Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[hsvjones]

I would not even give it a second thought of getting Papali'i over LL... If LL does want to accept the 550k I would say off you go and increase the offer for Papali'i to 650k..
The problem is even if we get him (unlikely IMO) Eels won't release him early as he is on small money next year and they have cap problems. He would be massive for us

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Papali for 600k would be a great get for Tigers

 

[OzLuke]

I would not even give it a second thought of getting Papali'i over LL... If LL does want to accept the 550k I would say off you go and increase the offer for Papali'i to 650k..
The problem is even if we get him (unlikely IMO) Eels won't release him early as he is on small money next year and they have cap problems. He would be massive for us

especially if word is true and they are looking at moving matterson

 

[cochise]

any word on Koroisau? Weren't we in on him when Hodgson looked like staying at raiders?

Api was only manager talk.

 

[clontarfkid]

Hopefully it means we are giving Garner his walking papers. Need to do better than him.

Actually,I think its an either/or...him or Lucy.
Similiar players tbh..but one is a bit better than the other

 

[OzLuke]

any word on Koroisau? Weren't we in on him when Hodgson looked like staying at raiders?

Api was only manager talk.

fair enough. If he had the leadership that hodgson has I'd take him every day.

But he would certainly improve our team if he came.

 

[hsvjones]

any word on Koroisau? Weren't we in on him when Hodgson looked like staying at raiders?

I thought Koroisau Mgr come to us for offer and not the other way around so I think that is very unlikely and him just getting Panthers to increase there offer.

They are saying Hodgson is on 850-900k next year and Raiders will only pay 100k so if that's the case you could close that off as well as we would not be paying 800k for him.. We offered to pay 500k and for me that's very generous and Raiders would be crazy to say no.

 

[tony soprano]

any word on Koroisau? Weren't we in on him when Hodgson looked like staying at raiders?

I thought Koroisau Mgr come to us for offer and not the other way around so I think that is very unlikely and him just getting Panthers to increase there offer.

They are saying Hodgson is on 850-900k next year and Raiders will only pay 100k so if that's the case you could close that off as well as we would not be paying 800k for him.. We offered to pay 500k and for me that's very generous and Raiders would be crazy to say no.

Was odd the Raiders recruitment leaked it

 

[Tiger Woods]

Papal I for lei luau straight swap 😃

 

[Masterton]

Cathane Hill

Reminds me a little of Brett Stewart...

Is he small or is that ball big?

 

[Aesopian]

What's our strike rate when being first linked to an off contract player?

I reckon it's a big DONUT...

 

[Ultimate Warrior]

Don't get why people need to crap on one of our promising rookies in Jake Simpkin all the time, let the kid develop and see how he goes. Clearly he's worth putting time into

If you like Liddle that doesn't mean you have to hate Jake Simpkin fellas, end of the day it's about the team not individuals ?

This is quite ironic. As soon as you criticise players like Simpkin or Hastings, it’s seen as unfair. Yet for players like Brooks, Noffa and Liddle, it’s open slather. To the point where a lot of it gets personal. I’ve seen Brooks called an imp, Noffa is constantly referred to as Nofoalooza. But it’s the ones who criticise darlings like Simpkin and Hastings that get called out for being unfair and should rein it in. Classic double standards.

The Simpkin thing is the same as brooks and Liddle . People built up their expectations , and when reality didn’t meet their fairytale , they turned on the player . It was obvious from 2017 brooks was destined for above average first grade half eg. Matt Orford career . But nope because he’s not the next Andrew johns , then he’s somehow a reserve grader ??
Same thing for Liddle and Simpkin is headed that way as well . They evaluate them on what they want them to be rather than what they are .

Brooks is a very average first grade half. He's in the bottom 4 for me and is a major reason why we remain average. This has nothing to do with me wanting him to be the next Johns although, wouldn't that be nice? Seriously, wouldn't it be nice if he had even a slither of the skill of Johns? I don't know why people are so passionate to defend mediocrity. These are professionals on loads of mon

Mate I’m not interested sorry . If you can’t see the forest from the trees , that’s on you . I’m not debating it . People who do this stuff for a living agree with me , to varying degrees I’m sure , but in general . That’s good enough for me. I tend to go an electrician for electrical faults . Or a plumber for water issues . And I don’t assume I know more than either . That’s the last thing I’m going to say . I hope you have a good night .

The varying degrees is the issue. Certainly not a rep level player. Not a finals player. He is perfectly average. Wins the odd game he shouldn’t. Loses a lot of games he shouldn’t.
That is not good enough for a lot of supporters. We want more from our halfback and fear we have given him a free career he would not have achieved elsewhere.
Our rebuild can only begin when he leaves.

We must be watching a different player. Brooks would get a start with many clubs who would be happy to build a side around him.

How many other halfbacks experienced the loss of quality players such as Tedesco, JAC, Simona, Moses, Matterson, Tapau, Woods, Sironen (perhaps Koroibete as well) without players of equal quality replacing them?. He is the one who stayed and is hammered for it.

Firstly, he stayed because no one else wanted him.
Secondly, he was crap when all those boys were here.
Thirdly, you cannot build a side around a voiceless introvert with middling talent.

Cool man . Stop saying the same things over and over . Let it go . We don’t agree with you . I’m never going to agree with you ( I can’t speak for paws and others) . And most of the nrl doesn’t agree with you , regardless of what the fans are screaming about .
Think what you want . But stop repeating yourself , or keep it in the “we hate Luke brooks “ echo chamber thread .

You keep raising it sunshine. Please take your own advice.

Yep.

If Brooks’ career was an Underbelly series, it would be called Underbelly Lameness

 

[Champ]

any word on Koroisau? Weren't we in on him when Hodgson looked like staying at raiders?

I thought Koroisau Mgr come to us for offer and not the other way around so I think that is very unlikely and him just getting Panthers to increase there offer.

They are saying Hodgson is on 850-900k next year and Raiders will only pay 100k so if that's the case you could close that off as well as we would not be paying 800k for him.. We offered to pay 500k and for me that's very generous and Raiders would be crazy to say no.

Tigers need to be strong here. Hodgson hates Stuart & Stuart hates Hodgson. We need to tell Canberra chip in the 300k or too bad . It would be ridiculous for us to spend $850k on Hodgson........ think who else we could buy for that! We are in the box seat here. Need to ram the advantage home.

 

[hsvjones]

any word on Koroisau? Weren't we in on him when Hodgson looked like staying at raiders?

I thought Koroisau Mgr come to us for offer and not the other way around so I think that is very unlikely and him just getting Panthers to increase there offer.

They are saying Hodgson is on 850-900k next year and Raiders will only pay 100k so if that's the case you could close that off as well as we would not be paying 800k for him.. We offered to pay 500k and for me that's very generous and Raiders would be crazy to say no.

Tigers need to be strong here. Hodgson hates Stuart & Stuart hates Hodgson. We need to tell Canberra chip in the 300k or too bad . It would be ridiculous for us to spend $850k on Hodgson........ think who else we could buy for that! We are in the box seat here. Need to ram the advantage home.

Agree... I would give them a deadline or we walk as NO other club is giving him 800k considering he is coming off 2 Knees and 31 Years old.. 500k take it or leave it..

 

[Masterton]

Michale definitely has something. His post contact meters for a young prop are quite good. His physical contact is strong.
His decision making, fitness and hands are areas that need improvement.

I doubt Mikaele will ever be a top-line prop, but it seems he's improving gradually like Aloiai and will be valuable soon.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Don't get why people need to crap on one of our promising rookies in Jake Simpkin all the time, let the kid develop and see how he goes. Clearly he's worth putting time into

If you like Liddle that doesn't mean you have to hate Jake Simpkin fellas, end of the day it's about the team not individuals ?

This is quite ironic. As soon as you criticise players like Simpkin or Hastings, it’s seen as unfair. Yet for players like Brooks, Noffa and Liddle, it’s open slather. To the point where a lot of it gets personal. I’ve seen Brooks called an imp, Noffa is constantly referred to as Nofoalooza. But it’s the ones who criticise darlings like Simpkin and Hastings that get called out for being unfair and should rein it in. Classic double standards.

The Simpkin thing is the same as brooks and Liddle . People built up their expectations , and when reality didn’t meet their fairytale , they turned on the player . It was obvious from 2017 brooks was destined for above average first grade half eg. Matt Orford career . But nope because he’s not the next Andrew johns , then he’s somehow a reserve grader ??
Same thing for Liddle and Simpkin is headed that way as well . They evaluate them on what they want them to be rather than what they are .

Brooks is a very average first grade half. He's in the bottom 4 for me and is a major reason why we remain average. This has nothing to do with me wanting him to be the next Johns although, wouldn't that be nice? Seriously, wouldn't it be nice if he had even a slither of the skill of Johns? I don't know why people are so passionate to defend mediocrity. These are professionals on loads of money.

The reason people are passionate about him is simply because he wears our colours and people are used to seeing that. It’s a cognitive bias, like the endowment effect.
In any other organisation, or team, he would have been moved on years ago.
The fact that management have kept him on is completely unacceptable - it shows no desire. But there is no accountability here at WT and I’m not even sure now that Sheens will change that.
As for his passionate but ever-dwindling fan club, it’s not just wearing rose glasses. It’s a personality trait thing, in their refusal to accept they were wrong in their judgement of him, so they double down. That’s why for the most part you can’t convince them.

None of what you said is remotely true . I’ve laid out infinite reasons for why I think what I do about this , and you chose to continue to repeatedly ignore it . It’s you who has the bias. I don’t know how many times “first grade half” can be said , and in how many different ways . Somehow acknowledging hes not crap , is the same as saying you think he’s great . I’m so over talking to anti brooks brigade about this simple yet somehow lost in translation concept .
He’s not crap . He’s not great either . He needs to move on , and find success in a team with better players .
Spin that however you want . Just don’t talk to me about it . I’m not interested .

You have laid out “infinite reasons”?
Either an exaggeration or a lie

Whatever . Go through my history . Otherwise be quiet . Enough already .

 

[needsanewusername]

Don't get why people need to crap on one of our promising rookies in Jake Simpkin all the time, let the kid develop and see how he goes. Clearly he's worth putting time into

If you like Liddle that doesn't mean you have to hate Jake Simpkin fellas, end of the day it's about the team not individuals ?

This is quite ironic. As soon as you criticise players like Simpkin or Hastings, it’s seen as unfair. Yet for players like Brooks, Noffa and Liddle, it’s open slather. To the point where a lot of it gets personal. I’ve seen Brooks called an imp, Noffa is constantly referred to as Nofoalooza. But it’s the ones who criticise darlings like Simpkin and Hastings that get called out for being unfair and should rein it in. Classic double standards.

The Simpkin thing is the same as brooks and Liddle . People built up their expectations , and when reality didn’t meet their fairytale , they turned on the player . It was obvious from 2017 brooks was destined for above average first grade half eg. Matt Orford career . But nope because he’s not the next Andrew johns , then he’s somehow a reserve grader ??
Same thing for Liddle and Simpkin is headed that way as well . They evaluate them on what they want them to be rather than what they are .

Brooks is a very average first grade half. He's in the bottom 4 for me and is a major reason why we remain average. This has nothing to do with me wanting him to be the next Johns although, wouldn't that be nice? Seriously, wouldn't it be nice if he had even a slither of the skill of Johns? I don't know why people are so passionate to defend mediocrity. These are professionals on loads of money.

The reason people are passionate about him is simply because he wears our colours and people are used to seeing that. It’s a cognitive bias, like the endowment effect.
In any other organisation, or team, he would have been moved on years ago.
The fact that management have kept him on is completely unacceptable - it shows no desire. But there is no accountability here at WT and I’m not even sure now that Sheens will change that.
As for his passionate but ever-dwindling fan club, it’s not just wearing rose glasses. It’s a personality trait thing, in their refusal to accept they were wrong in their judgement of him, so they double down. That’s why for the most part you can’t convince them.

None of what you said is remotely true . I’ve laid out infinite reasons for why I think what I do about this , and you chose to continue to repeatedly ignore it . It’s you who has the bias. I don’t know how many times “first grade half” can be said , and in how many different ways . Somehow acknowledging hes not crap , is the same as saying you think he’s great . I’m so over talking to anti brooks brigade about this simple yet somehow lost in translation concept .
He’s not crap . He’s not great either . He needs to move on , and find success in a team with better players .
Spin that however you want . Just don’t talk to me about it . I’m not interested .

You have laid out “infinite reasons”?
Either an exaggeration or a lie

Whatever . Go through my history . Otherwise be quiet . Enough already .

I will go through it, but I am strongly tipping I will lose interest before my count reaches infinity.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Don't get why people need to crap on one of our promising rookies in Jake Simpkin all the time, let the kid develop and see how he goes. Clearly he's worth putting time into

If you like Liddle that doesn't mean you have to hate Jake Simpkin fellas, end of the day it's about the team not individuals ?

This is quite ironic. As soon as you criticise players like Simpkin or Hastings, it’s seen as unfair. Yet for players like Brooks, Noffa and Liddle, it’s open slather. To the point where a lot of it gets personal. I’ve seen Brooks called an imp, Noffa is constantly referred to as Nofoalooza. But it’s the ones who criticise darlings like Simpkin and Hastings that get called out for being unfair and should rein it in. Classic double standards.

The Simpkin thing is the same as brooks and Liddle . People built up their expectations , and when reality didn’t meet their fairytale , they turned on the player . It was obvious from 2017 brooks was destined for above average first grade half eg. Matt Orford career . But nope because he’s not the next Andrew johns , then he’s somehow a reserve grader ??
Same thing for Liddle and Simpkin is headed that way as well . They evaluate them on what they want them to be rather than what they are .

Brooks is a very average first grade half. He's in the bottom 4 for me and is a major reason why we remain average. This has nothing to do with me wanting him to be the next Johns although, wouldn't that be nice? Seriously, wouldn't it be nice if he had even a slither of the skill of Johns? I don't know why people are so passionate to defend mediocrity. These are professionals on loads of money.

The reason people are passionate about him is simply because he wears our colours and people are used to seeing that. It’s a cognitive bias, like the endowment effect.
In any other organisation, or team, he would have been moved on years ago.
The fact that management have kept him on is completely unacceptable - it shows no desire. But there is no accountability here at WT and I’m not even sure now that Sheens will change that.
As for his passionate but ever-dwindling fan club, it’s not just wearing rose glasses. It’s a personality trait thing, in their refusal to accept they were wrong in their judgement of him, so they double down. That’s why for the most part you can’t convince them.

None of what you said is remotely true . I’ve laid out infinite reasons for why I think what I do about this , and you chose to continue to repeatedly ignore it . It’s you who has the bias. I don’t know how many times “first grade half” can be said , and in how many different ways . Somehow acknowledging hes not crap , is the same as saying you think he’s great . I’m so over talking to anti brooks brigade about this simple yet somehow lost in translation concept .
He’s not crap . He’s not great either . He needs to move on , and find success in a team with better players .
Spin that however you want . Just don’t talk to me about it . I’m not interested .

You have laid out “infinite reasons”?
Either an exaggeration or a lie

Whatever . Go through my history . Otherwise be quiet . Enough already .

I will go through it, but I am strongly tipping I will lose interest before my count reaches infinity.

Great ! cool ! Thanks for the heads up. I can sleep easy now … are we done ?

 

[needsanewusername]

Don't get why people need to crap on one of our promising rookies in Jake Simpkin all the time, let the kid develop and see how he goes. Clearly he's worth putting time into

If you like Liddle that doesn't mean you have to hate Jake Simpkin fellas, end of the day it's about the team not individuals ?

This is quite ironic. As soon as you criticise players like Simpkin or Hastings, it’s seen as unfair. Yet for players like Brooks, Noffa and Liddle, it’s open slather. To the point where a lot of it gets personal. I’ve seen Brooks called an imp, Noffa is constantly referred to as Nofoalooza. But it’s the ones who criticise darlings like Simpkin and Hastings that get called out for being unfair and should rein it in. Classic double standards.

The Simpkin thing is the same as brooks and Liddle . People built up their expectations , and when reality didn’t meet their fairytale , they turned on the player . It was obvious from 2017 brooks was destined for above average first grade half eg. Matt Orford career . But nope because he’s not the next Andrew johns , then he’s somehow a reserve grader ??
Same thing for Liddle and Simpkin is headed that way as well . They evaluate them on what they want them to be rather than what they are .

Brooks is a very average first grade half. He's in the bottom 4 for me and is a major reason why we remain average. This has nothing to do with me wanting him to be the next Johns although, wouldn't that be nice? Seriously, wouldn't it be nice if he had even a slither of the skill of Johns? I don't know why people are so passionate to defend mediocrity. These are professionals on loads of money.

The reason people are passionate about him is simply because he wears our colours and people are used to seeing that. It’s a cognitive bias, like the endowment effect.
In any other organisation, or team, he would have been moved on years ago.
The fact that management have kept him on is completely unacceptable - it shows no desire. But there is no accountability here at WT and I’m not even sure now that Sheens will change that.
As for his passionate but ever-dwindling fan club, it’s not just wearing rose glasses. It’s a personality trait thing, in their refusal to accept they were wrong in their judgement of him, so they double down. That’s why for the most part you can’t convince them.

None of what you said is remotely true . I’ve laid out infinite reasons for why I think what I do about this , and you chose to continue to repeatedly ignore it . It’s you who has the bias. I don’t know how many times “first grade half” can be said , and in how many different ways . Somehow acknowledging hes not crap , is the same as saying you think he’s great . I’m so over talking to anti brooks brigade about this simple yet somehow lost in translation concept .
He’s not crap . He’s not great either . He needs to move on , and find success in a team with better players .
Spin that however you want . Just don’t talk to me about it . I’m not interested .

You have laid out “infinite reasons”?
Either an exaggeration or a lie

Whatever . Go through my history . Otherwise be quiet . Enough already .

I will go through it, but I am strongly tipping I will lose interest before my count reaches infinity.

Great ! cool ! Thanks for the heads up. I can sleep easy now … are we done ?

Yeah for now. Goodnight

 

[Camel2281]

Don't get why people need to crap on one of our promising rookies in Jake Simpkin all the time, let the kid develop and see how he goes. Clearly he's worth putting time into

If you like Liddle that doesn't mean you have to hate Jake Simpkin fellas, end of the day it's about the team not individuals ?

This is quite ironic. As soon as you criticise players like Simpkin or Hastings, it’s seen as unfair. Yet for players like Brooks, Noffa and Liddle, it’s open slather. To the point where a lot of it gets personal. I’ve seen Brooks called an imp, Noffa is constantly referred to as Nofoalooza. But it’s the ones who criticise darlings like Simpkin and Hastings that get called out for being unfair and should rein it in. Classic double standards.

The Simpkin thing is the same as brooks and Liddle . People built up their expectations , and when reality didn’t meet their fairytale , they turned on the player . It was obvious from 2017 brooks was destined for above average first grade half eg. Matt Orford career . But nope because he’s not the next Andrew johns , then he’s somehow a reserve grader ??
Same thing for Liddle and Simpkin is headed that way as well . They evaluate them on what they want them to be rather than what they are .

Brooks is a very average first grade half. He's in the bottom 4 for me and is a major reason why we remain average. This has nothing to do with me wanting him to be the next Johns although, wouldn't that be nice? Seriously, wouldn't it be nice if he had even a slither of the skill of Johns? I don't know why people are so passionate to defend mediocrity. These are professionals on loads of mon

Mate I’m not interested sorry . If you can’t see the forest from the trees , that’s on you . I’m not debating it . People who do this stuff for a living agree with me , to varying degrees I’m sure , but in general . That’s good enough for me. I tend to go an electrician for electrical faults . Or a plumber for water issues . And I don’t assume I know more than either . That’s the last thing I’m going to say . I hope you have a good night .

The varying degrees is the issue. Certainly not a rep level player. Not a finals player. He is perfectly average. Wins the odd game he shouldn’t. Loses a lot of games he shouldn’t.
That is not good enough for a lot of supporters. We want more from our halfback and fear we have given him a free career he would not have achieved elsewhere.
Our rebuild can only begin when he leaves.

We must be watching a different player. Brooks would get a start with many clubs who would be happy to build a side around him.

How many other halfbacks experienced the loss of quality players such as Tedesco, JAC, Simona, Moses, Matterson, Tapau, Woods, Sironen (perhaps Koroibete as well) without players of equal quality replacing them?. He is the one who stayed and is hammered for it.

Firstly, he stayed because no one else wanted him.
Secondly, he was crap when all those boys were here.
Thirdly, you cannot build a side around a voiceless introvert with middling talent.

Cool man . Stop saying the same things over and over . Let it go . We don’t agree with you . I’m never going to agree with you ( I can’t speak for paws and others) . And most of the nrl doesn’t agree with you , regardless of what the fans are screaming about .
Think what you want . But stop repeating yourself , or keep it in the “we hate Luke brooks “ echo chamber thread .

You and paws are the ones who keep bringing up how good he is. There's like 3 people on here who continually say the same thing praising Brooks despite all evidence proving you wrong.

And your most of the NRL doesn't agree his average, hahaha. If that were the case he'd have made rep teams, been sought-after for previous contract negotiations (no one has ever come in for him). And you wouldn't have articles written showing bemusement when he won player of the year as 'most of the NRL' realise he's a mediocre player who's been given a free ride for 8 years