Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

liltiger said:
Only leeway he would be given is because of the years of mismanagement, poor recruitment and poor coaching before him. Excluding Maguire and Cleary who both had the squads available to them playing above their ability.
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That's true, and I'm not expecting some sort of miracle. But, he sacked the coach under contract and then appointed himself. If it all goes to crap with a team you point the finger at the coach or the bloke who appointed the coach or the bloke who signed the players.

Hopefully it works, he's our saviour and gets all credit due.
 
hammertime said:
I would have thought that the Wests Ashfield directors could be voted out via members at the leagues club? I.e. voting out from Wests Ashfield would remove them from being able to serve on the tigers board. No? I could be wrong..
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No , they could be ousted from the leagues club board but still be appointed on the football club board.
 
hammertime said:
I would have thought that the Wests Ashfield directors could be voted out via members at the leagues club? I.e. voting out from Wests Ashfield would remove them from being able to serve on the tigers board. No? I could be wrong..
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It is much more complicated than that.
The Wests Tigers Board allows for up to 8 board members. The consist of the board allows for the following:

  • 2 Independent Directors
  • 1 Nominated by WSDRLFC (aka Wests Magpies)
  • 4 Nominated by WSLC (aka Wests Ashfield Leagues)
  • 1 Nominated by BTRLFC (aka Balmain Tigers)

Note that Wests Ashfield controls the WSDRLFC as well, so they have the majority of the seats on the board. The 2 independent directors are aapointed by the rest of the board.

Wests Ashfield has 7 members on its board and only 2 of those are appointed by the general members of the club, the other 5 come from the 20 current Debenture Holders.

* Wests Ashfield is now known as the Holman Barnes Group.

There is nothing anyone can do to change the board make up of our club,
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
jesse ramien on the cards irrespective of Mitch or Brooks signing in 2024, we have the cash for that
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Ramien didn't last at the Knights and went back to the Sharks. He now knows that the grass isn't always greener on the other side so why would he leave the sharks again?
 
liltiger said:
Not necessarily, If both agree we sign who we want and tell the other sorry thanks but too late.
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True but that creates problems.
"hey you offered me 650,000 now you are taking the offer away."

Maybe it isn't a too big a problem. But when it's already difficult to lure quality to the club you don't want players doubting your offers. Not a big problem but could turn into an issue.

Remember the agents stay around for decades while the players go pretty quick.

While we have the money tied up with Moses, it's not as free to offer to other people.
 
clontarfkid said:
What on field position does Sheens play these days...?
..and for that matter Benji.
Someone needs to organise the plays ON the field(that covers both our bases!)..and we dont have anyone remotely capable of that atm.Just Brooks and Douhi...
Improved defence critical after our numerous beltings last season... where coaching can make the biggest difference is defence structures..and of course attitude..neither Sheens nor Benji were renowned for being at the leading edge in this key area
So it will be an interesting year to say the least
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Ha, yes

Sheens is not known for coaching structures let alone defensive structures. IMHO attitude wise Sheens can do it for sure (look at our signings), is he doing this now? ??

That said, Sheens and Benji need to be able to develop play makers. If they can't, FIRE THEM! Moses clearly improved going to Parramatta, likewise I expect Brooks and Doueihi to improve under Benji and Sheens. They are coaches and Both Brooks and Doueihi have talent, not perfect and have problems. Yet they have talent.

Sheens and Benji are not on the field, don't care.
The buck stops with them. With the Squad we have recruited this year the buck stops with them, even if there is no Moses. We should be seeing Tigers cross the line else why have we hired them.
 
crazycat said:
Ha, yes

Sheens is not known for coaching structures let alone defensive structures. IMHO attitude wise Sheens can do it for sure (look at our signings), is he doing this now? ??

That said, Sheens and Benji need to be able to develop play makers. If they can't, FIRE THEM! Moses clearly improved going to Parramatta, likewise I expect Brooks and Doueihi to improve under Benji and Sheens. They are coaches and Both Brooks and Doueihi have talent, not perfect and have problems. Yet they have talent.

Sheens and Benji are not on the field, don't care.
The buck stops with them. With the Squad we have recruited this year the buck stops with them, even if there is no Moses. We should be seeing Tigers cross the line else why have we hired them.
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No 1 - They have only started recruitment, more to come.
No 2- Sheens said 2025, that's how long it takes to go from bottom to top 8.
No 3 - The club has got 5 new players to meld into a unit,- it will take time.
No 4- You are unrealistic if you think a brand new coaching staff, will turn the side around in a few months
No 5- Sheens and coaching structures, and how poor Sheens is. Get a life and stop bagging, he won 4 premierships !
 
if only we could get the dragons to take Seyfarth and Twal off us.... we'd be rid of every plodder.

Geeze they look ordinary against Souths.

And yes - all the Twal fans - he's a plodder.
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
How would putting a deadline allow us to entice other players over not putting a deadline?
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It’s not hard. How can you talk to other players regarding dollars when you have a guy you’ve got a massive offer out to not committing? Pretty hard to plan who you can talk to.

Force the guys hand. We’re in the box seat. If he doesn’t want to be $2 million in front that’s fine. Go after someone else.

Again, not hard guys.
 
This talk about putting a deadline on Moses is nonsense. If you impose a deadline, you need a realistic reason for doing so. That is something will happen at that point in time which will affect the Moses offer.
 
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twentyforty said:
This talk about putting a deadline on Moses is nonsense. If you impose a deadline, you need a realistic reason for doing so. That is something will happen at that point in time which will affect the Moses offer.
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Agreed. Our recruitment approach has worked well to date. Why would you vary it?
 
Tito Santana said:
It’s not hard. How can you talk to other players regarding dollars when you have a guy you’ve got a massive offer out to not committing? Pretty hard to plan who you can talk to.

Force the guys hand. We’re in the box seat. If he doesn’t want to be $2 million in front that’s fine. Go after someone else.

Again, not hard guys.
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I think you have too many hits in the ring Tito!

The first one who signs. E.g. RTS or welsby might be the marque, not Moses. Laurie to 6. You're suggesting they play checkers, when the recruitment game is more akin to chess.
 
Tito Santana said:
Agreed. So make a deadline as to when you plan to give him to. His signing or non signing has a knock on effect to how we resource other positions. I wouldn’t be letting him drag on any further. I’m surprised Douhei resigned with so much uncertainty about Moses. Brave really. I would have left to go elsewhere. Increase my pay on the basis Moses falls through the Tigers are rooted for a 5/8.

I make sense.
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Think thee is no "elsewhere"atm for Douhi...its wait and see for everybody,includind WTS
 
Tigersmurf said:
Ramien didn't last at the Knights and went back to the Sharks. He now knows that the grass isn't always greener on the other side so why would he leave the sharks again?
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$$$..motivates most.
Doesnt have to levae home and family to come to WTs
 
hammertime said:
cochise said:
It is much more complicated than that.
The Wests Tigers Board allows for up to 8 board members. The consist of the board allows for the following:

  • 2 Independent Directors
  • 1 Nominated by WSDRLFC (aka Wests Magpies)
  • 4 Nominated by WSLC (aka Wests Ashfield Leagues)
  • 1 Nominated by BTRLFC (aka Balmain Tigers)

Note that Wests Ashfield controls the WSDRLFC as well, so they have the majority of the seats on the board. The 2 independent directors are aapointed by the rest of the board.

Wests Ashfield has 7 members on its board and only 2 of those are appointed by the general members of the club, the other 5 come from the 20 current Debenture Holders.

* Wests Ashfield is now known as the Holman Barnes Group.

There is nothing anyone can do to change the board make up of our club,
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I would have thought that the Wests Ashfield directors could be voted out via members at the leagues club? I.e. voting out from Wests Ashfield would remove them from being able to serve on the tigers board. No? I could be wrong..
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Exactly - and for those who believe the Wt Board is a boys club you would loathe the fact that the Wests Ashfield board is the quintessential boys club.
 
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