Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[avocadoontoast]

He seems a good bloke too.


I think madge doesn’t mind a veteran winger and he knows how to pick them (lote).

I think beyond the preconceived opinions of him on here you will find he has more upside than AJ.

https://youtu.be/uH1hlrEAjV4

More upside than AJ? Seriously, how?

AJ had like 4 or 5 games while showed improvement hasn’t totally proven himself.

Mansour has established himself played finals and still got it.

Pretty clear I thought

Not much upside to a 30 year old outside back. lots of upside to a 20 year old who’s only played a handful of games.

 

[BAGNF05]

I reckon he is coming


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uuZmnsLt6B8
Two almost Nofa-like midfield runs and about a dozen Robert Jennings line fall over tries. Winter is Coming,

There was a real Robert Jennings vibe to that video. And it was 4 years ago. No thanks.

100%, a wingers bread and butter is catching the ball on the end of an attacking overlap and putting it down, that’s a skill most under 9s wingers have down pat. The challenge is defusing bombs at a high rate, taking gutsy carries off your goal line and consistently making critical defensive reads in try saving scenarios. Often the challenging bits don’t make highlight reels.

 

[tony soprano]

He seems a good bloke too.


I think madge doesn’t mind a veteran winger and he knows how to pick them (lote).

I think beyond the preconceived opinions of him on here you will find he has more upside than AJ.

https://youtu.be/uH1hlrEAjV4

More upside than AJ? Seriously, how?

AJ had like 4 or 5 games while showed improvement hasn’t totally proven himself.

Mansour has established himself played finals and still got it.

Pretty clear I thought

Not much upside to a 30 year old outside back. lots of upside to a 20 year old who’s only played a handful of games.

Agree if you’re Melbourne storm but when you’re wests tigers and never play finals you have to hedge your bets and limit risk.

 

[tony soprano]

The only way it would make sense is on a short deal, as a backup, very well subsidised and allows us to get Laurie early.

I’d say we want 2 and he wants 3.

Yeah, I think you're probably right. No way he gets 3. Even reluctant to do 2.

Agree

 

[BAGNF05]

Would rather Steven Crichton than Coates. Squad balance and upside.

And Brooks is Brooks, no super forward pack is going to turn him into Andrew Johns.

Clearly not Joey but put him behind the Raiders pack and he’d score 12-14 tries in a season and have plenty of try assists too. Amazing what momentum and go forward do for speed men.

 

[BAGNF05]

Getting B.Smith will be the difference between us being a top 4 side or being a bottom 8 side for the next 10 years.
Imo we can't wait 3yrs to see if one of our current 9s is a rep player then go looking for one if they're not.

This is the biggest get the club could pull off for a long time

Disagree - he is not as good a DH as Liddle - good at a lot of other things but his passing from the ruck is rank.

Thats why he plays for NZ and Liddle struggles to make a side that has finished out of the 8 for 2 decades

If you think Smiths passing from the ruck, or speed from the ruck is better than Liddle - you are delusional.

Besides Liddle can't play for NZ - he is not a NZ'er.

If you think Liddle is a better player you're beyond delusional

So why has he played for the jr Kiwis, New Zealand and New Zealand Maori if he's not a Kiwi?

Liddle was an Aust Schoolboy star. He has been sought after by Manly, Canterbury and ironically the Storm but always stuck with WTs. Smith is a fine player but more a running and impact forward. Liddle has a great pass from dummy half and is super quick.

Lot's of Australian schoolboy stars now laying pipes on the side of the road. Schoolboy stars are a dime a dozen and don't matter once you hit the NRL.
I have a great pass and I'm super quick too.
I'll take Smith over Liddle in any position, different league of player.

But Liddle isn't laying pipes or digging ditches. To come back from such a severe injury and perform so well is a high achievement. Comparing Liddle and Smith won't get you far as they are different types of player. If Smith were at our club there is every indication he would be played from the interchange as a running impact forward. Liddle and Simpkin would still be our hookers.

For me, Liddle is a future Captain. He is articulate and in every interview I have heard, he is impressive.

I’m not seeing it with Liddle. In my opinion hd has been prone to injury and shows flashes at best. Haven’t seen him play an 80 minute game where I’d say he was man of the match. Mbye is good in front of a microphone too.

 

[tigerballs]

He seems a good bloke too.


I think madge doesn’t mind a veteran winger and he knows how to pick them (lote).

I think beyond the preconceived opinions of him on here you will find he has more upside than AJ.

https://youtu.be/uH1hlrEAjV4

More upside than AJ? Seriously, how?

AJ had like 4 or 5 games while showed improvement hasn’t totally proven himself.

Mansour has established himself played finals and still got it.

Pretty clear I thought

Not much upside to a 30 year old outside back. lots of upside to a 20 year old who’s only played a handful of games.

Two players with most expectations are Momo and AJ. Momo will be captain next year if he stays healthy.

 

[TigerTownSFS]

To be honest I’d take Mansour if it meant we get Laurie early. Most of the work is done from the inside man so he really will be there just to fall over the line and he isn’t an awful finisher (better than Jennings). Mansour isn’t going to play any first grade at panthers so a 2 year deal should work for him too even if he is less likely to play as much first grade in 2022.

 

[BAGNF05]

Barret has a bit of star status,the man that made the Panthers backine.His coaching record at Manly was nothing special but the media have always been kind to the dogs and Barret, Plus the dogs have a lot of pull in the NRL.Lets see how it turns out.

They'll finish dead last

10th. They were gritty this year and have added some class and agro and a match winning goal kicker. Dragons last I reckon.

 

[BAGNF05]

Honestly we need to be going hard after Angus Crichton. Forget Mansour etc.
A right edge of Douehi, Crichton, Roberts and Nofa would be top 4 stuff


Agree, Rorters don't let many good ones go though. Jayden Sua / Hudson Young more realistic choices. Both off-contract 2022, throw 650 at Jayden and 500 at Hudson, 3 plus 1 year in the club's favour with incentives. Both are young and are footballers, clubs won/t want to lose them but money talks.

I feel as if that doesn't do us any favours. Luc is just as good as them if not better. If we don't go after huge names like Crichton we should be going after young, cheap talent. Paying mid tier players big money is where this club keeps going wrong. The Roosters and the Storm are just a team of superstars and then very low wage players who play way above their salary. That's the key to winning



Agree with what you are saying and I'm not saying get both. But I do think either will be exceptional players and their next contract will be their first opportunity at a decent contract. Get in early before they become the next Angus...

No guarantee they do become the next Crichton though. I'd rather spend the money on a known superstar than spend 500-650k on someone decent. If you want to take a punt on a a player with upside go looking for other Luc Leilua's and get then on 200k



Disagree, disagree strongly.

If you want to finish higher than ninth youve got to take chances. The biggest being to back the recruitment arm of the club and their identification of talent.

It IS ONLY identification of talent that will lift this club up.

Once identified, unique and top end talent that others clubs are aware of can only be recruited to the club paying good money.

750k for a S.Crichton for instance is outstanding business if you end up with his signature.


Please, S.Chricton over 2 seasons is still unproven, and definitely not worth $750K p/y

One good season in a crazy COVID year is far from stats to hang your hat on, he was part of an excellent pack and spine and benefited from it in 2020

$750K... thank god you're not running our recruitment

Proved a match winner from the moment he stepped on an NRL field. Will command a million plus within 3-4 years.

 

[BAGNF05]

Honestly we need to be going hard after Angus Crichton. Forget Mansour etc.
A right edge of Douehi, Crichton, Roberts and Nofa would be top 4 stuff


Agree, Rorters don't let many good ones go though. Jayden Sua / Hudson Young more realistic choices. Both off-contract 2022, throw 650 at Jayden and 500 at Hudson, 3 plus 1 year in the club's favour with incentives. Both are young and are footballers, clubs won/t want to lose them but money talks.

I feel as if that doesn't do us any favours. Luc is just as good as them if not better. If we don't go after huge names like Crichton we should be going after young, cheap talent. Paying mid tier players big money is where this club keeps going wrong. The Roosters and the Storm are just a team of superstars and then very low wage players who play way above their salary. That's the key to winning



Agree with what you are saying and I'm not saying get both. But I do think either will be exceptional players and their next contract will be their first opportunity at a decent contract. Get in early before they become the next Angus...

No guarantee they do become the next Crichton though. I'd rather spend the money on a known superstar than spend 500-650k on someone decent. If you want to take a punt on a a player with upside go looking for other Luc Leilua's and get then on 200k



Disagree, disagree strongly.

If you want to finish higher than ninth youve got to take chances. The biggest being to back the recruitment arm of the club and their identification of talent.

It IS ONLY identification of talent that will lift this club up.

Once identified, unique and top end talent that others clubs are aware of can only be recruited to the club paying good money.

750k for a S.Crichton for instance is outstanding business if you end up with his signature.


Please, S.Chricton over 2 seasons is still unproven, and definitely not worth $750K p/y

One good season in a crazy COVID year is far from stats to hang your hat on, he was part of an excellent pack and spine and benefited from it in 2020

$750K... thank god you're not running our recruitment

As if I could do worse than Packer, Mybe , Reynolds etc.

I could close my eyes and recruit better.

Keep on enjoying 9th

You're mentality is why we are where we are right now.

Gob smacked at some comments on here hey. Those criticising the ability of Crichton and JAC aren’t watching footy. Not properly anyway.

 

[tig_prmz]

The only way it would make sense is on a short deal, as a backup, very well subsidised and allows us to get Laurie early.

How does that help us get Laurie early? Was there a clause or something or did Penrith say if we take mansour we get him early ?

Rumour they might release both if we take mansour of their books.

i remember a scene from Moneyball where Brad Pitt goes up to a batter and tells him that the team they bought him from is paying $x to play against them, that's how low of an opinion they have of him.

Would love for Madge to light that fire under Mansour or Joe O

 

[BAGNF05]

Honestly we need to be going hard after Angus Crichton. Forget Mansour etc.
A right edge of Douehi, Crichton, Roberts and Nofa would be top 4 stuff


Agree, Rorters don't let many good ones go though. Jayden Sua / Hudson Young more realistic choices. Both off-contract 2022, throw 650 at Jayden and 500 at Hudson, 3 plus 1 year in the club's favour with incentives. Both are young and are footballers, clubs won/t want to lose them but money talks.

I feel as if that doesn't do us any favours. Luc is just as good as them if not better. If we don't go after huge names like Crichton we should be going after young, cheap talent. Paying mid tier players big money is where this club keeps going wrong. The Roosters and the Storm are just a team of superstars and then very low wage players who play way above their salary. That's the key to winning



Agree with what you are saying and I'm not saying get both. But I do think either will be exceptional players and their next contract will be their first opportunity at a decent contract. Get in early before they become the next Angus...

No guarantee they do become the next Crichton though. I'd rather spend the money on a known superstar than spend 500-650k on someone decent. If you want to take a punt on a a player with upside go looking for other Luc Leilua's and get then on 200k



Disagree, disagree strongly.

If you want to finish higher than ninth youve got to take chances. The biggest being to back the recruitment arm of the club and their identification of talent.

It IS ONLY identification of talent that will lift this club up.

Once identified, unique and top end talent that others clubs are aware of can only be recruited to the club paying good money.

750k for a S.Crichton for instance is outstanding business if you end up with his signature.


Please, S.Chricton over 2 seasons is still unproven, and definitely not worth $750K p/y

One good season in a crazy COVID year is far from stats to hang your hat on, he was part of an excellent pack and spine and benefited from it in 2020

$750K... thank god you're not running our recruitment

As if I could do worse than Packer, Mybe , Reynolds etc.

I could close my eyes and recruit better.

Keep on enjoying 9th

You're mentality is why we are where are right now.


My mentality is that we need to continue to build our core from the inside with juniors, pick up players that are talented and undervalued, and then sign potential stars that aren't overpriced

I trust Madge's and Hartigan's process, but 750k for S.Chricton is crazy talk

Whatever you're smoking please pass it on :blush:

Mate these kids want to look around the sheds before a game and say, weve got a Munster or a Tedesco or a latrell to win us the game today. That’s why they leave. Crichton is showing every indication he is a future - if not current - long term game breaker.

 

[Holman Barnes #1 Fan]

Getting B.Smith will be the difference between us being a top 4 side or being a bottom 8 side for the next 10 years.
Imo we can't wait 3yrs to see if one of our current 9s is a rep player then go looking for one if they're not.

This is the biggest get the club could pull off for a long time

Disagree - he is not as good a DH as Liddle - good at a lot of other things but his passing from the ruck is rank.

Thats why he plays for NZ and Liddle struggles to make a side that has finished out of the 8 for 2 decades

If you think Smiths passing from the ruck, or speed from the ruck is better than Liddle - you are delusional.

Besides Liddle can't play for NZ - he is not a NZ'er.

If you think Liddle is a better player you're beyond delusional

So why has he played for the jr Kiwis, New Zealand and New Zealand Maori if he's not a Kiwi?

Liddle was an Aust Schoolboy star. He has been sought after by Manly, Canterbury and ironically the Storm but always stuck with WTs. Smith is a fine player but more a running and impact forward. Liddle has a great pass from dummy half and is super quick.

Lot's of Australian schoolboy stars now laying pipes on the side of the road. Schoolboy stars are a dime a dozen and don't matter once you hit the NRL.
I have a great pass and I'm super quick too.
I'll take Smith over Liddle in any position, different league of player.

But Liddle isn't laying pipes or digging ditches. To come back from such a severe injury and perform so well is a high achievement. Comparing Liddle and Smith won't get you far as they are different types of player. If Smith were at our club there is every indication he would be played from the interchange as a running impact forward. Liddle and Simpkin would still be our hookers.

For me, Liddle is a future Captain. He is articulate and in every interview I have heard, he is impressive.

I’m not seeing it with Liddle. In my opinion hd has been prone to injury and shows flashes at best. Haven’t seen him play an 80 minute game where I’d say he was man of the match. Mbye is good in front of a microphone too.

You'll eat your words with Liddle. Every great attacking move this season will start from a 10/10 spiral pass out in front to the first receiver from dummy half. He's not quite Aaron Smith (All Blacks) good on the ground pass, but he's as close as I've seen in this era of NRL.

 

[BAGNF05]

Getting B.Smith will be the difference between us being a top 4 side or being a bottom 8 side for the next 10 years.
Imo we can't wait 3yrs to see if one of our current 9s is a rep player then go looking for one if they're not.

This is the biggest get the club could pull off for a long time

Disagree - he is not as good a DH as Liddle - good at a lot of other things but his passing from the ruck is rank.

Thats why he plays for NZ and Liddle struggles to make a side that has finished out of the 8 for 2 decades

If you think Smiths passing from the ruck, or speed from the ruck is better than Liddle - you are delusional.

Besides Liddle can't play for NZ - he is not a NZ'er.

If you think Liddle is a better player you're beyond delusional

So why has he played for the jr Kiwis, New Zealand and New Zealand Maori if he's not a Kiwi?

Liddle was an Aust Schoolboy star. He has been sought after by Manly, Canterbury and ironically the Storm but always stuck with WTs. Smith is a fine player but more a running and impact forward. Liddle has a great pass from dummy half and is super quick.

Lot's of Australian schoolboy stars now laying pipes on the side of the road. Schoolboy stars are a dime a dozen and don't matter once you hit the NRL.
I have a great pass and I'm super quick too.
I'll take Smith over Liddle in any position, different league of player.

But Liddle isn't laying pipes or digging ditches. To come back from such a severe injury and perform so well is a high achievement. Comparing Liddle and Smith won't get you far as they are different types of player. If Smith were at our club there is every indication he would be played from the interchange as a running impact forward. Liddle and Simpkin would still be our hookers.

For me, Liddle is a future Captain. He is articulate and in every interview I have heard, he is impressive.

I’m not seeing it with Liddle. In my opinion hd has been prone to injury and shows flashes at best. Haven’t seen him play an 80 minute game where I’d say he was man of the match. Mbye is good in front of a microphone too.

You'll eat your words with Liddle. Every great attacking move this season will start from a 10/10 spiral pass out in front to the first receiver from dummy half.

Always happy to be proven wrong if it means W’s

 

[TheDaBoss]

Jennings 2.0

 

[AdelaideTiger]

If we sign Croft, I’ll eat a god damn pinecone. People don’t rate Brooks and they want to bring in his Queensland born twin like he’ll do any better. Remember back to a game between us and storm maybe 2 years ago that we won, he was the worst player on the pitch by some stretch and got pulled with 20 minutes to go. If I was In the media and read this forum, I’d make fun of us too for takes like that

Brodie had an outline of Chris Lawrence's shoulder across his chest for about a month after that game. Probably ruined his career that day, was great to watch

 

[rihannafan1]

Getting B.Smith will be the difference between us being a top 4 side or being a bottom 8 side for the next 10 years.
Imo we can't wait 3yrs to see if one of our current 9s is a rep player then go looking for one if they're not.

This is the biggest get the club could pull off for a long time

Disagree - he is not as good a DH as Liddle - good at a lot of other things but his passing from the ruck is rank.

Thats why he plays for NZ and Liddle struggles to make a side that has finished out of the 8 for 2 decades

If you think Smiths passing from the ruck, or speed from the ruck is better than Liddle - you are delusional.

Besides Liddle can't play for NZ - he is not a NZ'er.

If you think Liddle is a better player you're beyond delusional

So why has he played for the jr Kiwis, New Zealand and New Zealand Maori if he's not a Kiwi?

Liddle was an Aust Schoolboy star. He has been sought after by Manly, Canterbury and ironically the Storm but always stuck with WTs. Smith is a fine player but more a running and impact forward. Liddle has a great pass from dummy half and is super quick.

Lot's of Australian schoolboy stars now laying pipes on the side of the road. Schoolboy stars are a dime a dozen and don't matter once you hit the NRL.
I have a great pass and I'm super quick too.
I'll take Smith over Liddle in any position, different league of player.

But Liddle isn't laying pipes or digging ditches. To come back from such a severe injury and perform so well is a high achievement. Comparing Liddle and Smith won't get you far as they are different types of player. If Smith were at our club there is every indication he would be played from the interchange as a running impact forward. Liddle and Simpkin would still be our hookers.

For me, Liddle is a future Captain. He is articulate and in every interview I have heard, he is impressive.

I’m not seeing it with Liddle. In my opinion hd has been prone to injury and shows flashes at best. Haven’t seen him play an 80 minute game where I’d say he was man of the match. Mbye is good in front of a microphone too.

You'll eat your words with Liddle. Every great attacking move this season will start from a 10/10 spiral pass out in front to the first receiver from dummy half. He's not quite Aaron Smith (All Blacks) good on the ground pass, but he's as close as I've seen in this era of NRL.

Where are all of you Liddle fans seeing these highlights? He's played like 2 games a season for the past 3 years and in none has he started.

 

[JC99]

Getting B.Smith will be the difference between us being a top 4 side or being a bottom 8 side for the next 10 years.
Imo we can't wait 3yrs to see if one of our current 9s is a rep player then go looking for one if they're not.

This is the biggest get the club could pull off for a long time

Disagree - he is not as good a DH as Liddle - good at a lot of other things but his passing from the ruck is rank.

Thats why he plays for NZ and Liddle struggles to make a side that has finished out of the 8 for 2 decades

If you think Smiths passing from the ruck, or speed from the ruck is better than Liddle - you are delusional.

Besides Liddle can't play for NZ - he is not a NZ'er.

If you think Liddle is a better player you're beyond delusional

So why has he played for the jr Kiwis, New Zealand and New Zealand Maori if he's not a Kiwi?

Liddle was an Aust Schoolboy star. He has been sought after by Manly, Canterbury and ironically the Storm but always stuck with WTs. Smith is a fine player but more a running and impact forward. Liddle has a great pass from dummy half and is super quick.

Lot's of Australian schoolboy stars now laying pipes on the side of the road. Schoolboy stars are a dime a dozen and don't matter once you hit the NRL.
I have a great pass and I'm super quick too.
I'll take Smith over Liddle in any position, different league of player.

But Liddle isn't laying pipes or digging ditches. To come back from such a severe injury and perform so well is a high achievement. Comparing Liddle and Smith won't get you far as they are different types of player. If Smith were at our club there is every indication he would be played from the interchange as a running impact forward. Liddle and Simpkin would still be our hookers.

For me, Liddle is a future Captain. He is articulate and in every interview I have heard, he is impressive.

I’m not seeing it with Liddle. In my opinion hd has been prone to injury and shows flashes at best. Haven’t seen him play an 80 minute game where I’d say he was man of the match. Mbye is good in front of a microphone too.

You'll eat your words with Liddle. Every great attacking move this season will start from a 10/10 spiral pass out in front to the first receiver from dummy half. He's not quite Aaron Smith (All Blacks) good on the ground pass, but he's as close as I've seen in this era of NRL.

He had good service but so does any half decent hooker. I hope he can do a whole lot more than just pass off the ground, all the best hookers in the game right now are all over the field.

I think Liddle is a good player. I also think he gets over hyped a lot on the forum. His defence is a little iffy and he has an error in him, want to see more of his running game too. In saying that if he stays on the field this year he’ll be good for us I reckon. He’s got all the attributes to be a real good hooker just needs to put it all together, hopefully he learned off Harry

 

[BAGNF05]

Getting B.Smith will be the difference between us being a top 4 side or being a bottom 8 side for the next 10 years.
Imo we can't wait 3yrs to see if one of our current 9s is a rep player then go looking for one if they're not.

This is the biggest get the club could pull off for a long time

Disagree - he is not as good a DH as Liddle - good at a lot of other things but his passing from the ruck is rank.

Thats why he plays for NZ and Liddle struggles to make a side that has finished out of the 8 for 2 decades

If you think Smiths passing from the ruck, or speed from the ruck is better than Liddle - you are delusional.

Besides Liddle can't play for NZ - he is not a NZ'er.

If you think Liddle is a better player you're beyond delusional

So why has he played for the jr Kiwis, New Zealand and New Zealand Maori if he's not a Kiwi?

Liddle was an Aust Schoolboy star. He has been sought after by Manly, Canterbury and ironically the Storm but always stuck with WTs. Smith is a fine player but more a running and impact forward. Liddle has a great pass from dummy half and is super quick.

Lot's of Australian schoolboy stars now laying pipes on the side of the road. Schoolboy stars are a dime a dozen and don't matter once you hit the NRL.
I have a great pass and I'm super quick too.
I'll take Smith over Liddle in any position, different league of player.

But Liddle isn't laying pipes or digging ditches. To come back from such a severe injury and perform so well is a high achievement. Comparing Liddle and Smith won't get you far as they are different types of player. If Smith were at our club there is every indication he would be played from the interchange as a running impact forward. Liddle and Simpkin would still be our hookers.

For me, Liddle is a future Captain. He is articulate and in every interview I have heard, he is impressive.

I’m not seeing it with Liddle. In my opinion hd has been prone to injury and shows flashes at best. Haven’t seen him play an 80 minute game where I’d say he was man of the match. Mbye is good in front of a microphone too.

You'll eat your words with Liddle. Every great attacking move this season will start from a 10/10 spiral pass out in front to the first receiver from dummy half. He's not quite Aaron Smith (All Blacks) good on the ground pass, but he's as close as I've seen in this era of NRL.

Where are all of you Liddle fans seeing these highlights? He's played like 2 games a season for the past 3 years and in none has he started.

I reckon I could cut together about 10 clean breaks out of dummy half where we has created a try, apart from that it’s slim pickings. No kicking game, no brutal defence, not durable, doesn’t get angry or rile up opponents. Lot to improve on.