Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[JC99]

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

Why would you do that when you just went out into the market and signed a lock. Do you watch other teams or just our games?

If you’re talking about Joffa he played prop for the last 6 weeks of 2020 and put up his best numbers there. Also played second row and bench. Who doesn’t watch games mate haha



Come see me when he starts at 13.

its so obvious.

That’s what Anthony Seibold thought ?



Thats as good as saying thats what Jason Taylor thought lol.

You’ve lost me bro. Joffa played lock throughout the worst period in Broncos history last year and ultimately the coach was sacked. Unsure where the skinny punching bag JT comes into it but I hope Joffa finds some of his earlier career form at WT. personally think it’ll be at prop but who knows.

He also made origin playing some lock I believe so Goes both ways. Pretty much the same position anyway for us at the moment, he's our best option at 13 most likely.

Unlike most on here I like Twal at lock a lot too, put up insane numbers every week playing there and gives our other props more of a break. If he comes off the bench he won't be as effective

Joffa is a middle forward whether that's lock or prop. He's certainly no second rower though, shows how much of a dummy Seibold is to play him there

 

[BAGNF05]

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

Why would you do that when you just went out into the market and signed a lock. Do you watch other teams or just our games?

If you’re talking about Joffa he played prop for the last 6 weeks of 2020 and put up his best numbers there. Also played second row and bench. Who doesn’t watch games mate haha



Come see me when he starts at 13.

its so obvious.

That’s what Anthony Seibold thought ?



Thats as good as saying thats what Jason Taylor thought lol.

You’ve lost me bro. Joffa played lock throughout the worst period in Broncos history last year and ultimately the coach was sacked. Unsure where the skinny punching bag JT comes into it but I hope Joffa finds some of his earlier career form at WT. personally think it’ll be at prop but who knows.

He also made origin playing some lock I believe so Goes both ways. Pretty much the same position anyway for us at the moment, he's our best option at 13 most likely.

Unlike most on here I like Twal at lock a lot too, put up insane numbers every week playing there and gives our other props more of a break. If he comes off the bench he won't be as effective

I’d pick Twal too. He started last year on fire pre injuries

 

[BAGNF05]

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

Why would you do that when you just went out into the market and signed a lock. Do you watch other teams or just our games?

If you’re talking about Joffa he played prop for the last 6 weeks of 2020 and put up his best numbers there. Also played second row and bench. Who doesn’t watch games mate haha



Come see me when he starts at 13.

its so obvious.

That’s what Anthony Seibold thought ?



Thats as good as saying thats what Jason Taylor thought lol.

You’ve lost me bro. Joffa played lock throughout the worst period in Broncos history last year and ultimately the coach was sacked. Unsure where the skinny punching bag JT comes into it but I hope Joffa finds some of his earlier career form at WT. personally think it’ll be at prop but who knows.

He also made origin playing some lock I believe so Goes both ways. Pretty much the same position anyway for us at the moment, he's our best option at 13 most likely.

Unlike most on here I like Twal at lock a lot too, put up insane numbers every week playing there and gives our other props more of a break. If he comes off the bench he won't be as effective

Joffa is a middle forward whether that's lock or prop. He's certainly no second rower though, shows how much of a dummy Seibold is to play him there

Fair to say he’s a versatile forward. I think we will play a very direct style of attack this year if our prop rotation is going well. Tamou, Joffa, Musgrove and young Stefano need to be able to get us rolling then it’s going to be up to our growing list of speed guys like Nofa, Liddle, Brooksy, the Jet and Laurie to pick the gaps around the ruck. Sideways football is dying with the new rules IMO.

 

[tigerballs]

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

Why would you do that when you just went out into the market and signed a lock. Do you watch other teams or just our games?

If you’re talking about Joffa he played prop for the last 6 weeks of 2020 and put up his best numbers there. Also played second row and bench. Who doesn’t watch games mate haha



Come see me when he starts at 13.

its so obvious.

That’s what Anthony Seibold thought ?



Thats as good as saying thats what Jason Taylor thought lol.

You’ve lost me bro. Joffa played lock throughout the worst period in Broncos history last year and ultimately the coach was sacked. Unsure where the skinny punching bag JT comes into it but I hope Joffa finds some of his earlier career form at WT. personally think it’ll be at prop but who knows.

Not sure about that..Carrigan was there lock in most Games ..Ofahengaue when starting was at Prop bar 2 games in the back row..the rest where off the bench replacing Props..think he started 1 game at lock when Carrigan was out..

Not much difference between how he'd play at 10 or 13 for us I reckon

Yeah he started 1 came at lock, 3 in the second row, 4 at prop and 7 off the bench. All his games starting at prop were in the last 5 rounds where his stats improved dramatically.

I agree if he plays 13 for us it is probably as a 3rd prop, I believe the club still wants a ball playing, mobile option at 13 moving forward.

I'm curious to see how this unfolds. If Lucy and Blore both play to expectations the 3rd prop type 13 might be the right option.

 

[cochise]

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

Why would you do that when you just went out into the market and signed a lock. Do you watch other teams or just our games?

If you’re talking about Joffa he played prop for the last 6 weeks of 2020 and put up his best numbers there. Also played second row and bench. Who doesn’t watch games mate haha



Come see me when he starts at 13.

its so obvious.

That’s what Anthony Seibold thought ?



Thats as good as saying thats what Jason Taylor thought lol.

You’ve lost me bro. Joffa played lock throughout the worst period in Broncos history last year and ultimately the coach was sacked. Unsure where the skinny punching bag JT comes into it but I hope Joffa finds some of his earlier career form at WT. personally think it’ll be at prop but who knows.

Not sure about that..Carrigan was there lock in most Games ..Ofahengaue when starting was at Prop bar 2 games in the back row..the rest where off the bench replacing Props..think he started 1 game at lock when Carrigan was out..

Not much difference between how he'd play at 10 or 13 for us I reckon

Yeah he started 1 came at lock, 3 in the second row, 4 at prop and 7 off the bench. All his games starting at prop were in the last 5 rounds where his stats improved dramatically.

I agree if he plays 13 for us it is probably as a 3rd prop, I believe the club still wants a ball playing, mobile option at 13 moving forward.

I'm curious to see how this unfolds. If Lucy and Blore both play to expectations the 3rd prop type 13 might be the right option.

It could play out that way, its interesting, looking at Madge teams historically he likes the big, extra prop 13. Hartigan likes a mobile, ball playing 13 and see that as a missing link at the club.

With the forwards looking a lot leaner than years past maybe that is Madge's attempt to get some big bodies playing under the new 6 again rules.

 

[balmain boy]

Joffa has played a lot of lock over the years. He's always been a prop/lock. A powerful workhorse. Forget last season. Seibold was crazy and sunk the Titanic.

He's a lot more agile and has far better ball skills, offloading and line breaking potential than Twal. He's a much better overall option at lock. Twal is one dimensional. He's a solid workhorse who won't let you down but we can do better with an 80 minute player.

 

[hsvjones]

Joffa has played a lot of lock over the years. He's always been a prop/lock. A powerful workhorse. Forget last season. Seibold was crazy and sunk the Titanic.

He's a lot more agile and has far better ball skills, offloading and love breaking potential than Twal. He's a much better overall option at lock. Twal is one dimensional. He's a solid workhorse who won't let you down but we can do better with an 80 minute player.

Spot on... Agree 100% and under Seibold a lot of players didn't perform..
He was a SOO player before he got there and will perform well for us this year

 

[Needaname]

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

Why would you do that when you just went out into the market and signed a lock. Do you watch other teams or just our games?

If you’re talking about Joffa he played prop for the last 6 weeks of 2020 and put up his best numbers there. Also played second row and bench. Who doesn’t watch games mate haha



Come see me when he starts at 13.

its so obvious.

That’s what Anthony Seibold thought ?

Whilst I agree that he is more of a front rower then a backrower. Siebold didn’t ever play him at lock. Cartigan was lock and TPJ when he wasn’t available.
Siebold made the bold move of playing both Joffa and TPJ as edge back rowers. IMO both are not agile enough in defence. Joffa has great footwork at the line and good speed. Can work for 13 can also work as a prop. But he will only be a 13 if we decide to play a big body there.
I don’t think Twal has been completely ruled out as a lock.

 

[PJ_]

Joffa has played a lot of lock over the years. He's always been a prop/lock. A powerful workhorse. Forget last season. Seibold was crazy and sunk the Titanic.

He's a lot more agile and has far better ball skills, offloading and **love breaking potential** than Twal. He's a much better overall option at lock. Twal is one dimensional. He's a solid workhorse who won't let you down but we can do better with an 80 minute player.

😏 ooh yeah

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

One thing that baffles me is that Hastings has ripped up ESL and looked a class above it for 2 years now and many people on here still turn their nose up at him and say NO. Yet Gareth Widdop came over last year with a big reputation, did very little and looked average at best, in the very same competition as Hastings yet people still wanted to sign him when he was linked pre Christmas.

I hope you are not comparing Hastings with Widdop? Chalk and cheese.

You say "Widdop came over last year?"

He basically played here since 2010.

i.e. 2010-13 Melbourne Storm (71 games)
2014-19 St. George (125 games)

He earned his reputation don't worry. I know, so did Hastings, but that was as a Flog.


Widdop was outstanding and had a brilliant career in the NRL, I haven't once declared that he didn't. My point is recent form and peoples differing opinions on that.

Widdop flopped in a competition that many declare as average, yet Hastings excelled in it.

My point was, i don’t see how people would of still taken the older, injury prone player who looked average, but then not be interested in someone who's moved on to a lesser competition to rebuild his career, done exactly that and excelled from that point.

Im with you Pom.Many ppl on this forum are backward looking and make decisions dased on distant history ...eg his unsettled "character" from yrs ago at Manly etc(with mitigating circumstances) ......and are unable to digest subsequent events which clearly demonstrate Hastings has both behaved and matured and more importantly has absolutely killed it over there.
Add to that the fact that most who do well in ESL as playmakers generally succeed(and then some) here despite the differences in intensity of defence in NRL
Our current 6 and 7 BOTH are a little vulnerable to making a difference in 2021,and if given the oppportunity Hastings will have leapfrogged one (or probably both)of em to be permanent starter within a few rounds
Hastings is potentially a gamechanger for WTs.... hes is a lot more proven than most of our offseason 'troubled "recruits who havent proven anything on the field recently except "potential:..but still worth the gamble
Hastings is low risk high reward IMO

Yes, I am amazed how some ppl here can not want better players than what we have?

However imo Hastings isn't one of them. Think I am entitled to that opinion.

Whilst I am unsure on Hastings but can see the benefits, you are a staunch Liddle fan, and Hastings has shown as much or more than Liddle, so why is one a star and one a nuffie

Well it's simple really 851. These are my thoughts only (opinion if you like).

Hastings is a half / come 5/8 who did nothing previously in the NRL in 47 games.
He then went to ESL (basically equiv. to cc) and I watched a lot of his games and thought he was ordinary.
Plus he is a dope and full of himself (in my opinion).

Liddle on the other hand, I think is a good footballer and a very good DH in his 43 games in the NRL (in my opinion).
I have seen enough of him in most of those games to consider he will become one of the best DH's in the NRL over the next few years.

You do not have to agree, you obviously don't - that's fine .... everyone has their own opinions of players.

But seriously we need to look seriously at Liddle's future if he can't get 18-20 games at least ...I think he is off contract anyway from memory

Why do you think he’s still unsigned? Don’t you think that’s what we’re doing?

Liddle will be unsigned until mid year too injury prone. Not sure Hastings is the answer and Simpkins inexperienced

Simpkins is very inexperienced at Hooker.

Agree I just hope he gets a go because I'd hate to see another JAC he signs elsewhere.
if we dont resign liddle then hope Madge gives him a go

 

[Tim Sheens]

I seriously doubt we have any real interest in Hastings, especially for 2021. We have a lot of coin invested in players like Mybe and Brooks. Didn’t the club say they had to much cap tied up in halves when they let Benji go. Maybe they have sounded him out for 2022 if Brooks fails to deliver this year.
Also he is not going to leave the UK to play a under study role with us

Since though there is the departure of Josh Reynolds who reportedly was our most expensive half, assuming that Mbye was classed as a fullback and Douehi a half, so potentially opening up some dollars to be reinvested in that area.

 

[tigerbalm]

The opinions I've seen and respect say Hastings is more a hooker in the NRL then a halfback. We look at the hookers spot we have a 24 yr old with a horrible injury history and a 19 yr old with no 1st grade games - thats where we are looking i'd say



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Careful man, could end up with a stint on the side-lines with that obvious troll.

Huh? Are you serious?

Facetious. I thought it was pretty clear but obviously I over estimated.

 

[TheDaBoss]

So @iwasright since you or one of your inside personas got the daine predictiom correct about 3 months in advance.. what else you got to share with us, i think you mentioned somethint about some Curtis rona bloke who was comming

 

[Deleted member 3518]

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

We still are in need of a lock. Surely that has to be the priority now.

Or move Luci to lock and sign a dynamic edge second rower

Why would you do that when you just went out into the market and signed a lock. Do you watch other teams or just our games?

If you’re talking about Joffa he played prop for the last 6 weeks of 2020 and put up his best numbers there. Also played second row and bench. Who doesn’t watch games mate haha



Come see me when he starts at 13.

its so obvious.

That’s what Anthony Seibold thought ?



Thats as good as saying thats what Jason Taylor thought lol.

You’ve lost me bro. Joffa played lock throughout the worst period in Broncos history last year and ultimately the coach was sacked. Unsure where the skinny punching bag JT comes into it but I hope Joffa finds some of his earlier career form at WT. personally think it’ll be at prop but who knows.

Not sure about that..Carrigan was there lock in most Games ..Ofahengaue when starting was at Prop bar 2 games in the back row..the rest where off the bench replacing Props..think he started 1 game at lock when Carrigan was out..

Not much difference between how he'd play at 10 or 13 for us I reckon

Yeah he started 1 came at lock, 3 in the second row, 4 at prop and 7 off the bench. All his games starting at prop were in the last 5 rounds where his stats improved dramatically.

Thank you, by correcting me you have only enhanced my point. I think he’s a prop haha

Correcting you? I agree I think he is a prop, we may play him at 13 this year but that is because we don't have a 13.

I thought he played more lock than that under Seibold but knew he’d been moved all around in the forwards. My original point (now a couple of pages back) was that his best position is up front.

What’s the difference ? Madge has stated before that size isn’t A variable when deciding things like lock.they base it on agility, ball skills , engine , work rate etc. for instance Taumalolo is absolutely huge , and he’s the perfect lock .
I know 1 thing . Twal is not a lock . Only because his link play is diabolical. So if Joffa can get through the same work as a front rower , whilst providing that link play when necessary , at more. higher of volume than anyone else , then joffa is the man for the job. I wouldn’t even care if it was stefano or Musgrove , or Simpkins or Mbye (won’t happen , just making a point )Who ever can hit the metrics required to do that job to high standard gets the 13 jersey.
You have this image in your head , about stuff , when it’s not a really applicable. If they look like victor radley or Taumalolo , it’s irrelevant . I know which one is prefer.

 

[851]

Joffa has played a lot of lock over the years. He's always been a prop/lock. A powerful workhorse. Forget last season. Seibold was crazy and sunk the Titanic.

He's a lot more agile and has far better ball skills, offloading and love breaking potential than Twal. He's a much better overall option at lock. Twal is one dimensional. He's a solid workhorse who won't let you down but we can do better with an 80 minute player.

I have been saying this for a long time, Twal is not a lock, he is a decent prop, and that is where he should play.
Joffa should get first crack at lock, unless we sign a genuine one before hand

 

[weststigers]

Joffa has played a lot of lock over the years. He's always been a prop/lock. A powerful workhorse. Forget last season. Seibold was crazy and sunk the Titanic.

He's a lot more agile and has far better ball skills, offloading and love breaking potential than Twal. He's a much better overall option at lock. Twal is one dimensional. He's a solid workhorse who won't let you down but we can do better with an 80 minute player.


I have been saying this for a long time, Twal is not a lock, he is a decent prop, and that is where he should play.
Joffa should get first crack at lock, unless we sign a genuine one before hand

Totally agree Twal's best position is Prop.

As for the 13, someone will put their hand up and make it their own this year. There's no obvious candidate right now, but time will tell.

We have some decent go forward this year and a good mix of experience and youth. I'm reasonably confident we'll be competetive.

The big question mark for me is the Brooks/Doueihi combo, followed by the form of Joey and Jimmy. If all these guys fire then look out, if not, we'll come near last.

 

[balmain boy]

Joffa has played a lot of lock over the years. He's always been a prop/lock. A powerful workhorse. Forget last season. Seibold was crazy and sunk the Titanic.

He's a lot more agile and has far better ball skills, offloading and **love breaking potential** than Twal. He's a much better overall option at lock. Twal is one dimensional. He's a solid workhorse who won't let you down but we can do better with an 80 minute player.

? ooh yeah

ohhhhh ....mmmmmm. Let's put it down to autocorrect.

I hate all the keyboards on my phone. They all think they're smarter than I am. They're not!

 

[sleeve]

It appears many think we need a mobile ball playing lock.Has anyone have an opinion on how Blore,CheeKam,or even Garner would go in this role?Taking into account these guys appeared to have built up,and we have better training and coaching staff this year

 

[Goldust]

It appears many think we need a mobile ball playing lock.Has anyone have an opinion on how Blore,CheeKam,or even Garner would go in this role?Taking into account these guys appeared to have built up,and we have better training and coaching staff this year

I think Blore May have the credentials for the role.but not the motor.
I thought Garner but his defence can be suspect.
I’m judging Cheekam harshly but I just don’t think he would perform consistently.
I think we may have to outsource.