Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511399) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511390) said:
Hooker is so much more than their stats. The reasons many teams can send their wingers in un touched is because of good dummy half play. We don't do that. Our attack is slow, clunky and often goes to the right over and over again. This is because Liddle is simply not good. His service is so slow and he isn't good at engaging the markers and giving our forwards more room for hit ups like Farah could. He also gets gassed early in the game and regularly misses over 5 tackles. He's a bottom 3 starting hooker. We need higher standards.

He's not a bottom 3 Starting Hooker....
He's just not... He's in a bottom 3 side.
There is far worse hookers that played Finals last year.

Who?
 
@wildcat777 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511420) said:
In Rugby League defence wins games. Simple. If you don’t see that or understand that then this game is not for you.

however, note that you win the game even if the score is 1:0, against quality opponents (with good defence) you win more with the better defence
 
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511427) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511399) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511390) said:
Hooker is so much more than their stats. The reasons many teams can send their wingers in un touched is because of good dummy half play. We don't do that. Our attack is slow, clunky and often goes to the right over and over again. This is because Liddle is simply not good. His service is so slow and he isn't good at engaging the markers and giving our forwards more room for hit ups like Farah could. He also gets gassed early in the game and regularly misses over 5 tackles. He's a bottom 3 starting hooker. We need higher standards.

He's not a bottom 3 Starting Hooker....
He's just not... He's in a bottom 3 side.
There is far worse hookers that played Finals last year.

Who?

Lawton, Rein, Verrils, Stone, J Brailey...

Basically all the ones that aren't the 3-4 That everyone would want but doesn't have.
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511429) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511427) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511399) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511390) said:
Hooker is so much more than their stats. The reasons many teams can send their wingers in un touched is because of good dummy half play. We don't do that. Our attack is slow, clunky and often goes to the right over and over again. This is because Liddle is simply not good. His service is so slow and he isn't good at engaging the markers and giving our forwards more room for hit ups like Farah could. He also gets gassed early in the game and regularly misses over 5 tackles. He's a bottom 3 starting hooker. We need higher standards.

He's not a bottom 3 Starting Hooker....
He's just not... He's in a bottom 3 side.
There is far worse hookers that played Finals last year.

Who?

Lawton, Rein, Verrils, Stone, J Brailey...

Basically all the ones that aren't the 3-4 That everyone would want but doesn't have.

Lawton and Stone only played because those clubs first choice hookers weren't available. Brailey is better than liddle, Verrills is meh

Anyway the Liddle chat is getting tiring. He's not TERRIBLE but his stamina and passing clearly needs a lot of work. He's an NRL hooker but not a great one, end of the day everyone who supports tigers will be hoping he becomes a top quality player as long as he's with us along with Simpkin.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511431) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511429) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511427) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511399) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511390) said:
Hooker is so much more than their stats. The reasons many teams can send their wingers in un touched is because of good dummy half play. We don't do that. Our attack is slow, clunky and often goes to the right over and over again. This is because Liddle is simply not good. His service is so slow and he isn't good at engaging the markers and giving our forwards more room for hit ups like Farah could. He also gets gassed early in the game and regularly misses over 5 tackles. He's a bottom 3 starting hooker. We need higher standards.

He's not a bottom 3 Starting Hooker....
He's just not... He's in a bottom 3 side.
There is far worse hookers that played Finals last year.

Who?

Lawton, Rein, Verrils, Stone, J Brailey...

Basically all the ones that aren't the 3-4 That everyone would want but doesn't have.

Lawton and Stone only played because those clubs first choice hookers weren't available. Brailey is better than liddle, Verrills is meh

Anyway the Liddle chat is getting tiring. He's not TERRIBLE but his stamina and passing clearly needs a lot of work. He's an NRL hooker but not a great one, end of the day everyone who supports tigers will be hoping he becomes a top quality player as long as he's with us along with Simpkin.

Brailey has had less injuries and played in better sides....
Doesn't make him a better player.

He does nothing....
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511432) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511431) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511429) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511427) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511399) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511390) said:
Hooker is so much more than their stats. The reasons many teams can send their wingers in un touched is because of good dummy half play. We don't do that. Our attack is slow, clunky and often goes to the right over and over again. This is because Liddle is simply not good. His service is so slow and he isn't good at engaging the markers and giving our forwards more room for hit ups like Farah could. He also gets gassed early in the game and regularly misses over 5 tackles. He's a bottom 3 starting hooker. We need higher standards.

He's not a bottom 3 Starting Hooker....
He's just not... He's in a bottom 3 side.
There is far worse hookers that played Finals last year.

Who?

Lawton, Rein, Verrils, Stone, J Brailey...

Basically all the ones that aren't the 3-4 That everyone would want but doesn't have.

Lawton and Stone only played because those clubs first choice hookers weren't available. Brailey is better than liddle, Verrills is meh

Anyway the Liddle chat is getting tiring. He's not TERRIBLE but his stamina and passing clearly needs a lot of work. He's an NRL hooker but not a great one, end of the day everyone who supports tigers will be hoping he becomes a top quality player as long as he's with us along with Simpkin.

Brailey has had less injuries and played in better sides....
Doesn't make him a better player.

He does nothing....

Personally I like him but we don't have to agree. Doesn't quite have the attacking skills but a good defender and provides good service, good reliable dummy half. Agree to disagree on it ??
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511383) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511382) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511378) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511377) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511376) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511373) said:
@bptiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511281) said:
Maybe liddle is gassed after 30 minutes, and maybe it’s because he’s doing the defence for the rest of our lazy forwards

Liddle is the new brooks. Every excuse in the book why his passing was horrendous. Why in key moments he wasn’t at dummy half, why he dropped of tackles, why he was gassed after 30 minutes. It’s everybody’s fault but his.

First sentence is dead on. He’s the new scapegoat.

He was terrible that’s what he was. Would happily drive him and brooks to redcliffe. Let’s give these guys another 5 years and see if they will improve. Wonder if brooks csn get to 500 games with no finals at the tigers. Can you imagine the banner and the party at Leichhardt oval for him.

10 line breaks for Liddle. One of our only shining lights in attack. If he was terrible, God knows how you would describe some others

Put his Stats beside Brandon Smith - A guy who's Spent his whole career in the top 4, Top Tier National representative and about to land a million dollars somewhere...

I don't see the Price tag difference in the work they do, Or the teams they play in.
There's only one Brandon Smith, And a couple others you'd bust the bank for. We're not in the market for them...
Liddle is as good - or better than we could sign - Or afford.

Everyone has just come to the conclusion that Simpkin is going to be a star, without having really stood out in the few games he’s played. I honestly can’t work out if the hate for Liddle is cos everyone loves Simpkin, or the love for Simpkin is cos they hate Liddle.

Why all this Liddle Simpkin crap ,can we not go into next season with Jacob starting and Jake coming of the bench , why play them against one another all the time
 
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1510916) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1510913) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1510900) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1510899) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1510889) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1510887) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1510198) said:
@tigerballs
What's good !?

Sorry mate, don't have an update but I'd say our chances are improving after LL signing. I don't think we'll know anything until the borders open. I heard the Cowboys are shopping Jordan McLean around. If they can't offload him they won't be able to offer Luki or Nanai anything decent. I'd double down and go for the both of them.

Great idea.
Realistic too.

McLean - no thanks.

Thanks for posting.

Better off shopping in Doubles - Especially if we're asking young blokes to re-locate.
Much more chance of it happening if a best mate is coming with them.

I've also had this opinion when shopping O/S, Cherry picking is harder than pack hunting.

Is what we did with Simpkin / Hoffman.

They're probably mates with Tuki too.

A good judge told me the other day Christian Ma’anaima might be one of our best signings. We won't be chasing front rowers with Stef, Twal, Musgrove, Seyfarth and Ma'anaima Joffa and Tuki. Reckons Ma'anaima is as good as Stef!

Big wraps.
I'll keep em an eye on him.

@Terry-T-Nuts , ya did well !!

Get ready for a 6 foot 5 110 kg centre.
 
Back on the Twal debate a few pages earlier, I fully agree that he is not a lock.

I would like to see Peachey at 13 and Seyfarth as the bench lock that can shift to prop when required. I think both have better ball playing than Twal and would make for a better all round rotation in my opinion.

Long term (maybe when Peachey deal is done?) I would be interested to see if Rua Ngatikaura could play at lock while sharing the 9 with Simpkin. Word on the street is Rua is chunky and BSmith-like so could work, albeit I’ve never seen him play.

Just spitballing, but would prefer work something out internally than help doggies by subsidising Thompson
 
@barnzee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511435) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511383) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511382) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511378) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511377) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511376) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511373) said:
@bptiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511281) said:
Maybe liddle is gassed after 30 minutes, and maybe it’s because he’s doing the defence for the rest of our lazy forwards

Liddle is the new brooks. Every excuse in the book why his passing was horrendous. Why in key moments he wasn’t at dummy half, why he dropped of tackles, why he was gassed after 30 minutes. It’s everybody’s fault but his.

First sentence is dead on. He’s the new scapegoat.

He was terrible that’s what he was. Would happily drive him and brooks to redcliffe. Let’s give these guys another 5 years and see if they will improve. Wonder if brooks csn get to 500 games with no finals at the tigers. Can you imagine the banner and the party at Leichhardt oval for him.

10 line breaks for Liddle. One of our only shining lights in attack. If he was terrible, God knows how you would describe some others

Put his Stats beside Brandon Smith - A guy who's Spent his whole career in the top 4, Top Tier National representative and about to land a million dollars somewhere...

I don't see the Price tag difference in the work they do, Or the teams they play in.
There's only one Brandon Smith, And a couple others you'd bust the bank for. We're not in the market for them...
Liddle is as good - or better than we could sign - Or afford.

Everyone has just come to the conclusion that Simpkin is going to be a star, without having really stood out in the few games he’s played. I honestly can’t work out if the hate for Liddle is cos everyone loves Simpkin, or the love for Simpkin is cos they hate Liddle.

Why all this Liddle Simpkin crap ,can we not go into next season with Jacob starting and Jake coming of the bench , why play them against one another all the time

Do you not know they are highlanders?

“There can be only one”

But in seriousness - we can’t afford to carry two hookers on the bench
 
@shooter-mcgavin said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511446) said:
Back on the Twal debate a few pages earlier, I fully agree that he is not a lock.

I would like to see Peachey at 13 and Seyfarth as the bench lock that can shift to prop when required. I think both have better ball playing than Twal and would make for a better all round rotation in my opinion.

Long term (maybe when Peachey deal is done?) I would be interested to see if Rua Ngatikaura could play at lock while sharing the 9 with Simpkin. Word on the street is Rua is chunky and BSmith-like so could work, albeit I’ve never seen him play.

Just spitballing, but would prefer work something out internally than help doggies by subsidising Thompson

I’d swap them. Seyfarth starting with Peach coming on after 15-20 and Seyfarth moving to prop. He can play decent minutes with quality so will help the rotation. A fresh Peach in the middle of the half could be dangerous
 
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511448) said:
@shooter-mcgavin said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511446) said:
Back on the Twal debate a few pages earlier, I fully agree that he is not a lock.

I would like to see Peachey at 13 and Seyfarth as the bench lock that can shift to prop when required. I think both have better ball playing than Twal and would make for a better all round rotation in my opinion.

Long term (maybe when Peachey deal is done?) I would be interested to see if Rua Ngatikaura could play at lock while sharing the 9 with Simpkin. Word on the street is Rua is chunky and BSmith-like so could work, albeit I’ve never seen him play.

Just spitballing, but would prefer work something out internally than help doggies by subsidising Thompson

I’d swap them. Seyfarth starting with Peach coming on after 15-20 and Seyfarth moving to prop. He can play decent minutes with quality so will help the rotation. A fresh Peach in the middle of the half could be dangerous

That could be a spicy combo! Would be keen on that too
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511395) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511382) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511378) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511377) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511376) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511373) said:
@bptiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511281) said:
Maybe liddle is gassed after 30 minutes, and maybe it’s because he’s doing the defence for the rest of our lazy forwards

Liddle is the new brooks. Every excuse in the book why his passing was horrendous. Why in key moments he wasn’t at dummy half, why he dropped of tackles, why he was gassed after 30 minutes. It’s everybody’s fault but his.

First sentence is dead on. He’s the new scapegoat.

He was terrible that’s what he was. Would happily drive him and brooks to redcliffe. Let’s give these guys another 5 years and see if they will improve. Wonder if brooks csn get to 500 games with no finals at the tigers. Can you imagine the banner and the party at Leichhardt oval for him.

10 line breaks for Liddle. One of our only shining lights in attack. If he was terrible, God knows how you would describe some others

Put his Stats beside Brandon Smith - A guy who's Spent his whole career in the top 4, Top Tier National representative and about to land a million dollars somewhere...

I don't see the Price tag difference in the work they do, Or the teams they play in.
There's only one Brandon Smith, And a couple others you'd bust the bank for. We're not in the market for them...
Liddle is as good - or better than we could sign - Or afford.

I just don't get the Liddle bashing. His defence is as good as most starting hookers and I his passing game...someone in this forum started bagging him for no reason and a whole bunch of dimwits just joined in. Watch more than one game, then make a judgement.

I watched every game and was expecting much more then what I got from him. Does that still make me a dimwit or does that make you an imbecile. His defence was the second worst for a hooker in the NRL someone posted some stats before. And if you watched all his games and you think his passing is as good as most starting hookers then your an even bigger imbecile then I thought. I would love for him to do well, but 2021 was no stand out year for liddle.
 
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511451) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511395) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511382) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511378) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511377) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511376) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511373) said:
@bptiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511281) said:
Maybe liddle is gassed after 30 minutes, and maybe it’s because he’s doing the defence for the rest of our lazy forwards

Liddle is the new brooks. Every excuse in the book why his passing was horrendous. Why in key moments he wasn’t at dummy half, why he dropped of tackles, why he was gassed after 30 minutes. It’s everybody’s fault but his.

First sentence is dead on. He’s the new scapegoat.

He was terrible that’s what he was. Would happily drive him and brooks to redcliffe. Let’s give these guys another 5 years and see if they will improve. Wonder if brooks csn get to 500 games with no finals at the tigers. Can you imagine the banner and the party at Leichhardt oval for him.

10 line breaks for Liddle. One of our only shining lights in attack. If he was terrible, God knows how you would describe some others

Put his Stats beside Brandon Smith - A guy who's Spent his whole career in the top 4, Top Tier National representative and about to land a million dollars somewhere...

I don't see the Price tag difference in the work they do, Or the teams they play in.
There's only one Brandon Smith, And a couple others you'd bust the bank for. We're not in the market for them...
Liddle is as good - or better than we could sign - Or afford.

I just don't get the Liddle bashing. His defence is as good as most starting hookers and I his passing game...someone in this forum started bagging him for no reason and a whole bunch of dimwits just joined in. Watch more than one game, then make a judgement.

I watched every game and was expecting much more then what I got from him. Does that still make me a dimwit or does that make you an imbecile. His defence was the second worst for a hooker in the NRL someone posted some stats before. And if you watched all his games and you think his passing is as good as most starting hookers then your an even bigger imbecile then I thought. I would love for him to do well, but 2021 was no stand out year for liddle.

I’ve not seen anyone suggest that it was - all ive seen is posters unashamedly claim Simpkin is better (which he isn’t) and to move in Liddle - without naming a replacement….

Which is a whole new level of stupid
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511455) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511451) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511395) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511382) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511378) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511377) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511376) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511373) said:
@bptiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511281) said:
Maybe liddle is gassed after 30 minutes, and maybe it’s because he’s doing the defence for the rest of our lazy forwards

Liddle is the new brooks. Every excuse in the book why his passing was horrendous. Why in key moments he wasn’t at dummy half, why he dropped of tackles, why he was gassed after 30 minutes. It’s everybody’s fault but his.

First sentence is dead on. He’s the new scapegoat.

He was terrible that’s what he was. Would happily drive him and brooks to redcliffe. Let’s give these guys another 5 years and see if they will improve. Wonder if brooks csn get to 500 games with no finals at the tigers. Can you imagine the banner and the party at Leichhardt oval for him.

10 line breaks for Liddle. One of our only shining lights in attack. If he was terrible, God knows how you would describe some others

Put his Stats beside Brandon Smith - A guy who's Spent his whole career in the top 4, Top Tier National representative and about to land a million dollars somewhere...

I don't see the Price tag difference in the work they do, Or the teams they play in.
There's only one Brandon Smith, And a couple others you'd bust the bank for. We're not in the market for them...
Liddle is as good - or better than we could sign - Or afford.

I just don't get the Liddle bashing. His defence is as good as most starting hookers and I his passing game...someone in this forum started bagging him for no reason and a whole bunch of dimwits just joined in. Watch more than one game, then make a judgement.

I watched every game and was expecting much more then what I got from him. Does that still make me a dimwit or does that make you an imbecile. His defence was the second worst for a hooker in the NRL someone posted some stats before. And if you watched all his games and you think his passing is as good as most starting hookers then your an even bigger imbecile then I thought. I would love for him to do well, but 2021 was no stand out year for liddle.

I’ve not seen anyone suggest that it was - all ive seen is posters unashamedly claim Simpkin is better (which he isn’t) and to move in Liddle - without naming a replacement….

Which is a whole new level of stupid

Liddle has shown he can’t pass, poor defender and can’t play 80. Simpkin dominated junior grades and is 20. There is a reason the club is looking at moving Liddle. He’s not getting much better and his level is not of a first grade hooker.

Simpkin who is not NRL ready projects to be a much better player. He looks a season away to me but it may be sooner.
 
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511448) said:
@shooter-mcgavin said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511446) said:
Back on the Twal debate a few pages earlier, I fully agree that he is not a lock.

I would like to see Peachey at 13 and Seyfarth as the bench lock that can shift to prop when required. I think both have better ball playing than Twal and would make for a better all round rotation in my opinion.

Long term (maybe when Peachey deal is done?) I would be interested to see if Rua Ngatikaura could play at lock while sharing the 9 with Simpkin. Word on the street is Rua is chunky and BSmith-like so could work, albeit I’ve never seen him play.

Just spitballing, but would prefer work something out internally than help doggies by subsidising Thompson

I’d swap them. Seyfarth starting with Peach coming on after 15-20 and Seyfarth moving to prop. He can play decent minutes with quality so will help the rotation. A fresh Peach in the middle of the half could be dangerous

Seyfarth isn’t a lock his lateral defense was ordinary to say the least. He is a direct hitter and runner and should be in the middle. Locks should be 65-80min players. Seyfarth isn’t close to that. I think he can add value but we need to stop putting players in roles just because.

Blore would add more value as a lock than Seyfarth, he can hit side on, has good lateral movement and can 2nd phase play - also faster.

Blore has been the forgotten key player in our rotation with the Paps & Lucy talk. I think be is going to hit another level next year if he can have an injury free pre season with Laurie / Brooks running off him.
 
@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511461) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511455) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511451) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511395) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511382) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511378) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511377) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511376) said:
@tigerpower said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511373) said:
@bptiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1511281) said:
Maybe liddle is gassed after 30 minutes, and maybe it’s because he’s doing the defence for the rest of our lazy forwards

Liddle is the new brooks. Every excuse in the book why his passing was horrendous. Why in key moments he wasn’t at dummy half, why he dropped of tackles, why he was gassed after 30 minutes. It’s everybody’s fault but his.

First sentence is dead on. He’s the new scapegoat.

He was terrible that’s what he was. Would happily drive him and brooks to redcliffe. Let’s give these guys another 5 years and see if they will improve. Wonder if brooks csn get to 500 games with no finals at the tigers. Can you imagine the banner and the party at Leichhardt oval for him.

10 line breaks for Liddle. One of our only shining lights in attack. If he was terrible, God knows how you would describe some others

Put his Stats beside Brandon Smith - A guy who's Spent his whole career in the top 4, Top Tier National representative and about to land a million dollars somewhere...

I don't see the Price tag difference in the work they do, Or the teams they play in.
There's only one Brandon Smith, And a couple others you'd bust the bank for. We're not in the market for them...
Liddle is as good - or better than we could sign - Or afford.

I just don't get the Liddle bashing. His defence is as good as most starting hookers and I his passing game...someone in this forum started bagging him for no reason and a whole bunch of dimwits just joined in. Watch more than one game, then make a judgement.

I watched every game and was expecting much more then what I got from him. Does that still make me a dimwit or does that make you an imbecile. His defence was the second worst for a hooker in the NRL someone posted some stats before. And if you watched all his games and you think his passing is as good as most starting hookers then your an even bigger imbecile then I thought. I would love for him to do well, but 2021 was no stand out year for liddle.

I’ve not seen anyone suggest that it was - all ive seen is posters unashamedly claim Simpkin is better (which he isn’t) and to move in Liddle - without naming a replacement….

Which is a whole new level of stupid

Liddle has shown he can’t pass, poor defender and can’t play 80. Simpkin dominated junior grades and is 20. There is a reason the club is looking at moving Liddle. He’s not getting much better and his level is not of a first grade hooker.

Simpkin who is not NRL ready projects to be a much better player. He looks a season away to me but it may be sooner.

Getting a bit sick of this hate on liddle, I admit he was poor last year in passing, I have watched him since he started playing with us, and his passing has been sharp and of quality throughout his playing career, until this last season. Why the change?? Well have a look at physical changes in the last 12-18 months to particularly his arm muscle density. His arms are huge, I don’t know if u guys realise that with that amount of growth in a relatively short time would make your arms although stronger, u would lose flexibility and a bit of finesse. Give him a bit of time to adjust to his new guns and I believe u will see him get much better this season!
On his defence, as previously stated by other forum members, most of the time in the middle he is alone tackling a massive unit, where are the rest of his middles helping??? Again just a poor defensive team that liddle cops the bad raps for!!
On him being gassed, this is due to the great Madge bench rotation, or lack of it. He’s a massive impact player like cook. Cook took years till he played 80 minutes. Give him time after several years of injuries to adjust to the game,
On Simpkin, last season he was scoring heaps of try’s in reserves, mostly from dummy half crash overs and every one though he was the second coming! Then liddle was dropped to reserve grade and absolutely killer it. Scoring several try’s and setting up heaps(not just from crash overs.
Moral of the story is, don’t get caught up in the hype of Simpkin he may come good in time, but weigh to small and inexperienced for first grade yet. I’d be going with liddle and Peachey coming of the bench to give him a break for the first half of the year. Then maybe introduce Simpkin. But remember bringing liddle on early in his career made him get two shoulder reconstructions. Don’t push small built hookers in to early.
 
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Maybe liddle is gassed after 30 minutes, and maybe it’s because he’s doing the defence for the rest of our lazy forwards

Liddle is the new brooks. Every excuse in the book why his passing was horrendous. Why in key moments he wasn’t at dummy half, why he dropped of tackles, why he was gassed after 30 minutes. It’s everybody’s fault but his.

First sentence is dead on. He’s the new scapegoat.

He was terrible that’s what he was. Would happily drive him and brooks to redcliffe. Let’s give these guys another 5 years and see if they will improve. Wonder if brooks csn get to 500 games with no finals at the tigers. Can you imagine the banner and the party at Leichhardt oval for him.

10 line breaks for Liddle. One of our only shining lights in attack. If he was terrible, God knows how you would describe some others

Put his Stats beside Brandon Smith - A guy who's Spent his whole career in the top 4, Top Tier National representative and about to land a million dollars somewhere...

I don't see the Price tag difference in the work they do, Or the teams they play in.
There's only one Brandon Smith, And a couple others you'd bust the bank for. We're not in the market for them...
Liddle is as good - or better than we could sign - Or afford.

I just don't get the Liddle bashing. His defence is as good as most starting hookers and I his passing game...someone in this forum started bagging him for no reason and a whole bunch of dimwits just joined in. Watch more than one game, then make a judgement.

I watched every game and was expecting much more then what I got from him. Does that still make me a dimwit or does that make you an imbecile. His defence was the second worst for a hooker in the NRL someone posted some stats before. And if you watched all his games and you think his passing is as good as most starting hookers then your an even bigger imbecile then I thought. I would love for him to do well, but 2021 was no stand out year for liddle.

I’ve not seen anyone suggest that it was - all ive seen is posters unashamedly claim Simpkin is better (which he isn’t) and to move in Liddle - without naming a replacement….

Which is a whole new level of stupid

Liddle has shown he can’t pass, poor defender and can’t play 80. Simpkin dominated junior grades and is 20. There is a reason the club is looking at moving Liddle. He’s not getting much better and his level is not of a first grade hooker.

Simpkin who is not NRL ready projects to be a much better player. He looks a season away to me but it may be sooner.

Getting a bit sick of this hate on liddle, I admit he was poor last year in passing, I have watched him since he started playing with us, and his passing has been sharp and of quality throughout his playing career, until this last season. Why the change?? Well have a look at physical changes in the last 12-18 months to particularly his arm muscle density. His arms are huge, I don’t know if u guys realise that with that amount of growth in a relatively short time would make your arms although stronger, u would lose flexibility and a bit of finesse. Give him a bit of time to adjust to his new guns and I believe u will see him get much better this season!
On his defence, as previously stated by other forum members, most of the time in the middle he is alone tackling a massive unit, where are the rest of his middles helping??? Again just a poor defensive team that liddle cops the bad raps for!!
On him being gassed, this is due to the great Madge bench rotation, or lack of it. He’s a massive impact player like cook. Cook took years till he played 80 minutes. Give him time after several years of injuries to adjust to the game,
On Simpkin, last season he was scoring heaps of try’s in reserves, mostly from dummy half crash overs and every one though he was the second coming! Then liddle was dropped to reserve grade and absolutely killer it. Scoring several try’s and setting up heaps(not just from crash overs.
Moral of the story is, don’t get caught up in the hype of Simpkin he may come good in time, but weigh to small and inexperienced for first grade yet. I’d be going with liddle and Peachey coming of the bench to give him a break for the first half of the year. Then maybe introduce Simpkin. But remember bringing liddle on early in his career made him get two shoulder reconstructions. Don’t push small built hookers in to early.

I’ve seen some reasonable local players hit the gym and bulk up and I noticed initially that they all seem to lose stamina and seem off the pace. Could be just their mindset maybe
 
What the hell is going on with this thread. I thought It was to talk about signing rumours or suggestions based on who's available. Why are there 10 plus pages of talk about Liddle and bloody stats or where someone got them from about him. BORING!
 

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