Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[TigerWest]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

He only blocks anyone if he is the better player, but isn’t that what we are after?

No he also takes a Top 30 spot and $ which can be utilised on more effective players.

Maybe, but quality players are not available atm and besides you seem to think he is past it, is he, he is a GF winger?
I’ll support the club in what ever move they make, they seem to have an extensive brain’s trust available.

He's a GF winger that was shown up for lack of pace. We don't need another clone. There is no rush to spend the money. A player will become available that better meets our requirements.

If that’s the case, so be it. As long as we can improve the position, I don’t have a problem.

 

[bathursttiger1]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

The problem is we have 3 positions to fill
And must spend 95% of our cap
Obviously there are a number of ways to do this
I am not certain of the cut off dates for signings

So we wait and hope for a superstar
Sign 3 young guys
Or cheap experienced heads
Even a combination of the above

I would hate to be a coach
The back lash they cop and pressure to succeed

I wonder who people think is the better player

Robert Jennings
Josh Mansour
Jordan Rankin
Mwz
Mahe Fonoa
Keith Lulia
Kevin Naiqama

All wingers

Actually that's a terrible list of players
No wonder people expect better

The new cut off date is to have 30 players signed by November 1, due to Covid.
I think you have to have 29 by March, it was explained in “Meet the Boss episode 2”.

 

[Tigercrb]

I’ll say it again, if we go into round 1 with Kepoa as our first choice left winger, we’re in trouble. He has not yet earned that position. Neither has Talau really.

I’d say yes to Mansour for 1 year, with another year option in the club’s favour on lowish dollars. If Kepoa and co can outplay him and push him to reserves so be it, but at the moment Mansour is twice the winger that Kepoa or Talau are.

Mansour is being pushed out of penrith because he is on big $$$ for the next 2 years. So he won't leave for 1 year, with another in the clubs favour. He will stay and play reserve grade. Only way he comes to the tigers is on same $$$ and he probably wants an extra year, according to reports.

He is also blocking a pathway for their young winger.

All these problems become ours, if we take him, even at discount. It would be a step backwards from the way our recruitment is currently headed.

 

[kiwitiger]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

He only blocks anyone if he is the better player, but isn’t that what we are after?

No he also takes a Top 30 spot and $ which can be utilised on more effective players.

Maybe, but quality players are not available atm and besides you seem to think he is past it, is he, he is a GF winger?
I’ll support the club in what ever move they make, they seem to have an extensive brain’s trust available.

He's a GF winger that was shown up for lack of pace. We don't need another clone. There is no rush to spend the money. A player will become available that better meets our requirements.

yeah Josh is a loser. Only made it to the GF. What does that make the team that hasn't made the 8 in 9 years...or 3 in 21 years. That loser probably thinks we are bigger losers and one of the last choices on his list. Lets be honest, Josh is better than what we have...otherwise we have punt on a kid with bad hands.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

He only blocks anyone if he is the better player, but isn’t that what we are after?

No he also takes a Top 30 spot and $ which can be utilised on more effective players.

Maybe, but quality players are not available atm and besides you seem to think he is past it, is he, he is a GF winger?
I’ll support the club in what ever move they make, they seem to have an extensive brain’s trust available.

He's a GF winger that was shown up for lack of pace. We don't need another clone. There is no rush to spend the money. A player will become available that better meets our requirements.

yeah Josh is a loser. Only made it to the GF. What does that make the team that hasn't made the 8 in 9 years...or 3 in 21 years. That loser probably thinks we are bigger losers and one of the last choices on his list. Lets be honest, Josh is better than what we have...otherwise we have punt on a kid with bad hands.

The game is getting faster, he is getting slower. Father time catches up with all players. Why make Penrith's problem ours?

Your comment about Kepaoa's hands, wasn't it posted on this forum he had an operation to correct blurred vision? Kepaoa is a wonderful talent, that pace, power and finishing was exciting to watch. He won't learn by playing ISP.

 

[TigerWest]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

He only blocks anyone if he is the better player, but isn’t that what we are after?

No he also takes a Top 30 spot and $ which can be utilised on more effective players.

Maybe, but quality players are not available atm and besides you seem to think he is past it, is he, he is a GF winger?
I’ll support the club in what ever move they make, they seem to have an extensive brain’s trust available.

He's a GF winger that was shown up for lack of pace. We don't need another clone. There is no rush to spend the money. A player will become available that better meets our requirements.

yeah Josh is a loser. Only made it to the GF. What does that make the team that hasn't made the 8 in 9 years...or 3 in 21 years. That loser probably thinks we are bigger losers and one of the last choices on his list. Lets be honest, Josh is better than what we have...otherwise we have punt on a kid with bad hands.

The game is getting faster, he is getting slower. Father time catches up with all players. Why make Penrith's problem ours?

He’s probably still quicker between the ears than most though.

 

[Hangonaminute]

Getting B.Smith will be the difference between us being a top 4 side or being a bottom 8 side for the next 10 years.
Imo we can't wait 3yrs to see if one of our current 9s is a rep player then go looking for one if they're not.

This is the biggest get the club could pull off for a long time

 

[kiwitiger]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

He only blocks anyone if he is the better player, but isn’t that what we are after?

No he also takes a Top 30 spot and $ which can be utilised on more effective players.

Maybe, but quality players are not available atm and besides you seem to think he is past it, is he, he is a GF winger?
I’ll support the club in what ever move they make, they seem to have an extensive brain’s trust available.

He's a GF winger that was shown up for lack of pace. We don't need another clone. There is no rush to spend the money. A player will become available that better meets our requirements.

yeah Josh is a loser. Only made it to the GF. What does that make the team that hasn't made the 8 in 9 years...or 3 in 21 years. That loser probably thinks we are bigger losers and one of the last choices on his list. Lets be honest, Josh is better than what we have...otherwise we have punt on a kid with bad hands.

The game is getting faster, he is getting slower. Father time catches up with all players. Why make Penrith's problem ours?

Your comment about Kepaoa's hands, wasn't it posted on this forum he had an operation to correct blurred vision? Kepaoa is a wonderful talent, that pace, power and finishing was exciting to watch. He won't learn by playing ISP.

To be honest correcting fundamental mistakes should be done in ISP. He wasn't ready...thats why the roosters let him go. No problem giving him a taste but should not be first choice.

 

[cochise]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

The problem is we have 3 positions to fill
And must spend 95% of our cap
Obviously there are a number of ways to do this
I am not certain of the cut off dates for signings

So we wait and hope for a superstar
Sign 3 young guys
Or cheap experienced heads
Even a combination of the above

I would hate to be a coach
The back lash they cop and pressure to succeed

I wonder who people think is the better player

Robert Jennings
Josh Mansour
Jordan Rankin
Mwz
Mahe Fonoa
Keith Lulia
Kevin Naiqama

All wingers

Actually that's a terrible list of players
No wonder people expect better


The new cut off date is to have 30 players signed by November 1, due to Covid.
I think you have to have 29 by March, it was explained in “Meet the Boss episode 2”.

30 by August 1, looking likely to be 28 until then.

 

[cochise]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

He only blocks anyone if he is the better player, but isn’t that what we are after?

No he also takes a Top 30 spot and $ which can be utilised on more effective players.

Maybe, but quality players are not available atm and besides you seem to think he is past it, is he, he is a GF winger?
I’ll support the club in what ever move they make, they seem to have an extensive brain’s trust available.

He's a GF winger that was shown up for lack of pace. We don't need another clone. There is no rush to spend the money. A player will become available that better meets our requirements.

yeah Josh is a loser. Only made it to the GF. What does that make the team that hasn't made the 8 in 9 years...or 3 in 21 years. That loser probably thinks we are bigger losers and one of the last choices on his list. Lets be honest, Josh is better than what we have...otherwise we have punt on a kid with bad hands.

The game is getting faster, he is getting slower. Father time catches up with all players. Why make Penrith's problem ours?

Your comment about Kepaoa's hands, wasn't it posted on this forum he had an operation to correct blurred vision? Kepaoa is a wonderful talent, that pace, power and finishing was exciting to watch. He won't learn by playing ISP.

Correct, had an issue with the muscles around his eyes that made his vision blurry when looking up.

 

[Russell]

I would say the Mansour talk is just trying not to burn bridges incase Nofo deal falls through. I don't think we have any intentions in Mansour once he resigns which most people believe he's close to.

I don’t think one relates to the other

Nofoaluma is a right winger
Mansour is a left winger
Both bring the ball back hard
Both solid wingers
And not a bad combination on our edges
I wouldn't be upset getting Mansour at all for a year or 2 max

We dont really have any world class players in our team and I don't think we should be paying a million dollars for one either
A couple of players on the edge of greatness would be good
If Nofoaluma sticks around, and we get Mansour along with the fullback we signed from Penrith or Mbye, I wouldn't mind going real hard for both Crichton and Staggs
That would have to be close to the best back 5 in the Nrl
Then If Doueihi can kick on in the halves with Brooks, our one to seven could be set
Our Front row looks great on paper
We have two quality Hookers to choose from
Only real weakness would be our back row but I think we could find someone from within
Lj has one spot so really just after one more good back rower as we have a little depth in Garner

Crichton and Staggs would end up being just as good if not better than Gasnier and Cooper
Or Ettinghausen and McGraw

They would form a lethal combination

Mansour would be a retrograde step and all the good work done by the WTs would be undone. We don't need another slow winger who can't tackle. We already have Nofoaluma. We should be working overtime training our best youngsters to ready them for the NRL. Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can't because of his pace. Pace brings a whole new dimens ion to both the attack and defence.

Mate!!!!

Nofo scored 17 tries this year - but he can't score tries.

Give us a break ... I know you don't like him and you want a young bloke in his place .... but really, let's not make things up.

Not everyone can score an 90 metre try, in fact very few.


How many did he let in? The support you give him you would believe him to be the complete winger. Do you believe at 27 it is too much to ask of him to be a competent defender? Don't you want our team to improve? I do not support WTs because Nofoaluma is in the team. Have you ever wondered why he has not played SOO. I note you don't mind putting the boot into JAC . He is far superior to Nofoaluma. That is the reality.

Now hang on a minute, you said and I quote ***"Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can’t because of his pace."***

Doesn't matter if he let in 400 tries in one game, that was not your statement - YOU SAID, he can't score them because of his pace.

I pointed out that he had scored 17 tries this season. I think that is proof he can score tries with/without pace.

Put the boot into JAC - yes because he is screwing us around for the second time - he either wants to play for us or he doesn't. I don't care how fast or slow he is, I don't care if he wants to play FB / Winger or left right out, I don't care if he has family issues, I don't care if he wants to stay in Melbourne, I don't care if he is far superior to Noffo in your eyes.The question is ....Do you want to play for the Tigers JAC? If you do, why did you not sign for 2022 at least.

I don't like guys who play you for a sucker and get away with it - he is just another Latrine.

 

[tigertye]

If we're prepared to pay Smith equivalent to a good hooker then play him as a 13 his purchase would strengthen the team. I would not be swapping either of our hookers as they are both very good. A monetary compensation to the Storm is the preferred option.

While I agree about our hookers, and agree that I'd love to have Brandon at 13 here - it just won't happen.

The guy speaks so passionately about the Storm, and his desire to play hooker is the biggest motive for the move I believe. He won't take splitting the hooking role or 13 IMO.

Guess money talks, but doesn't strike me like that kinda guy.

He’s a way better 13 than 9, but still a very good hooker.

I’m curious whether he’d be willing to start at 9 and move to 13 throughout the game, but come to us on a quality 9’s salary. Playing a roving role at 13. He may want a permanent hooker role, but the extra cash may make him consider it.

 

[Geo]

What is with the sudden desire for players to dictate to the Coach what position they want to play..

 

[Russell]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

He only blocks anyone if he is the better player, but isn’t that what we are after?

No he also takes a Top 30 spot and $ which can be utilised on more effective players.

Maybe, but quality players are not available atm and besides you seem to think he is past it, is he, he is a GF winger?
I’ll support the club in what ever move they make, they seem to have an extensive brain’s trust available.

He's a GF winger that was shown up for lack of pace. We don't need another clone. There is no rush to spend the money. A player will become available that better meets our requirements.

yeah Josh is a loser. Only made it to the GF. What does that make the team that hasn't made the 8 in 9 years...or 3 in 21 years. That loser probably thinks we are bigger losers and one of the last choices on his list. Lets be honest, Josh is better than what we have...otherwise we have punt on a kid with bad hands.

If he thinks that - he can go and bag his head.

 

[Russell]

Getting B.Smith will be the difference between us being a top 4 side or being a bottom 8 side for the next 10 years.
Imo we can't wait 3yrs to see if one of our current 9s is a rep player then go looking for one if they're not.

This is the biggest get the club could pull off for a long time

Disagree - he is not as good a DH as Liddle - good at a lot of other things but his passing from the ruck is rank.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I would say the Mansour talk is just trying not to burn bridges incase Nofo deal falls through. I don't think we have any intentions in Mansour once he resigns which most people believe he's close to.

I don’t think one relates to the other

Nofoaluma is a right winger
Mansour is a left winger
Both bring the ball back hard
Both solid wingers
And not a bad combination on our edges
I wouldn't be upset getting Mansour at all for a year or 2 max

We dont really have any world class players in our team and I don't think we should be paying a million dollars for one either
A couple of players on the edge of greatness would be good
If Nofoaluma sticks around, and we get Mansour along with the fullback we signed from Penrith or Mbye, I wouldn't mind going real hard for both Crichton and Staggs
That would have to be close to the best back 5 in the Nrl
Then If Doueihi can kick on in the halves with Brooks, our one to seven could be set
Our Front row looks great on paper
We have two quality Hookers to choose from
Only real weakness would be our back row but I think we could find someone from within
Lj has one spot so really just after one more good back rower as we have a little depth in Garner

Crichton and Staggs would end up being just as good if not better than Gasnier and Cooper
Or Ettinghausen and McGraw

They would form a lethal combination

Mansour would be a retrograde step and all the good work done by the WTs would be undone. We don't need another slow winger who can't tackle. We already have Nofoaluma. We should be working overtime training our best youngsters to ready them for the NRL. Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can't because of his pace. Pace brings a whole new dimens ion to both the attack and defence.

Mate!!!!

Nofo scored 17 tries this year - but he can't score tries.

Give us a break ... I know you don't like him and you want a young bloke in his place .... but really, let's not make things up.

Not everyone can score an 90 metre try, in fact very few.


How many did he let in? The support you give him you would believe him to be the complete winger. Do you believe at 27 it is too much to ask of him to be a competent defender? Don't you want our team to improve? I do not support WTs because Nofoaluma is in the team. Have you ever wondered why he has not played SOO. I note you don't mind putting the boot into JAC . He is far superior to Nofoaluma. That is the reality.

Now hang on a minute, you said and I quote ***"Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can’t because of his pace."***

Doesn't matter if he let in 400 tries in one game, that was not your statement - YOU SAID, he can't score them because of his pace.

I pointed out that he had scored 17 tries this season. I think that is proof he can score tries with/without pace.

Put the boot into JAC - yes because he is screwing us around for the second time - he either wants to play for us or he doesn't. I don't care how fast or slow he is, I don't care if he wants to play FB / Winger or left right out, I don't care if he has family issues, I don't care if he wants to stay in Melbourne, I don't care if he is far superior to Noffo in your eyes.The question is ....Do you want to play for the Tigers JAC? If you do, why did you not sign for 2022 at least.

I don't like guys who play you for a sucker and get away with it - he is just another Latrine.

Kepaoa has demonstrated with his pace he can score tries Nofoaluma couldn't or, Nofoaluma couldn't score some of the tries. kepaoa did because he does not have Kepaoa's pace. That is significant normally but amplified as the game becomes faster.

You have overlooked Nofoaluma's defence (again) Not much point as a 27. year old with numerous NRL games scoring 17 if more are scored against you. Someone posted the number earlier in the day.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

He only blocks anyone if he is the better player, but isn’t that what we are after?

No he also takes a Top 30 spot and $ which can be utilised on more effective players.

Maybe, but quality players are not available atm and besides you seem to think he is past it, is he, he is a GF winger?
I’ll support the club in what ever move they make, they seem to have an extensive brain’s trust available.

He's a GF winger that was shown up for lack of pace. We don't need another clone. There is no rush to spend the money. A player will become available that better meets our requirements.

yeah Josh is a loser. Only made it to the GF. What does that make the team that hasn't made the 8 in 9 years...or 3 in 21 years. That loser probably thinks we are bigger losers and one of the last choices on his list. Lets be honest, Josh is better than what we have...otherwise we have punt on a kid with bad hands.

The game is getting faster, he is getting slower. Father time catches up with all players. Why make Penrith's problem ours?

Your comment about Kepaoa's hands, wasn't it posted on this forum he had an operation to correct blurred vision? Kepaoa is a wonderful talent, that pace, power and finishing was exciting to watch. He won't learn by playing ISP.

To be honest correcting fundamental mistakes should be done in ISP. He wasn't ready...thats why the roosters let him go. No problem giving him a taste but should not be first choice.

As you know, we aren't as fortunate as the Roosters to have their depth of talent. Still Kepaoa is a very fine player albeit raw and smart recruitment. Tahu will work with him and I hope he has a great career at WTs.

 

[compensate]

I would say the Mansour talk is just trying not to burn bridges incase Nofo deal falls through. I don't think we have any intentions in Mansour once he resigns which most people believe he's close to.

I don’t think one relates to the other

Nofoaluma is a right winger
Mansour is a left winger
Both bring the ball back hard
Both solid wingers
And not a bad combination on our edges
I wouldn't be upset getting Mansour at all for a year or 2 max

We dont really have any world class players in our team and I don't think we should be paying a million dollars for one either
A couple of players on the edge of greatness would be good
If Nofoaluma sticks around, and we get Mansour along with the fullback we signed from Penrith or Mbye, I wouldn't mind going real hard for both Crichton and Staggs
That would have to be close to the best back 5 in the Nrl
Then If Doueihi can kick on in the halves with Brooks, our one to seven could be set
Our Front row looks great on paper
We have two quality Hookers to choose from
Only real weakness would be our back row but I think we could find someone from within
Lj has one spot so really just after one more good back rower as we have a little depth in Garner

Crichton and Staggs would end up being just as good if not better than Gasnier and Cooper
Or Ettinghausen and McGraw

They would form a lethal combination

Mansour would be a retrograde step and all the good work done by the WTs would be undone. We don't need another slow winger who can't tackle. We already have Nofoaluma. We should be working overtime training our best youngsters to ready them for the NRL. Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can't because of his pace. Pace brings a whole new dimens ion to both the attack and defence.

Mate!!!!

Nofo scored 17 tries this year - but he can't score tries.

Give us a break ... I know you don't like him and you want a young bloke in his place .... but really, let's not make things up.

Not everyone can score an 90 metre try, in fact very few.


How many did he let in? The support you give him you would believe him to be the complete winger. Do you believe at 27 it is too much to ask of him to be a competent defender? Don't you want our team to improve? I do not support WTs because Nofoaluma is in the team. Have you ever wondered why he has not played SOO. I note you don't mind putting the boot into JAC . He is far superior to Nofoaluma. That is the reality.

Now hang on a minute, you said and I quote ***"Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can’t because of his pace."***

Doesn't matter if he let in 400 tries in one game, that was not your statement - YOU SAID, he can't score them because of his pace.

I pointed out that he had scored 17 tries this season. I think that is proof he can score tries with/without pace.

Put the boot into JAC - yes because he is screwing us around for the second time - he either wants to play for us or he doesn't. I don't care how fast or slow he is, I don't care if he wants to play FB / Winger or left right out, I don't care if he has family issues, I don't care if he wants to stay in Melbourne, I don't care if he is far superior to Noffo in your eyes.The question is ....Do you want to play for the Tigers JAC? If you do, why did you not sign for 2022 at least.

I don't like guys who play you for a sucker and get away with it - he is just another Latrine.

Kepaoa has demonstrated with his pace he can score tries Nofoaluma couldn't or, Nofoaluma couldn't score some of the tries. kepaoa did because he does not have Kepaoa's pace. That is significant normally but amplified as the game becomes faster.

You have overlooked Nofoaluma's defence (again) Not much point as a 27. year old with numerous NRL games scoring 17 if more are scored against you. Someone posted the number earlier in the day.

Nofoaluma was the Dally M winger of the year for a reason...

 

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I would say the Mansour talk is just trying not to burn bridges incase Nofo deal falls through. I don't think we have any intentions in Mansour once he resigns which most people believe he's close to.

I don’t think one relates to the other

Nofoaluma is a right winger
Mansour is a left winger
Both bring the ball back hard
Both solid wingers
And not a bad combination on our edges
I wouldn't be upset getting Mansour at all for a year or 2 max

We dont really have any world class players in our team and I don't think we should be paying a million dollars for one either
A couple of players on the edge of greatness would be good
If Nofoaluma sticks around, and we get Mansour along with the fullback we signed from Penrith or Mbye, I wouldn't mind going real hard for both Crichton and Staggs
That would have to be close to the best back 5 in the Nrl
Then If Doueihi can kick on in the halves with Brooks, our one to seven could be set
Our Front row looks great on paper
We have two quality Hookers to choose from
Only real weakness would be our back row but I think we could find someone from within
Lj has one spot so really just after one more good back rower as we have a little depth in Garner

Crichton and Staggs would end up being just as good if not better than Gasnier and Cooper
Or Ettinghausen and McGraw

They would form a lethal combination

Mansour would be a retrograde step and all the good work done by the WTs would be undone. We don't need another slow winger who can't tackle. We already have Nofoaluma. We should be working overtime training our best youngsters to ready them for the NRL. Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can't because of his pace. Pace brings a whole new dimens ion to both the attack and defence.

Mate!!!!

Nofo scored 17 tries this year - but he can't score tries.

Give us a break ... I know you don't like him and you want a young bloke in his place .... but really, let's not make things up.

Not everyone can score an 90 metre try, in fact very few.


How many did he let in? The support you give him you would believe him to be the complete winger. Do you believe at 27 it is too much to ask of him to be a competent defender? Don't you want our team to improve? I do not support WTs because Nofoaluma is in the team. Have you ever wondered why he has not played SOO. I note you don't mind putting the boot into JAC . He is far superior to Nofoaluma. That is the reality.

Now hang on a minute, you said and I quote ***"Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can’t because of his pace."***

Doesn't matter if he let in 400 tries in one game, that was not your statement - YOU SAID, he can't score them because of his pace.

I pointed out that he had scored 17 tries this season. I think that is proof he can score tries with/without pace.

Put the boot into JAC - yes because he is screwing us around for the second time - he either wants to play for us or he doesn't. I don't care how fast or slow he is, I don't care if he wants to play FB / Winger or left right out, I don't care if he has family issues, I don't care if he wants to stay in Melbourne, I don't care if he is far superior to Noffo in your eyes.The question is ....Do you want to play for the Tigers JAC? If you do, why did you not sign for 2022 at least.

I don't like guys who play you for a sucker and get away with it - he is just another Latrine.

Kepaoa has demonstrated with his pace he can score tries Nofoaluma couldn't or, Nofoaluma couldn't score some of the tries. kepaoa did because he does not have Kepaoa's pace. That is significant normally but amplified as the game becomes faster.

You have overlooked Nofoaluma's defence (again) Not much point as a 27. year old with numerous NRL games scoring 17 if more are scored against you. Someone posted the number earlier in the day.

Nofoaluma was the Dally M winger of the year for a reason...

And no doubt the market will value him accordingly.

 

[cleanskin]

“I’m really pleased and am following a good coach in Tim Sheens,” Maguire said.

Uh we've had some coaches in between.
Maybe he doesn't rate anyone who preceded Sheen's.
Interesting.