucy but it is the media after all believe nothing

 

[kade7]

Luciano wants to stay , he will get an upgrade but not anywhere near 700k

Also the tigers offered Adam Elliott 150k for 1 year which he turned down , in favour for a 2 year contract with the raiders

 

[tiger05premier]

Luciano wants to stay , he will get an upgrade but not anywhere near 700k

Also the tigers offered Adam Elliott 150k for 1 year which he turned down , in favour for a 2 year contract with the raiders

Adam Elliot will get the sack anyway

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Hartigan Gonski
LATEST

Wests Tigers have just parted ways with GM Adam Hartigan, who brought Laurie, Stefano and Blore to the club.

Sheens now calling the shots. Bizarre move. The club’s only shining light has been the recruitment and development of the youth.
https://twitter.com/MichaelChammas/status/1448814616759341086?t=ojvf72P1nR838bTxPcTRhg&s=19

Anyone else think Chammas just lost his inside source.

Our biggest problem has been recruitment and Hartigan was in charge of it. Our 2nd biggest problems was leaks.

2 birds on stone

How could a person who came from one of the most successful clubs in the game and with a record of success be the problem? And we bring back a plodder from the dead.
I don't normally get on the negativity nelly bandwagon but this club is bonkers if true.

The replacement is dumb granted but the best clubs don’t let go of people like that if they’re so important

In 'normal' circumstances I would agree.
This is the Wests Tigers we are talking about. Cochise has basically stated he is one of now three 'rats' that were caught in the leak trap. I'm not denying that may be true but it just sounds eerily familiar for us. Is it just Sheens is getting the band back together? Heaven help us if it is.

I have never in my life said that, Hartigan was one of the real assets of this club.

Sincere apologies - it was InnsaneInk.

Actually think it was Demps

pretty sure it was @cochise

I never called Hartigan a rat

Question though....

If all is true regarding Hartigan slamming the coach and agitating behind the scene

And despite him being an asset in some way to the club...

Would it be fair to assume its better for team and club harmony and long term success of our club for him not to be part of our organisation ?

A hell of a lot of ifs and assumptions in your post Demps. Hartigan to the club was a huge asset. Unfortunately the wrong individual is going.

You wanted Sheens back... It came at a price.

I thought when he signed his role would end up being more than just pathways but I didn't think he'd be given this much power. Seems like he's in charge of everything.

I think given the club administration's lack of ability to run a successful club, I'd argue we have no choice but to give him that power. I'd rather Sheens with that control than Pascoe or Hartigan or any other blow in that we brought in.

Sheens started this whole spiral. He was the one at the helm when we had the cattle and failed year after year, he was the one that got sacked initially, he was the one that buggered up the cap first time around, he was the one that ended up taking us to court. Since then, we've never recovered. Im not sure how the club gets us out of the mess, but I have little faith in Sheens being the guy to do it. The love for him bewilders me. 2005 was a long time ago. Anyway, thats how I see it. Feel free to rip in. And......GO.

You point out that the club has never recovered from Sheens and he's the source of the club's downward spiral. Irregardless of the fact we still had a successful junior pathways systems subsequent to his sacking. Or a core of very talented players (including juniors) in our system in 2017 - some of who were also a part of the succession plan from his coaching term.
The $950K he paid Farah is long gone.
There's been 3 other players who we've spent similar amounts of money on despite their low impact/influence on the team - Mbye, Packer, Reynolds - plus a coach that brought us to our knees and tarnished the brand/image of the club even worse than before.

No offence mate but there's a perpetual victimhood mentality, within the supporter base, that would rather bury its head in the sand than acknowledge how the club's management (and the division within in it) is cause for our major problems.
It has made persistent error after error and is responsible for the club's further disintegration.
I know I'm personally tired of blaming players and coaches. Or being angry for anyone that does or says anything negative or disrespectful to or about the club but we're in our current state because of them, previous and current.
It's sad to see all this misdirected anger or hurt because while other clubs are getting better because their fans ask the right questions, some of ours are still demanding answers about the past.
It does little to comfort us or change the outcome of our future. What's done is done.

You've missed the point. Sheens started the rubbish. I'm not blaming him for subsequent years at all. He coached and failed with a top roster. He then buggered up the finances. Our juniors are going well now. I'm not sure how well they're supposed to go until those in charge are recognised for a job reasonably well done under, and difficult circumstances. Tim's there to get the ship righted. But he tipped it upside down before and we're supposed to forget about that? I would prefer progress with someone that hasn't failed in his role before or taken the club to court personally. Not potentially a repeat of histor

I get your point . And agree in principle . I think sheens ishere to navigate the all the bull crap behind the scenes , and create one clear pathway and identity for the football department . Whilst he did Scrww the cap up, we also had a football department that appeared at least from the outside to be moving in the one direction, and from what we’ve all heard and maybe some have actually seen , he did that with an iron fist .
When was the last time anyone could say that about us . Also the blazer wearing sycophants, were kept at arms length .
It’s a new generation , and totally different infrastructure now , but I’d hazard a guess that that’s the desired outcome .
Time will tell if it’s been possible of happening though .

 

[hsvjones]

Luciano wants to stay , he will get an upgrade but not anywhere near 700k

Also the tigers offered Adam Elliott 150k for 1 year which he turned down , in favour for a 2 year contract with the raiders

Raiders are tight on money I believe so would not be a lot of money from them. Maybe we could assist a little and take Hodgson off there hands with them contributing

 

[tigerballs]

Hartigan Gonski
LATEST

Wests Tigers have just parted ways with GM Adam Hartigan, who brought Laurie, Stefano and Blore to the club.

Sheens now calling the shots. Bizarre move. The club’s only shining light has been the recruitment and development of the youth.
https://twitter.com/MichaelChammas/status/1448814616759341086?t=ojvf72P1nR838bTxPcTRhg&s=19

Anyone else think Chammas just lost his inside source.

Our biggest problem has been recruitment and Hartigan was in charge of it. Our 2nd biggest problems was leaks.

2 birds on stone

How could a person who came from one of the most successful clubs in the game and with a record of success be the problem? And we bring back a plodder from the dead.
I don't normally get on the negativity nelly bandwagon but this club is bonkers if true.

The replacement is dumb granted but the best clubs don’t let go of people like that if they’re so important

In 'normal' circumstances I would agree.
This is the Wests Tigers we are talking about. Cochise has basically stated he is one of now three 'rats' that were caught in the leak trap. I'm not denying that may be true but it just sounds eerily familiar for us. Is it just Sheens is getting the band back together? Heaven help us if it is.

I have never in my life said that, Hartigan was one of the real assets of this club.

Sincere apologies - it was InnsaneInk.

Actually think it was Demps

pretty sure it was @cochise

I never called Hartigan a rat

Question though....

If all is true regarding Hartigan slamming the coach and agitating behind the scene

And despite him being an asset in some way to the club...

Would it be fair to assume its better for team and club harmony and long term success of our club for him not to be part of our organisation ?

A hell of a lot of ifs and assumptions in your post Demps. Hartigan to the club was a huge asset. Unfortunately the wrong individual is going.

You wanted Sheens back... It came at a price.

I thought when he signed his role would end up being more than just pathways but I didn't think he'd be given this much power. Seems like he's in charge of everything.

I think given the club administration's lack of ability to run a successful club, I'd argue we have no choice but to give him that power. I'd rather Sheens with that control than Pascoe or Hartigan or any other blow in that we brought in.

Sheens started this whole spiral. He was the one at the helm when we had the cattle and failed year after year, he was the one that got sacked initially, he was the one that buggered up the cap first time around, he was the one that ended up taking us to court. Since then, we've never recovered. Im not sure how the club gets us out of the mess, but I have little faith in Sheens being the guy to do it. The love for him bewilders me. 2005 was a long time ago. Anyway, thats how I see it. Feel free to rip in. And......GO.

You point out that the club has never recovered from Sheens and he's the source of the club's downward spiral. Irregardless of the fact we still had a successful junior pathways systems subsequent to his sacking. Or a core of very talented players (including juniors) in our system in 2017 - some of who were also a part of the succession plan from his coaching term.
The $950K he paid Farah is long gone.
There's been 3 other players who we've spent similar amounts of money on despite their low impact/influence on the team - Mbye, Packer, Reynolds - plus a coach that brought us to our knees and tarnished the brand/image of the club even worse than before.

No offence mate but there's a perpetual victimhood mentality, within the supporter base, that would rather bury its head in the sand than acknowledge how the club's management (and the division within in it) is cause for our major problems.
It has made persistent error after error and is responsible for the club's further disintegration.
I know I'm personally tired of blaming players and coaches. Or being angry for anyone that does or says anything negative or disrespectful to or about the club but we're in our current state because of them, previous and current.
It's sad to see all this misdirected anger or hurt because while other clubs are getting better because their fans ask the right questions, some of ours are still demanding answers about the past.
It does little to comfort us or change the outcome of our future. What's done is done.

You've missed the point. Sheens started the rubbish. I'm not blaming him for subsequent years at all. He coached and failed with a top roster. He then buggered up the finances. Our juniors are going well now. I'm not sure how well they're supposed to go until those in charge are recognised for a job reasonably well done under difficult circumstances. Tim's there to get the ship righted. But he tipped it upside down before and we're supposed to forget about that? I would prefer progress with someone that hasn't failed in his role before or taken the club to court personally. Not potentially a repeat of history.

So, the bloke famously wins us a comp in 2005 with a team of kids and virtual nobodies with probably the best brand of football ever, loses key players to cashed up clubs almost immediately after, reassembles a team to be competing within a few years, gets robbed of an opportunity for a second premiership and you're trying to convince people he failed with a top roster and buggered the finances. Please.... You're like those imbeciles from St George who hate Wayne Bennet, even though he won them a desperately needed premiership when others failed because they didn't win two in a row.

 

[tony soprano]

Luciano wants to stay , he will get an upgrade but not anywhere near 700k

Also the tigers offered Adam Elliott 150k for 1 year which he turned down , in favour for a 2 year contract with the raiders

Dumb move, prove yourself with the 1 year and ask for upgrade.

 

[weststigerman]

The forum has been feisty the last few days.

 

[WT2K]

The forum has been feisty the last few days.

More fight on here shown than those playing for WT

 

[TillLindemann]

The forum has been feisty the last few days.

I think the absolute certainty that Jackson Hastings will lead us to a premiership is messing with people's heads, they don't know how to deal with this information and are turning on each other as a result.

 

[happy_tiger]

So we're all pretty happy to let LL go?

The scary thing is many of us saw the minute we wanted BJ gone LL would probably want out .......

Yet it didn't seem to occur to the Recruitment gurus .....

Did it occur to you, that the genius journalists may have had the same thought that you did and play it up?

Difference probably being that some of us were concerned before we recruited LL ..when it was 1st mooted he might come here ......

Don't throw some of us with the Journo's ...Kent's at least played the game to a reasonably high level ...Read knows jack about the game and didn't play it ......

Sure,,.......my point is its a pretty easy angle that the brother might crack it after BJ's departure. Was only a matter of time before there was a LL article.

Is it even fact ...has Lucy said he wants out

Buzzard says so and Fat Cat backed him up..

Fat Cat ....Greg Ritchie ??

 

[Guest]

Two members have been banned over completely unnecessary personal attacks against other. There are a few people on here who could do with developing some maturity - we're supposed to support the same damn team and despite the insipid efforts the WT threw at us this year, I won't allow this forum to follow the same fate as the team.

People need to respect one another when it comes to differing points of view - by all means disagree but when it comes to abusing each other, then this place isn't for you.

 

[happy_tiger]

Two members have been banned over completely unnecessary personal attacks against other. There are a few people on here who could do with developing some maturity - we're supposed to support the same damn team and despite the insipid efforts the WT threw at us this year, I won't allow this forum to follow the same fate as the team.

People need to respect one another when it comes to differing points of view - by all means disagree but when it comes to abusing each other, then this place isn't for you.

I can't bully @geo or @hobbo1 or even that ranga @cochise ....becoming a tough gig

 

[cochise]

Two members have been banned over completely unnecessary personal attacks against other. There are a few people on here who could do with developing some maturity - we're supposed to support the same damn team and despite the insipid efforts the WT threw at us this year, I won't allow this forum to follow the same fate as the team.

People need to respect one another when it comes to differing points of view - by all means disagree but when it comes to abusing each other, then this place isn't for you.

I can't bully @geo or @hobbo1 or even that ranga @cochise ....becoming a tough gig

Fat Ranga is my official title, thankyou very much

 

[hobbo1]

Two members have been banned over completely unnecessary personal attacks against other. There are a few people on here who could do with developing some maturity - we're supposed to support the same damn team and despite the insipid efforts the WT threw at us this year, I won't allow this forum to follow the same fate as the team.

People need to respect one another when it comes to differing points of view - by all means disagree but when it comes to abusing each other, then this place isn't for you.

I can't bully @geo or @hobbo1 or even that ranga @cochise ....becoming a tough gig

You’ve got more pressing issues mate lol