Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@cctw said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380047) said:
@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378836) said:
@cctw said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378830) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378798) said:
Bellamy just said on live radio now, Hynes is leaving Melbourne, said Nicho will tell you the details

Cronulla

Nice get nulla.

Got any news regarding wt?

Not much news to share on WT. Two year deal on the table for Mikaele and currently looking for a winger - which is pretty well documented. There have been some offered to us but they're not really upgrades on what we have. Looking for a quality winger not just a fringe first grader. Seen a few have suggest Tupou, however he wants to stay at the Roosters. Will likely re-sign there, Roosters just need to sort out what is happening with Josh Morris and few others to figure out how much they have left in their cap.

Heard some news that B.Smith had a good offer on the table from the Dogs and Melbourne were warming up to releasing him for the right price but Smith has no interest in going to the Dogs at this stage. He looks to have his eye on the new Brisbane franchise (as is another current Melbourne player) which is why he opted to stay at Melbourne for 2022. He is also looking to move his family to south-east Queensland.

It seems like a few players are eyeing off one year deals/2022 off season as a new team will increase salaries due to the extra money in the league/cap. Kurt Capewell is one of them as he looks to sign a 1 year deal with Penrith.

Cheers. Appreciate the info as always.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO

18 tests in 5 years for Australia. He was the best prop in the game a coupe of years there IMO.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.

That’s a new one, Woods was poorly treated by the club….?
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380066) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380067) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380066) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380068) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380067) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380066) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380069) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380068) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380067) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380066) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.

Mate it has been pointed out numerous times that woods signed with the dogs before Packer signed here. Woods also had an offer on the table for months before he signed elsewhere. Even worse the club captain was touring other teams facilities with players from our club. doesn't sound like a captain to me.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380069) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380068) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380067) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380066) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380072) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380069) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380068) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380067) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380066) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380073) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380072) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380069) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380068) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380067) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380066) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.

So now you are sliding your story from he left because we signed Packer to he left but we later paid Packer more?
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380073) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380072) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380069) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380068) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380067) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380066) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight. So the club signed Packer for $800K before Woods left and that would work under the cap....how?

And who is telling Woods how much Packer got in his contract? The club, Packer?

Its a simple story you are over complicating. The club valued Woods at a number much less than Woods wanted and the club was right. Woods could get that money at Dogs and we know how that worked out.

Please think about it. If you agree to terms, you don't get paid from that instant, you get paid when you start training with the club. Addo Carr isn't getting paid by the Dogs until next season, even though he agreed to terms months ago. And yes, Woods went to the Dogs for more money but the WT paid even more for Russell Packer, and we know how that worked out.


He would be paid from 1 November, not when started training. Your premise is ridiculous. Woods had the deal on the table for months, if Woods said yes and didnt leave, in your fantasy the Tigers would have a $800K cap problem. No way they agreed to Packer with Woods in the roster.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380070) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380069) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380068) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380067) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380066) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.

Mate it has been pointed out numerous times that woods signed with the dogs before Packer signed here. Woods also had an offer on the table for months before he signed elsewhere. Even worse the club captain was touring other teams facilities with players from our club. doesn't sound like a captain to me.

So you were privy to the mood amongst the players at the time and you believe they were all delighted with the upheaval under Taylor and looking forward to more uncertainty with the fourth coach in 6 years. I see you have a sound understanding of what makes a successful football team and should pursue a career in player management with the advice you are obviously capable of providing.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380069) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380068) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380067) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380066) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380063) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380057) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380055) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380054) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380048) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379872) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379793) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379779) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379777) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379775) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379773) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379769) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379761) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379756) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379750) said:
It's funny how people who go Moses and other players, call them dogs etc now support Woods coming back to the club.

Screw that rubbish.

The guy was club captain and tried to take all our good players to another club.

The absolute last player id let back in the club.

He’s a grub who thought he was bigger than the club. Think of the Hooper interview where he threw the club under the bus. Around that time he was also a regular on NRL 360. He never once defended the club or spoke on behalf of the club. He was looking out for himself. To do all that as captain, made him one of the most selfish players I can ever remember.


No one in this forum would ever throw the club under the bus...

We’re supporters. Even if we do, we don’t walk away. Players on the other hand

He left under Cleary's watch. What's your opinion of Cleary, one of our greats? Ever talked Cleary up yourself?

I’m failing to see how that’s relevant? If he was loyal to the club, wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was.

Can't be bothered explaining...

No, please do. Don’t back down.

The Jason Taylor years were a nightmare from which it was going to be very difficult to recover. I had a conversation with Siro at the time who told me how frustrated Curtis was at being lied to all the time by Taylor. The players hated Taylor. Woods was the glue in a side when certain players were threatening mutiny. When the club shafted Taylor, who by the way was brought in to do a certain job, and signed Cleary, it really hit the fan. Woodsy wanted to stay. He was club captain and wanted to be a Tiger for life. He loved the Tigers and he thought they loved him. When Cleary offered a his old mate, a convicted criminal 200k a season more than the club captain, to play the same position, it kind of rubbed people the wrong way, particularly when Woods had only ever done his best for the club. He asked if he could be upgraded to the same money as the crim and was told to look elsewhere if he wanted more money. It's common knowledge now that we wasted 800,000k for 3 seasons when we could have kept, at the time, ***the best front rower in the game.***


The rest of your post may be correct, but there was never a time that Woods was the best front rower in the game.

2015 Dally M prop of the year, runner up to JT player of the year.


So Luke Brooks is/was the best Half in the game?

Alright, 2015 and 2016, most metres average by any forward, 40 tackles per game in SOO


2016, Sam Burgess and JWH existed, but I guess you would rather Aaron Woods?

I'll simplify my original point just for you... Woods was poorly treated by Ivan and the club and I don't blame him for leaving or even expressing his disappointment. At the time he was a starting front rower for the Kangaroos and considered by many as the best front rower at that time. That rating is, of course, only an opinion and open to debate. I don't think we should resign him.


In what way did Cleary treat him poorly? Club put a price on him and he wanted more. Club was right at the time and it was proven right by his time at DOgs and Sharks..

Yep, you are right, they were right, Russell Packer was way more valuable to the club than Aaron Woods.


Woods left before Packer signed.

He left before Packer started, not before he agreed to terms.

Is this some alternate universe where you’re only allowed to have 1 prop?
 

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