Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[cochise]

Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .

Firstly, Harry is far more dangerous running the football, it’s probably the best part of his game so not sure why you think it’s his biggest weakness he ran the ball more than any other hooker in 2020. He makes far more line breaks when running the footy too.

As for service to the big fellas, his service is good as shown, his passes are just as good if he’s standing 30 metres further back there’s really no difference, he has that cam smith pass where it’s right in front of the props almost looks forward. Liddle has good passing for sure but if brooks struggles again it’ll be all for nothing and not sure he can control a game like Harry.

Whatever mate , I couldn’t be bothered anymore . I’m trying to be objective , and these are things I watched with a keen eye , last year, and Liddle the previous 2.Especially when the hype train , left the station. If your not even going to admit that Liddles speed out of dummy half is better , than your just lying to yourself now . Liddle is a line break threat every time he gets out . A clean break . I get it . Harry’s was your favourite player . You think he’s the bees knees . I personally don’t . I think he’s above average . And I will wait to reserve judgement , as one thing I know about this game , is how quickly perceptions can change. Like , if Liddle plays to his potential , the general opinion of him around here in 7 months .especially if he signs for say , the dogs . I think Liddle is a gun . Everything I’ve seen of him suggests it . And , he’s our gun . He’s a tigers junior .

Love your passion for Liddle mate but nobody is making this Harry Grant stuff up. It’s not just hype. You’ll get plenty of chances to see it for yourself this year, origin games, grand finals and probably test matches included. Liddle’s big goal is playing FG.

It’s not just passion mate . I get it , he’s had a stop start career and a lot of guys have gone off him, but I’ve got real high hopes for him . And I think the club does as well. I really like our spine this year . It’s the best one we’ve started the season with in a long time . There’s just a lot of upside to it .

I like it too and good to see Liddle accepting some accountability in the media today and showing gratitude to the club. On the spine FB still worries me, I hope Laurie comes over soon.

I believe, somewhat hopefully, that we will see a much better Mbye in 2021.

Persistent rumours about him going back to QLD not good. Is his heart in it?

We can't afford him to go back now, we need him until at least the end of the year.

 

[hank37w]

You don't kill it in a deciding SOO game if you can't play

Grant ........Flemington straight .....Liddle

We need an upgrade in 2022 and beyond

Particularly if Liddle doesn't step up and Simpkin can't step up straight away

You are so far behind the 8 ball if you don't have a quality 9 in the modern game

The 9 position does not even rate for me this coming season as I feel this position is covered 2 x quality 9’s. I have my observations about Grant and his longevity though.

I also tend to agree that we have the #9 covered this season.

If your observations about Grant are anything to do with teams working him out and that his effectiveness will be nullified to a great extent this season and that his style of play may very well result in him spending time on the sideline injured, then I would have to agree with that as well.

People need to be content with the fact that we have a couple of very good options for the dummy half spot and that Harry is gone and I doubt very much that he is ever coming back.

If we can somehow snag Cameron McInnes to play lock and fill in at #9 when required, then I think that is the best possible outcome for us moving forward.

 

[AJ1]

Am I getting something wrong here? Where in talks with a some 1 who is in the prime of the career and is on the verge of playing origin can cover hooker lock and second row if need be Has great leadership Is as tough as they come Knows Madge and some how people think this is a bad thing? I don’t get it would be an amazing signing if we can get it

We could recruit Jesus Christ himself as our HB and some people will find the fault in it (doesn't want to play Sundays, turns Powerade into wine).

 

[JC99]

Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .

Firstly, Harry is far more dangerous running the football, it’s probably the best part of his game so not sure why you think it’s his biggest weakness he ran the ball more than any other hooker in 2020. He makes far more line breaks when running the footy too.

As for service to the big fellas, his service is good as shown, his passes are just as good if he’s standing 30 metres further back there’s really no difference, he has that cam smith pass where it’s right in front of the props almost looks forward. Liddle has good passing for sure but if brooks struggles again it’ll be all for nothing and not sure he can control a game like Harry.

Whatever mate , I couldn’t be bothered anymore . I’m trying to be objective , and these are things I watched with a keen eye , last year, and Liddle the previous 2.Especially when the hype train , left the station. If your not even going to admit that Liddles speed out of dummy half is better , than your just lying to yourself now . Liddle is a line break threat every time he gets out . A clean break . I get it . Harry’s was your favourite player . You think he’s the bees knees . I personally don’t . I think he’s above average . And I will wait to reserve judgement , as one thing I know about this game , is how quickly perceptions can change. Like , if Liddle plays to his potential , the general opinion of him around here in 7 months .especially if he signs for say , the dogs . I think Liddle is a gun . Everything I’ve seen of him suggests it . And , he’s our gun . He’s a tigers junior .

Liddle is super fast, but right now Harry is a bigger threat running the footy. When did Liddle come to tigers? I know he was at Wyong for a while grew up playing there.

Harry is not a Wests Tiger any more so I don’t care.

That’s fine but let’s not pretend Liddle is better than him right now. Hoping he gets that good cause I’m a definite fan of his.

No one said that . I said I think Liddle is a better pure 9. And I think a lot of people agree . Grant is a superior player . That’s it .

That statement makes 0 sense. Liddle is a better dummy half than Harry, who’s a dummy half, but Harry is also a better player? You’re saying that Liddle is better at the same position that Harry plays which means you would pick him there first which means you think he’s a better player - unless you think Harry should be somewhere else. The whole thing is an oxymoron.

 

[JC99]

Lots of people saying McInnes would be lock for us but is that what the club thinks? I’m pretty certain he wants to play hooker over lock.

 

[cochise]

Lots of people saying McInnes would be lock for us but is that what the club thinks? I’m pretty certain he wants to play hooker over lock.

I think our interest in him was to play lock. The club see a Radley type ball playing lock as the biggest priority so that is where I think we were looking at McInnes playing.

That doesn't mean McInnes wants to play lock.

 

[happy_tiger]

You don't kill it in a deciding SOO game if you can't play

Grant ........Flemington straight .....Liddle

We need an upgrade in 2022 and beyond

Particularly if Liddle doesn't step up and Simpkin can't step up straight away

You are so far behind the 8 ball if you don't have a quality 9 in the modern game

The 9 position does not even rate for me this coming season as I feel this position is covered 2 x quality 9’s. I have my observations about Grant and his longevity though.

I worry about Grant's longevity as well .....but he probably has learnt a lot from that bloke in 9 who was captain ....if anyone can teach him about longevity as a 9 making 40 tackles every week for 15 + seasons it is Cam Smith

 

[Cairnstigers]

I hope daine Laurie is as good as everyone on here makes him out to be

Is he a 9
Because hookers are all the talk at the moment

I see Laurie as a player like Preston Cambell or a Matty Bowen or even a Ben Barba style
If he can get anywhere near this quality of player then we have a keeper

 

[JC99]

Lots of people saying McInnes would be lock for us but is that what the club thinks? I’m pretty certain he wants to play hooker over lock.

I think our interest in him was to play lock. The club see a Radley type ball playing lock as the biggest priority so that is where I think we were looking at McInnes playing.

That doesn't mean McInnes wants to play lock.

I don’t know how I feel about him at lock, personally I think he’s better at hooker. He’s a great defender but I have visions of him being whacked multiple times trying to run the ball out of his own end. He’s not as evasive as Murray and doesn’t have the size of Radley who’s just built better for running the footy.

 

[happy_tiger]

I hope daine Laurie is as good as everyone on here makes him out to be

Is he a 9
Because hookers are all the talk at the moment

I see Laurie as a player like Preston Cambell or a Matty Bowen or even a Ben Barba style
If he can get anywhere near this quality of player then we have a keeper

Our whole spine needs talking about ......

 

[Guest]

I hope daine Laurie is as good as everyone on here makes him out to be

I hope there's a moment in your life where you finally become happy about supporting the Wests Tigers walter because I'm sure you'll never look back once that moment comes.

 

[haberfield_tiger]

Liddle isn't mcinnes left boot. He won't last the season. I would be surprised if he can handle the D week to week. have a mate in the know at tigers. Been saying mcinnes is coming for a while. As for simpkin ...19yrs old why would we throw him in and put him under pressure and bust him like the previous coaches did to liddle.

 

[Celticguy97]

Liddle isn't mcinnes left boot. He won't last the season. I would be surprised if he can handle the D week to week. have a mate in the know at tigers. Been saying mcinnes is coming for a while. As for simpkin ...19yrs old why would we throw him in and put him under pressure and bust him like the previous coaches did to liddle.

Did your mate mention anything about Stephen Crichton ?

 

[haberfield_tiger]

No nothing....

 

[hank37w]

Does everyone know or even consider the fact that Liddle's last injury that put him out for an extended period was a freak accident and was actually the result of friendly fire.

I'm pretty confident that Jacob will go from strength to strength this season and was very impressed with the way that he came back last season after such a long time out.

From the times that I have seen him in the coaches box with Madge I have formed the opinion that the coach thinks very highly of him and if Jake Simpkin is anywhere near as good as some on here keep saying, then I think we have #9 pretty well covered.

As I have previously stated the only way it gets better is if we can get Cameron McInnes over here because I don't see any way that Harry ever makes it back here.

As highly as I rate the block of cheese, I think McInnes is a more practical and much more realistic option for us as a #13 and cover for #9 as required.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I hope McInnes is doing the right thing in handling his exit. Would hate for us to have Aloiai fist us the way he did only for the club to encourage another player to do the same.

 

[JC99]

Does everyone know or even consider the fact that Liddle's last injury that put him out for an extended period was a freak accident and was actually the result of friendly fire.

I'm pretty confident that Jacob will go from strength to strength this season and was very impressed with the way that he came back last season after such a long time out.

From the times that I have seen him in the coaches box with Madge I have formed the opinion that the coach thinks very highly of him and if Jake Simpkin is anywhere near as good as some on here keep saying, then I think we have #9 pretty well covered.

As I have previously stated the only way it gets better is if we can get Cameron McInnes over here because I don't see any way that Harry ever makes it back here.

As highly as I rate the block of cheese, I think McInnes is a more practical and much more realistic option for us as a #13 and cover for #9 as required.

Definitely was a freak accident, the worry I’d re-occurrence now that it’s happened once. His shoulder were always the issue before that

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .

Firstly, Harry is far more dangerous running the football, it’s probably the best part of his game so not sure why you think it’s his biggest weakness he ran the ball more than any other hooker in 2020. He makes far more line breaks when running the footy too.

As for service to the big fellas, his service is good as shown, his passes are just as good if he’s standing 30 metres further back there’s really no difference, he has that cam smith pass where it’s right in front of the props almost looks forward. Liddle has good passing for sure but if brooks struggles again it’ll be all for nothing and not sure he can control a game like Harry.

Whatever mate , I couldn’t be bothered anymore . I’m trying to be objective , and these are things I watched with a keen eye , last year, and Liddle the previous 2.Especially when the hype train , left the station. If your not even going to admit that Liddles speed out of dummy half is better , than your just lying to yourself now . Liddle is a line break threat every time he gets out . A clean break . I get it . Harry’s was your favourite player . You think he’s the bees knees . I personally don’t . I think he’s above average . And I will wait to reserve judgement , as one thing I know about this game , is how quickly perceptions can change. Like , if Liddle plays to his potential , the general opinion of him around here in 7 months .especially if he signs for say , the dogs . I think Liddle is a gun . Everything I’ve seen of him suggests it . And , he’s our gun . He’s a tigers junior .

Liddle is super fast, but right now Harry is a bigger threat running the footy. When did Liddle come to tigers? I know he was at Wyong for a while grew up playing there.

Harry is not a Wests Tiger any more so I don’t care.

That’s fine but let’s not pretend Liddle is better than him right now. Hoping he gets that good cause I’m a definite fan of his.

No one said that . I said I think Liddle is a better pure 9. And I think a lot of people agree . Grant is a superior player . That’s it .

That statement makes 0 sense. Liddle is a better dummy half than Harry, who’s a dummy half, but Harry is also a better player? You’re saying that Liddle is better at the same position that Harry plays which means you would pick him there first which means you think he’s a better player - unless you think Harry should be somewhere else. The whole thing is an oxymoron.

Champ , I’ve already explained the logic and where I stand . Plenty of people have understood it , and agree with it . You’re going around in circles for what to somehow prove yourself right on a point I’ve already stated I don’t agree with . That’s it . If you want clarification go back through the thread otherwise move on , cause I’m not explaining myself again .

 

[Fainu Brothers]

Harry Grant has goooooone! Let’s move on. I hope Liddle is ready he is 24, it’s now or never. Simkins is a talent but may need another offseason before he is ready to defend in the middle for a full NRL season.

 

[TigerWest]

I hope McInnes is doing the right thing in handling his exit. Would hate for us to have Aloiai fist us the way he did only for the club to encourage another player to do the same.

Our chairman and major sponsor (also of NSW SOO) is head of a large legal firm, can’t see he would stand for anything untoward or under handed.

But in saying that, it doesn’t mean we can’t go hard within the rules to sign any player.