Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[finnzo]

He’s talking about been the only coach to be extended

 

[Yossarian]

Heard we signed Kiah Cooper on a development deal.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Heard we signed Kiah Cooper on a development deal.

The highlights package in the training thread highlights that he is a big unit with great footwork. I am excited our links with the Indigenous community has resulted in real gems being unearthed. Some players just need a year or so of maturity to bring forward their careers.

 

[Cairnstigers]

I would say the Mansour talk is just trying not to burn bridges incase Nofo deal falls through. I don't think we have any intentions in Mansour once he resigns which most people believe he's close to.

I don’t think one relates to the other

Nofoaluma is a right winger
Mansour is a left winger
Both bring the ball back hard
Both solid wingers
And not a bad combination on our edges
I wouldn't be upset getting Mansour at all for a year or 2 max

We dont really have any world class players in our team and I don't think we should be paying a million dollars for one either
A couple of players on the edge of greatness would be good
If Nofoaluma sticks around, and we get Mansour along with the fullback we signed from Penrith or Mbye, I wouldn't mind going real hard for both Crichton and Staggs
That would have to be close to the best back 5 in the Nrl
Then If Doueihi can kick on in the halves with Brooks, our one to seven could be set
Our Front row looks great on paper
We have two quality Hookers to choose from
Only real weakness would be our back row but I think we could find someone from within
Lj has one spot so really just after one more good back rower as we have a little depth in Garner

Crichton and Staggs would end up being just as good if not better than Gasnier and Cooper
Or Ettinghausen and McGraw

They would form a lethal combination

Mansour would be a retrograde step and all the good work done by the WTs would be undone. We don't need another slow winger who can't tackle. We already have Nofoaluma. We should be working overtime training our best youngsters to ready them for the NRL. Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can't because of his pace. Pace brings a whole new dimens ion to both the attack and defence.

Mate!!!!

Nofo scored 17 tries this year - but he can't score tries.

Give us a break ... I know you don't like him and you want a young bloke in his place .... but really, let's not make things up.

Not everyone can score an 90 metre try, in fact very few.


How many did he let in? The support you give him you would believe him to be the complete winger. Do you believe at 27 it is too much to ask of him to be a competent defender? Don't you want our team to improve? I do not support WTs because Nofoaluma is in the team. Have you ever wondered why he has not played SOO. I note you don't mind putting the boot into JAC . He is far superior to Nofoaluma. That is the reality.

Now hang on a minute, you said and I quote ***"Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can’t because of his pace."***

Doesn't matter if he let in 400 tries in one game, that was not your statement - YOU SAID, he can't score them because of his pace.

I pointed out that he had scored 17 tries this season. I think that is proof he can score tries with/without pace.

Put the boot into JAC - yes because he is screwing us around for the second time - he either wants to play for us or he doesn't. I don't care how fast or slow he is, I don't care if he wants to play FB / Winger or left right out, I don't care if he has family issues, I don't care if he wants to stay in Melbourne, I don't care if he is far superior to Noffo in your eyes.The question is ....Do you want to play for the Tigers JAC? If you do, why did you not sign for 2022 at least.

I don't like guys who play you for a sucker and get away with it - he is just another Latrine.

Kepaoa has demonstrated with his pace he can score tries Nofoaluma couldn't or, Nofoaluma couldn't score some of the tries. kepaoa did because he does not have Kepaoa's pace. That is significant normally but amplified as the game becomes faster.

You have overlooked Nofoaluma's defence (again) Not much point as a 27. year old with numerous NRL games scoring 17 if more are scored against you. Someone posted the number earlier in the day.

Nofoaluma was the Dally M winger of the year for a reason...

Wasn't Brooks the Halfback of the year
That display didn't last long
Players have good years
Players have bad years
Not many can continually play better each year or stay constant for that matter
I hope Nofoaluma can continue with his attack that was on display this year
But he needs to improve his defence
I believe he should attack the loose ball a bit more rather than stay back and watch what happens
I / we have all seen what happens when he watches
Edric Lee made him look like a chicken with his head cut off
Jason Nightingale also made Nofoaluma look out of his depth a few years back
Here's to an improvement in defence for Nofoaluma in 2021
For the whole team for that matter
Our players really need to trust each other and stop opening up big holes when under a little pressure
We also need a bit more sting in our defence
We haven't seen that for a long time
Hurt someone and it will make them think twice about doing it again
That causes mistakes in attack
So in saying that, a backrower who can sting in defence would be a good addition
Just a matter of finding one
We have signed some real good young players
Let's hope a few of them stand tall and do themselves and all of us proud

 

[WT2K]

Heard we signed Kiah Cooper on a development deal.

Cousin of Ash Taylor

 

[cleanskin]

He’s talking about been the only coach to be extended

Righto thanks.

 

[ATown]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

The problem is we have 3 positions to fill
And must spend 95% of our cap
Obviously there are a number of ways to do this
I am not certain of the cut off dates for signings

So we wait and hope for a superstar
Sign 3 young guys
Or cheap experienced heads
Even a combination of the above

I would hate to be a coach
The back lash they cop and pressure to succeed

I wonder who people think is the better player

Robert Jennings
Josh Mansour
Jordan Rankin
Mwz
Mahe Fonoa
Keith Lulia
Kevin Naiqama

All wingers

Actually that's a terrible list of players
No wonder people expect better

Whatever people think of us signing Mansour, to have him on that list is ridiculous. He’s somewhere between 2 and 10 times the player of all of them.

 

[Sabre]

ZeroTackle has Momirovski as having signed with Hull

 

[ATown]

If smith signs and insists with playing hooker then what do Wests tigers do with Liddle and Simpkins? Quandry?

Simple solution. Don’t sign a player that insists on anything.

Geez this Smith story has spiralled out of control. His manager must be licking his lips. Never before has a bench hooker garnered this sort of over the top attention!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

ZeroTackle has Momirovski as having signed with Hull

If true, another great result. Up against it getting first grade gig here

 

[Curly_Tiger]

ZeroTackle has Momirovski as having signed with Hull

I’ve heard of money laundering but are we now player laundering through our man Hodgo from Hull

 

[hobbo1]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

The problem is we have 3 positions to fill
And must spend 95% of our cap
Obviously there are a number of ways to do this
I am not certain of the cut off dates for signings

So we wait and hope for a superstar
Sign 3 young guys
Or cheap experienced heads
Even a combination of the above

I would hate to be a coach
The back lash they cop and pressure to succeed

I wonder who people think is the better player

Robert Jennings
Josh Mansour
Jordan Rankin
Mwz
Mahe Fonoa
Keith Lulia
Kevin Naiqama

All wingers

Actually that's a terrible list of players
No wonder people expect better

Whatever people think of us signing Mansour, to have him on that list is ridiculous. He’s somewhere between 2 and 10 times the player of all of them.

10 times ... turn it up !
He blends right in if you ask me .

 

[ATown]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

The problem is we have 3 positions to fill
And must spend 95% of our cap
Obviously there are a number of ways to do this
I am not certain of the cut off dates for signings

So we wait and hope for a superstar
Sign 3 young guys
Or cheap experienced heads
Even a combination of the above

I would hate to be a coach
The back lash they cop and pressure to succeed

I wonder who people think is the better player

Robert Jennings
Josh Mansour
Jordan Rankin
Mwz
Mahe Fonoa
Keith Lulia
Kevin Naiqama

All wingers

Actually that's a terrible list of players
No wonder people expect better

Whatever people think of us signing Mansour, to have him on that list is ridiculous. He’s somewhere between 2 and 10 times the player of all of them.

10 times ... turn it up !
He blends right in if you ask me .

10 times is being very generous to Rankin.

 

[WT46]

ZeroTackle has Momirovski as having signed with Hull

Not true. He is staying. just a mistake from the website.

 

[Russell]

I would say the Mansour talk is just trying not to burn bridges incase Nofo deal falls through. I don't think we have any intentions in Mansour once he resigns which most people believe he's close to.

I don’t think one relates to the other

Nofoaluma is a right winger
Mansour is a left winger
Both bring the ball back hard
Both solid wingers
And not a bad combination on our edges
I wouldn't be upset getting Mansour at all for a year or 2 max

We dont really have any world class players in our team and I don't think we should be paying a million dollars for one either
A couple of players on the edge of greatness would be good
If Nofoaluma sticks around, and we get Mansour along with the fullback we signed from Penrith or Mbye, I wouldn't mind going real hard for both Crichton and Staggs
That would have to be close to the best back 5 in the Nrl
Then If Doueihi can kick on in the halves with Brooks, our one to seven could be set
Our Front row looks great on paper
We have two quality Hookers to choose from
Only real weakness would be our back row but I think we could find someone from within
Lj has one spot so really just after one more good back rower as we have a little depth in Garner

Crichton and Staggs would end up being just as good if not better than Gasnier and Cooper
Or Ettinghausen and McGraw

They would form a lethal combination

Mansour would be a retrograde step and all the good work done by the WTs would be undone. We don't need another slow winger who can't tackle. We already have Nofoaluma. We should be working overtime training our best youngsters to ready them for the NRL. Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can't because of his pace. Pace brings a whole new dimens ion to both the attack and defence.

Mate!!!!

Nofo scored 17 tries this year - but he can't score tries.

Give us a break ... I know you don't like him and you want a young bloke in his place .... but really, let's not make things up.

Not everyone can score an 90 metre try, in fact very few.


How many did he let in? The support you give him you would believe him to be the complete winger. Do you believe at 27 it is too much to ask of him to be a competent defender? Don't you want our team to improve? I do not support WTs because Nofoaluma is in the team. Have you ever wondered why he has not played SOO. I note you don't mind putting the boot into JAC . He is far superior to Nofoaluma. That is the reality.

Now hang on a minute, you said and I quote ***"Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can’t because of his pace."***

Doesn't matter if he let in 400 tries in one game, that was not your statement - YOU SAID, he can't score them because of his pace.

I pointed out that he had scored 17 tries this season. I think that is proof he can score tries with/without pace.

Put the boot into JAC - yes because he is screwing us around for the second time - he either wants to play for us or he doesn't. I don't care how fast or slow he is, I don't care if he wants to play FB / Winger or left right out, I don't care if he has family issues, I don't care if he wants to stay in Melbourne, I don't care if he is far superior to Noffo in your eyes.The question is ....Do you want to play for the Tigers JAC? If you do, why did you not sign for 2022 at least.

I don't like guys who play you for a sucker and get away with it - he is just another Latrine.

Kepaoa has demonstrated with his pace he can score tries Nofoaluma couldn't or, Nofoaluma couldn't score some of the tries. kepaoa did because he does not have Kepaoa's pace. That is significant normally but amplified as the game becomes faster.

You have overlooked Nofoaluma's defence (again) Not much point as a 27. year old with numerous NRL games scoring 17 if more are scored against you. Someone posted the number earlier in the day.

Once again you have misunderstood - we are talking about Noffo scoring tries. You said he couldn't score tries.

You have then qualified your statement to say "Kepaoa has scored tries Nofo couldn't."

That's a maybe - don't think he has in the NRL - I would also say that some of the tries Noffo scored this year, Kepaoa could not have scored.

We are not talking about defence. That does not come into this discussion.

 

[Nelson]

ZeroTackle has Momirovski as having signed with Hull

If true, another great result. Up against it getting first grade gig here

Losing a guy who kicks goals and provides, at worst, rock solid backup at wing and centre is not a great result.

 

[ATown]

Getting B.Smith will be the difference between us being a top 4 side or being a bottom 8 side for the next 10 years.
Imo we can't wait 3yrs to see if one of our current 9s is a rep player then go looking for one if they're not.

This is the biggest get the club could pull off for a long time

Disagree - he is not as good a DH as Liddle - good at a lot of other things but his passing from the ruck is rank.

Agreed. There was a game last year when C Smith was out with his shoulder injury where B Smith’s service was deadset embarrassing.

 

[Russell]

“I’m really pleased and am following a good coach in Tim Sheens,” Maguire said.

Uh we've had some coaches in between.
Maybe he doesn't rate anyone who preceded Sheen's.
Interesting.

He was talking about coaches that have signed a second contract.

 

[Russell]

I just don’t see the need for Mansour, we have Nofa, BJ, Tommy, Momo, AJ, Hoffman,Kei and at a pinch Cini.

Would you take him if it meant getting Laurie early though? Kind of like when the Sharks got Fafita for taking on Gibbs.

No. He would block the progression of one of our younger players, take up a top 30 spot and $. Laurie is on a development contract. To retain him at the Panthers, imo they would need to upgrade him to a NRL spot and contract which would place further pressure on their cap. If they cannot do that, he should be released. We have Mbye.

Totally agree.

I'm excited to have Laurie, but he is still a rookie. He is not tedesco or a proven superstar.

Would rather we are patient for the 12 months if we have to be, than take on Mansour and his terrible contract. That is why penrith are trying to bundle them. Let them struggle with their cap.

And agree, he blocks the progression of the current youngsters.

The problem is we have 3 positions to fill
And must spend 95% of our cap
Obviously there are a number of ways to do this
I am not certain of the cut off dates for signings

So we wait and hope for a superstar
Sign 3 young guys
Or cheap experienced heads
Even a combination of the above

I would hate to be a coach
The back lash they cop and pressure to succeed

I wonder who people think is the better player

Robert Jennings
Josh Mansour
Jordan Rankin
Mwz
Mahe Fonoa
Keith Lulia
Kevin Naiqama

All wingers

Actually that's a terrible list of players
No wonder people expect better

Whatever people think of us signing Mansour, to have him on that list is ridiculous. He’s somewhere between 2 and 10 times the player of all of them.

Not now he ain't!

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I would say the Mansour talk is just trying not to burn bridges incase Nofo deal falls through. I don't think we have any intentions in Mansour once he resigns which most people believe he's close to.

I don’t think one relates to the other

Nofoaluma is a right winger
Mansour is a left winger
Both bring the ball back hard
Both solid wingers
And not a bad combination on our edges
I wouldn't be upset getting Mansour at all for a year or 2 max

We dont really have any world class players in our team and I don't think we should be paying a million dollars for one either
A couple of players on the edge of greatness would be good
If Nofoaluma sticks around, and we get Mansour along with the fullback we signed from Penrith or Mbye, I wouldn't mind going real hard for both Crichton and Staggs
That would have to be close to the best back 5 in the Nrl
Then If Doueihi can kick on in the halves with Brooks, our one to seven could be set
Our Front row looks great on paper
We have two quality Hookers to choose from
Only real weakness would be our back row but I think we could find someone from within
Lj has one spot so really just after one more good back rower as we have a little depth in Garner

Crichton and Staggs would end up being just as good if not better than Gasnier and Cooper
Or Ettinghausen and McGraw

They would form a lethal combination

Mansour would be a retrograde step and all the good work done by the WTs would be undone. We don't need another slow winger who can't tackle. We already have Nofoaluma. We should be working overtime training our best youngsters to ready them for the NRL. Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can't because of his pace. Pace brings a whole new dimens ion to both the attack and defence.

Mate!!!!

Nofo scored 17 tries this year - but he can't score tries.

Give us a break ... I know you don't like him and you want a young bloke in his place .... but really, let's not make things up.

Not everyone can score an 90 metre try, in fact very few.


How many did he let in? The support you give him you would believe him to be the complete winger. Do you believe at 27 it is too much to ask of him to be a competent defender? Don't you want our team to improve? I do not support WTs because Nofoaluma is in the team. Have you ever wondered why he has not played SOO. I note you don't mind putting the boot into JAC . He is far superior to Nofoaluma. That is the reality.

Now hang on a minute, you said and I quote ***"Kepaoa. has already demonstrated he can score tries Nofoaluma can’t because of his pace."***

Doesn't matter if he let in 400 tries in one game, that was not your statement - YOU SAID, he can't score them because of his pace.

I pointed out that he had scored 17 tries this season. I think that is proof he can score tries with/without pace.

Put the boot into JAC - yes because he is screwing us around for the second time - he either wants to play for us or he doesn't. I don't care how fast or slow he is, I don't care if he wants to play FB / Winger or left right out, I don't care if he has family issues, I don't care if he wants to stay in Melbourne, I don't care if he is far superior to Noffo in your eyes.The question is ....Do you want to play for the Tigers JAC? If you do, why did you not sign for 2022 at least.

I don't like guys who play you for a sucker and get away with it - he is just another Latrine.

Kepaoa has demonstrated with his pace he can score tries Nofoaluma couldn't or, Nofoaluma couldn't score some of the tries. kepaoa did because he does not have Kepaoa's pace. That is significant normally but amplified as the game becomes faster.

You have overlooked Nofoaluma's defence (again) Not much point as a 27. year old with numerous NRL games scoring 17 if more are scored against you. Someone posted the number earlier in the day.

Once again you have misunderstood - we are talking about Noffo scoring tries. You said he couldn't score tries.

You have then qualified your statement to say "Kepaoa has scored tries Nofo couldn't."

That's a maybe - don't think he has in the NRL - I would also say that some of the tries Noffo scored this year, Kepaoa could not have scored.

We are not talking about defence. That does not come into this discussion.

It's clear what I have written and I have written it more than once on this forum.

Kepaoa has scored tries that Nofoaluma couldn't because he (Nofoaluma) lacks the pace to have done it.