Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371302) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371277) said:
@trippa101 you lost me with your first line about some on here being deluded. What makes you think you're not one of them? I stopped reading after multiple spelling errors in WT players' names.

Come on Tiger, we're all deluded, otherwise we wouldn't be in here.

Some of us are here in more than one form.
 
The signing of Noffo to that 4 year deal is probably the most outrageous decision the club has made in many a year ..a signing of personality to actual talent this alone should be looked at in any review that might be forth coming .
 
@snake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371319) said:
The signing of Noffo to that 4 year deal is probably the most outrageous decision the club has made in many a year ..a signing of personality to actual talent this alone should be looked at in any review that might be forth coming .

Chuck in bringing Benji and Robbie back. And people want to tell me we're managed well. Clueless club.
 
@snake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371319) said:
The signing of Noffo to that 4 year deal is probably the most outrageous decision the club has made in many a year ..a signing of personality to actual talent this alone should be looked at in any review that might be forth coming .

There is not a lot that can be done about that, even with a review.
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1369622) said:
@everything-wt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1369621) said:
Doueihi is the only one I notice showing some emotion. Ofahengaue is always walking around smiling and laughing with former teammates after a loss. Annoys the daylights out of me when you travel hours to the game and the players don’t give a rats about the result

That’s just how it is these days. They are all mates. Social Media has made everyone closer


that's a very ironic reply
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371326) said:
@snake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371319) said:
The signing of Noffo to that 4 year deal is probably the most outrageous decision the club has made in many a year ..a signing of personality to actual talent this alone should be looked at in any review that might be forth coming .

There is not a lot that can be done about that, even with a review.

Sack Hagipantelis... lol
 
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371125) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371107) said:
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371093) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1370725) said:
Reality is there isn’t 2-3 marquee style players on the market.

There are some good players, some rising talent and fringe players up for grabs.

Issue is in a competitive market where a few clubs have cash we either have to take huge risks or we go the slow burn - pay huge overs or buy for price, invest in yet to be known players and grab out of sorts players to hopefully build a competitive squad which may take another 2-3yrs to see the benefits of.

We suck and not alot of current 1st graders would jump from the storm etc to come here unless they got well compensated & even then most pick winning over the cash anyway.

TBH after watching Hynes do it again last night. He is the real deal. He is 100% a marquee player. Demands the ball every single set and makes consistent correct decisions. Not to mention his support play. He literally backs up almost every hit up.

Can play anywhere.
I'd like him in the centres for us.

I like him at 1. I’m wondering if Gus is right and Laurie’s best position is 6.

It’s really hard to judge because we somehow haven’t worked out how to use him properly in attack at fullback.

It baffles me that we haven’t worked out how to run an effective block play that gives Laurie some room to make a decision. Every other fullback in the game gets that opportunity.

Laurie no tommy turbo that’s for sure
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371326) said:
@snake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371319) said:
The signing of Noffo to that 4 year deal is probably the most outrageous decision the club has made in many a year ..a signing of personality to actual talent this alone should be looked at in any review that might be forth coming .

There is not a lot that can be done about that, even with a review.

Did that call really come from the board?
 
@trippa101 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371273) said:
honestly some are on this forum are deluded --

Douehi better 6 than Burton - dumb.

Cini, Kei, Fitzgibbon and any other backs we have in Reserve Grade -- are never going to be amazing first graders.... just because we are winning games in that competition means nothing when the gap between the top 6 and the bottom 10 teams (in NRL) and those players in reserve grade cant crack the bottom 10 teams .... Has anyone actually watched how slow reserve grade is?

We are so used to mediocrity that we are hopeful of our amazing juniors (by the way - that is what every club says about their juniors).

People saying that Taiperi (spelling) is the next superstar??? Like really... you know who the next superstar is - SAM WALKER - SUALI - WALSH - players who can come into first grade at 18 and kill it. We do not have a next superstar because if we did he would be debuting in first grade this year or absolutely killing it in Reserve Grade.....

We had amazing juniors when Benji and Robbie were killing it as teenagers. Maybe there are some in Flegg but they are so far off and again if they were amazing the media would be frothing over them.

We need top line talent.... period.... proven winners... top 6 teams talent... maybe some off cuts from other teams that aren't performing.

And if Douehi is captain of this team help us all... yes he's passionate but he is not a group motivator because he is so tough on himself ... and he's not a superstar that other players are going to respect or gain confidence from .... and before others say he is a superstar... yes he's had some good games for us but we are coming second last! I'm not sure how many other team he would be a starter at in #6 maybe a few at Center.

And if im wrong about any of this.. you can bring this post up and ill come to a game and eat my hat in front of you all🙂

After watching Manly today - some of those forwards and backs smashing team --- we are SOOOOO MEDIOCRE.

Our only bet is that Hastings comes next year and is the BUY of the year. Otherwise they'll sack Madge and we'll start the next 5 year rebuild.

Sorry to be the bearer of reality but we have zero at the moment. Unless we buy some players we're simply shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.


Yeah no worries........at what price?
 
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371332) said:
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371125) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371107) said:
@atown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371093) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1370725) said:
Reality is there isn’t 2-3 marquee style players on the market.

There are some good players, some rising talent and fringe players up for grabs.

Issue is in a competitive market where a few clubs have cash we either have to take huge risks or we go the slow burn - pay huge overs or buy for price, invest in yet to be known players and grab out of sorts players to hopefully build a competitive squad which may take another 2-3yrs to see the benefits of.

We suck and not alot of current 1st graders would jump from the storm etc to come here unless they got well compensated & even then most pick winning over the cash anyway.

TBH after watching Hynes do it again last night. He is the real deal. He is 100% a marquee player. Demands the ball every single set and makes consistent correct decisions. Not to mention his support play. He literally backs up almost every hit up.

Can play anywhere.
I'd like him in the centres for us.

I like him at 1. I’m wondering if Gus is right and Laurie’s best position is 6.

It’s really hard to judge because we somehow haven’t worked out how to use him properly in attack at fullback.

It baffles me that we haven’t worked out how to run an effective block play that gives Laurie some room to make a decision. Every other fullback in the game gets that opportunity.

Laurie no tommy turbo that’s for sure


There are 15 clubs without a Tommy Turbo
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371295) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371286) said:
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371278) said:
Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371349) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371295) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371286) said:
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371278) said:
Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371362) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371349) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371295) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371286) said:
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371278) said:
Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.


I have to admit I waws wrong about letting Momo go, but that is kinda the point.

Momo has a very narrow band between his possible best and worst. JTJ and Joeys best are WAY higher than Momo's best but unfortunatley their worst is also lower than MOmo's and right now we could do with some boring monotony Momo still.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371362) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371349) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371295) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371286) said:
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371278) said:
Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371365) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371362) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371349) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371295) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371286) said:
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371278) said:
Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.


I have to admit I waws wrong about letting Momo go, but that is kinda the point.

Momo has a very narrow band between his possible best and worst. JTJ and Joeys best are WAY higher than Momo's best but unfortunatley their worst is also lower than MOmo's and right now we could do with some boring monotony Momo still.

Yeah I agree with that, Momo wasn't a player that was going to get this squad to the semis though. Roberts and Joey could have, they haven't but that was the thinking behind it. We will be out of those contracts this year though.
 
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371303) said:
I agree with most of that. But, I reckon Thompson was the only player anyone wanted from our roster. He is a great player

Thompson's height is a big weakness on the wing that kept being exploited by opposition teams with tall wingers. As a fullback he is nowhere near the quality of Tedesco, Paps Turbo and some others.

He did not fit well with the rest of our spine. I still enjoy his running game even when he plays for the Titans.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371369) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371362) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371349) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371295) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371286) said:
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371278) said:
Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371374) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371369) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371362) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371349) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371295) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371286) said:
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371278) said:
Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.

Come on mate he’s copping about 4 grand a week to do nothing. We could have a young kid learning the ropes right now. It was always doomed.

Edit: certain people in the club just like seeing their name on a story that says ‘former origin player’, it’s a marketing ploy nothing more, story should have read ‘serial failure’
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371375) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371374) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371369) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371362) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371349) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371295) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371286) said:
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1371278) said:
Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.

Come on mate he’s copping about 4 grand a week to do nothing. We could have a young kid learning the ropes right now. It was always doomed.

Who Talau? Roberts is on close to minimum wage, we are about $750k under the cap, with 2 spots still vacant and all reserve grade players being eligible for firsts grade. His signing held no one back.
 

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