Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[frullens]

So is munster getting the flick from Melbourne ??

I would suggest no, he's not.

Don’t be to confident of that … Bellamy and the Storm are not happy campers at present , someone will be shown the door I reckon.


Apparently Bellamy was livid a few years ago when Bromwich had a little snort of coke.
So he would be really pissed a Smith and Munster.

Its funny how people say madge is too intense and yells at his players, etc
But Bellamy does it more so

Only difference is WT culture

Difference is Bellamy has set up an elite system that gets the best out of almost every player that plays there

Madge gave us the worst defensive structures we've ever had

Madge set up an elite system also.... they just played in a GF

You think Maguire is responsible for this Souths team playing in the finals? Is he also responsible for Wigan's average Superleague season this year too?

In the 7 years after Madge left wigan won 3 premierships under his former assistant coach. Wigan have been hit by injury this year, still played finals.

At south's read the link below about the GF 17 and see how often madges name is specifically mentioned.

Madge bought into the team:
Alex Johnson
Dane Gagai
Campbell Graham
Cody Walker
Adam Reynolds
Damien Cook
Cam Murray
Tom Burgess

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/09/28/1-17-souths-signings-the-gambles-bargains-and-local-lads-in-rabbitohs-rise/

The sad truth of Maguire's time here is that: players want to leave, players don't want to come and players don't buy into his coaching. His past success is something he'll always have but that has little relevance to Wests Tigers.

I also can't believe that you're giving him credit for Wigan's current position, a club he coached a decade ago. I guess we should blame our current position on Sheens then.

The truth is we have a core group of younger players that have bought in including The Ute , AD, Laurie, Seyfarth, Maumolo, Blore, Tuilagi, Twal,. What we are missing experienced leaders and an x factor, something I hope the new football committee is working on.

I was responding that Madge has set up successful systems at Wigan and Souths which has seen success even after he has left.

He's our coach - best to get on board and find the positives.

Exactly mate, I was ready for us to move on from Madge but the decision was made to keep him. Our only chance of success for next season is with Madge in charge so I will support him getting the job done.

I have to accept that Madge is our coach of choice(!!) next year...and I have to support him..but Id be astonished if he can "get the job done".next year or any other year at WTs
Unfortunately the evidence(last 3 years results/Tigertown (which explains the underlying drivers)gives me little cause for any optimism,for which i apologise.
Think it will be another lost year of "building towards the future"..like the past 10!
As a former WTs captain says..it is what it is!
..cough..or was that a dry reach?

While I do tend to agree, I try to be positive in life when I can be lol

Yep..but gotta match it with realism and pragmatism!!
Glass is always half something or other...!

It sounds stupid, but I honestly have a few mental health issues and if I don't find a way to keep positive about things, even the Wests Tigers, I slide into a bad head space that is best to avoid.

Not stupid at all mate.
I think that's where this forum and sport in general is great in providing a community and supporting each other.

Its been a tough year on the field and in real life but I can always find a post on here that makes me laugh or a posotive comment that gives me hope.

And if nothing else - I just think back to the whole Leichhardt crowd signing 'Clearys a w#@nker!' And will always make me proud to be a WT supporter ?
????

 

[JRDee]

The stocks of Penrith defensive coach Cameron Ciraldo continue to rise. The Panthers have clearly been the best defensive side over the past two seasons. He can now sit back and wait for the right head coaching offer, which most rookie coaches don't usually get the chance to do.

They missed 59 tackles last night

 

[clontarfkid]

So is munster getting the flick from Melbourne ??

I would suggest no, he's not.

Don’t be to confident of that … Bellamy and the Storm are not happy campers at present , someone will be shown the door I reckon.


Apparently Bellamy was livid a few years ago when Bromwich had a little snort of coke.
So he would be really pissed a Smith and Munster.

Its funny how people say madge is too intense and yells at his players, etc
But Bellamy does it more so

Only difference is WT culture

Difference is Bellamy has set up an elite system that gets the best out of almost every player that plays there

Madge gave us the worst defensive structures we've ever had

Madge set up an elite system also.... they just played in a GF

You think Maguire is responsible for this Souths team playing in the finals? Is he also responsible for Wigan's average Superleague season this year too?

In the 7 years after Madge left wigan won 3 premierships under his former assistant coach. Wigan have been hit by injury this year, still played finals.

At south's read the link below about the GF 17 and see how often madges name is specifically mentioned.

Madge bought into the team:
Alex Johnson
Dane Gagai
Campbell Graham
Cody Walker
Adam Reynolds
Damien Cook
Cam Murray
Tom Burgess

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/09/28/1-17-souths-signings-the-gambles-bargains-and-local-lads-in-rabbitohs-rise/

The sad truth of Maguire's time here is that: players want to leave, players don't want to come and players don't buy into his coaching. His past success is something he'll always have but that has little relevance to Wests Tigers.

I also can't believe that you're giving him credit for Wigan's current position, a club he coached a decade ago. I guess we should blame our current position on Sheens then.

The truth is we have a core group of younger players that have bought in including The Ute , AD, Laurie, Seyfarth, Maumolo, Blore, Tuilagi, Twal,. What we are missing experienced leaders and an x factor, something I hope the new football committee is working on.

I was responding that Madge has set up successful systems at Wigan and Souths which has seen success even after he has left.

He's our coach - best to get on board and find the positives.

Exactly mate, I was ready for us to move on from Madge but the decision was made to keep him. Our only chance of success for next season is with Madge in charge so I will support him getting the job done.

I have to accept that Madge is our coach of choice(!!) next year...and I have to support him..but Id be astonished if he can "get the job done".next year or any other year at WTs
Unfortunately the evidence(last 3 years results/Tigertown (which explains the underlying drivers)gives me little cause for any optimism,for which i apologise.
Think it will be another lost year of "building towards the future"..like the past 10!
As a former WTs captain says..it is what it is!
..cough..or was that a dry reach?

While I do tend to agree, I try to be positive in life when I can be lol

Yep..but gotta match it with realism and pragmatism!!
Glass is always half something or other...!

It sounds stupid, but I honestly have a few mental health issues and if I don't find a way to keep positive about things, even the Wests Tigers, I slide into a bad head space that is best to avoid.

At the end of the day,its just a bunch of beefy blokes worshipping a piece of pigskin with an inflatable bladder in it(according to my SO)....and with the season formallyconcluding,we all have a 6 month suspension of our sentence before having to watch another WT game!!

 

[88]

If the Peachey signing is a done deal as reported I don’t mind it. We need a 14 and some cover for Doueihi until he is fit again. Pretty well a replacement for Mbye with say similar level of talent (if not more as he is versatile). At less than half the money I’d say a reasonable bit of business.

2 years is a good length and he does help to promote the indigenous player appeal that we are trying to grow. If you look at it as an upgrade from Mbye purely based on lots of money saved (ie: they can still sign another decent player with the remaining money) then these are the types on moneyball plays that leave your roster in decent shape to make a serious play at marquee players when they become available. Fingers crossed he plays well for us if he does indeed come.

 

[JC99]

The stocks of Penrith defensive coach Cameron Ciraldo continue to rise. The Panthers have clearly been the best defensive side over the past two seasons. He can now sit back and wait for the right head coaching offer, which most rookie coaches don't usually get the chance to do.

They missed 59 tackles last night

Yet defended their way to a grand final win. Their absolutely battered Souths with their defence all night long and slowed the ruck down perfectly to suit them. Line speed was incredible too

 

[bathursttiger1]

So is munster getting the flick from Melbourne ??

I would suggest no, he's not.

Don’t be to confident of that … Bellamy and the Storm are not happy campers at present , someone will be shown the door I reckon.


Apparently Bellamy was livid a few years ago when Bromwich had a little snort of coke.
So he would be really pissed a Smith and Munster.

Its funny how people say madge is too intense and yells at his players, etc
But Bellamy does it more so

Only difference is WT culture

Difference is Bellamy has set up an elite system that gets the best out of almost every player that plays there

Madge gave us the worst defensive structures we've ever had

Madge set up an elite system also.... they just played in a GF

You think Maguire is responsible for this Souths team playing in the finals? Is he also responsible for Wigan's average Superleague season this year too?

In the 7 years after Madge left wigan won 3 premierships under his former assistant coach. Wigan have been hit by injury this year, still played finals.

At south's read the link below about the GF 17 and see how often madges name is specifically mentioned.

Madge bought into the team:
Alex Johnson
Dane Gagai
Campbell Graham
Cody Walker
Adam Reynolds
Damien Cook
Cam Murray
Tom Burgess

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/09/28/1-17-souths-signings-the-gambles-bargains-and-local-lads-in-rabbitohs-rise/

The sad truth of Maguire's time here is that: players want to leave, players don't want to come and players don't buy into his coaching. His past success is something he'll always have but that has little relevance to Wests Tigers.

I also can't believe that you're giving him credit for Wigan's current position, a club he coached a decade ago. I guess we should blame our current position on Sheens then.

The truth is we have a core group of younger players that have bought in including The Ute , AD, Laurie, Seyfarth, Maumolo, Blore, Tuilagi, Twal,. What we are missing experienced leaders and an x factor, something I hope the new football committee is working on.

I was responding that Madge has set up successful systems at Wigan and Souths which has seen success even after he has left.

He's our coach - best to get on board and find the positives.

Exactly mate, I was ready for us to move on from Madge but the decision was made to keep him. Our only chance of success for next season is with Madge in charge so I will support him getting the job done.

I have to accept that Madge is our coach of choice(!!) next year...and I have to support him..but Id be astonished if he can "get the job done".next year or any other year at WTs
Unfortunately the evidence(last 3 years results/Tigertown (which explains the underlying drivers)gives me little cause for any optimism,for which i apologise.
Think it will be another lost year of "building towards the future"..like the past 10!
As a former WTs captain says..it is what it is!
..cough..or was that a dry reach?

While I do tend to agree, I try to be positive in life when I can be lol

Yep..but gotta match it with realism and pragmatism!!
Glass is always half something or other...!

It sounds stupid, but I honestly have a few mental health issues and if I don't find a way to keep positive about things, even the Wests Tigers, I slide into a bad head space that is best to avoid.

Not stupid at all mate.
I think that's where this forum and sport in general is great in providing a community and supporting each other.

Its been a tough year on the field and in real life but I can always find a post on here that makes me laugh or a posotive comment that gives me hope.

And if nothing else - I just think back to the whole Leichhardt crowd signing 'Clearys a w#@nker!' And will always make me proud to be a WT supporter ?
????

I go onto Youtube and watch Anthony Watts cop a hiding.

 

[cochise]

So is munster getting the flick from Melbourne ??

I would suggest no, he's not.

Don’t be to confident of that … Bellamy and the Storm are not happy campers at present , someone will be shown the door I reckon.


Apparently Bellamy was livid a few years ago when Bromwich had a little snort of coke.
So he would be really pissed a Smith and Munster.

Its funny how people say madge is too intense and yells at his players, etc
But Bellamy does it more so

Only difference is WT culture

Difference is Bellamy has set up an elite system that gets the best out of almost every player that plays there

Madge gave us the worst defensive structures we've ever had

Madge set up an elite system also.... they just played in a GF

You think Maguire is responsible for this Souths team playing in the finals? Is he also responsible for Wigan's average Superleague season this year too?

In the 7 years after Madge left wigan won 3 premierships under his former assistant coach. Wigan have been hit by injury this year, still played finals.

At south's read the link below about the GF 17 and see how often madges name is specifically mentioned.

Madge bought into the team:
Alex Johnson
Dane Gagai
Campbell Graham
Cody Walker
Adam Reynolds
Damien Cook
Cam Murray
Tom Burgess

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/09/28/1-17-souths-signings-the-gambles-bargains-and-local-lads-in-rabbitohs-rise/

The sad truth of Maguire's time here is that: players want to leave, players don't want to come and players don't buy into his coaching. His past success is something he'll always have but that has little relevance to Wests Tigers.

I also can't believe that you're giving him credit for Wigan's current position, a club he coached a decade ago. I guess we should blame our current position on Sheens then.

The truth is we have a core group of younger players that have bought in including The Ute , AD, Laurie, Seyfarth, Maumolo, Blore, Tuilagi, Twal,. What we are missing experienced leaders and an x factor, something I hope the new football committee is working on.

I was responding that Madge has set up successful systems at Wigan and Souths which has seen success even after he has left.

He's our coach - best to get on board and find the positives.

Exactly mate, I was ready for us to move on from Madge but the decision was made to keep him. Our only chance of success for next season is with Madge in charge so I will support him getting the job done.

I have to accept that Madge is our coach of choice(!!) next year...and I have to support him..but Id be astonished if he can "get the job done".next year or any other year at WTs
Unfortunately the evidence(last 3 years results/Tigertown (which explains the underlying drivers)gives me little cause for any optimism,for which i apologise.
Think it will be another lost year of "building towards the future"..like the past 10!
As a former WTs captain says..it is what it is!
..cough..or was that a dry reach?

While I do tend to agree, I try to be positive in life when I can be lol

Yep..but gotta match it with realism and pragmatism!!
Glass is always half something or other...!

It sounds stupid, but I honestly have a few mental health issues and if I don't find a way to keep positive about things, even the Wests Tigers, I slide into a bad head space that is best to avoid.

At the end of the day,its just a bunch of beefy blokes worshipping a piece of pigskin with an inflatable bladder in it(according to my SO)....and with the season formallyconcluding,we all have a 6 month suspension of our sentence before having to watch another WT game!!

I miss watching footy already lol. Even a bad game.

 

[yeahcaz]

The stocks of Penrith defensive coach Cameron Ciraldo continue to rise. The Panthers have clearly been the best defensive side over the past two seasons. He can now sit back and wait for the right head coaching offer, which most rookie coaches don't usually get the chance to do.

They missed 59 tackles last night

And ? They kept a side who put 40 on manly the week before to 2 tries, 1 off a simple defensive lapse. They made the tackles they need to, who cares if you fall off a few in the middle

 

[cochise]

The stocks of Penrith defensive coach Cameron Ciraldo continue to rise. The Panthers have clearly been the best defensive side over the past two seasons. He can now sit back and wait for the right head coaching offer, which most rookie coaches don't usually get the chance to do.

They missed 59 tackles last night

And ? They kept a side who put 40 on manly the week before to 2 tries, 1 off a simple defensive lapse. They made the tackles they need to, who cares if you fall off a few in the middle

I can tell not one of their players has even thought about a miss tackle they made lol.

 

[WT2K]

So is munster getting the flick from Melbourne ??

I would suggest no, he's not.

Don’t be to confident of that … Bellamy and the Storm are not happy campers at present , someone will be shown the door I reckon.


Apparently Bellamy was livid a few years ago when Bromwich had a little snort of coke.
So he would be really pissed a Smith and Munster.

Its funny how people say madge is too intense and yells at his players, etc
But Bellamy does it more so

Only difference is WT culture

Difference is Bellamy has set up an elite system that gets the best out of almost every player that plays there

Madge gave us the worst defensive structures we've ever had

Madge set up an elite system also.... they just played in a GF

You think Maguire is responsible for this Souths team playing in the finals? Is he also responsible for Wigan's average Superleague season this year too?

In the 7 years after Madge left wigan won 3 premierships under his former assistant coach. Wigan have been hit by injury this year, still played finals.

At south's read the link below about the GF 17 and see how often madges name is specifically mentioned.

Madge bought into the team:
Alex Johnson
Dane Gagai
Campbell Graham
Cody Walker
Adam Reynolds
Damien Cook
Cam Murray
Tom Burgess

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/09/28/1-17-souths-signings-the-gambles-bargains-and-local-lads-in-rabbitohs-rise/

The sad truth of Maguire's time here is that: players want to leave, players don't want to come and players don't buy into his coaching. His past success is something he'll always have but that has little relevance to Wests Tigers.

I also can't believe that you're giving him credit for Wigan's current position, a club he coached a decade ago. I guess we should blame our current position on Sheens then.

The truth is we have a core group of younger players that have bought in including The Ute , AD, Laurie, Seyfarth, Maumolo, Blore, Tuilagi, Twal,. What we are missing experienced leaders and an x factor, something I hope the new football committee is working on.

I was responding that Madge has set up successful systems at Wigan and Souths which has seen success even after he has left.

He's our coach - best to get on board and find the positives.

Exactly mate, I was ready for us to move on from Madge but the decision was made to keep him. Our only chance of success for next season is with Madge in charge so I will support him getting the job done.

I have to accept that Madge is our coach of choice(!!) next year...and I have to support him..but Id be astonished if he can "get the job done".next year or any other year at WTs
Unfortunately the evidence(last 3 years results/Tigertown (which explains the underlying drivers)gives me little cause for any optimism,for which i apologise.
Think it will be another lost year of "building towards the future"..like the past 10!
As a former WTs captain says..it is what it is!
..cough..or was that a dry reach?

While I do tend to agree, I try to be positive in life when I can be lol

Yep..but gotta match it with realism and pragmatism!!
Glass is always half something or other...!

It sounds stupid, but I honestly have a few mental health issues and if I don't find a way to keep positive about things, even the Wests Tigers, I slide into a bad head space that is best to avoid.

At the end of the day,its just a bunch of beefy blokes worshipping a piece of pigskin with an inflatable bladder in it(according to my SO)....and with the season formallyconcluding,we all have a 6 month suspension of our sentence before having to watch another WT game!!

I miss watching footy already lol. Even a bad game.

1 day down, 156 to go

 

[gregjm87]

If the Peachey signing is a done deal as reported I don’t mind it. We need a 14 and some cover for Doueihi until he is fit again. Pretty well a replacement for Mbye with say similar level of talent (if not more as he is versatile). At less than half the money I’d say a reasonable bit of business.

2 years is a good length and he does help to promote the indigenous player appeal that we are trying to grow. If you look at it as an upgrade from Mbye purely based on lots of money saved (ie: they can still sign another decent player with the remaining money) then these are the types on moneyball plays that leave your roster in decent shape to make a serious play at marquee players when they become available. Fingers crossed he plays well for us if he does indeed come.

I havent really got any issue with the Peachey signing but dont think he is at a discount compared to Mbye. Were still paying a significant portion of Mbye's 2022 contract. Add that value to the cost of Peachey's contract and we haven't really saved any cap space.

 

[yeahcaz]

The stocks of Penrith defensive coach Cameron Ciraldo continue to rise. The Panthers have clearly been the best defensive side over the past two seasons. He can now sit back and wait for the right head coaching offer, which most rookie coaches don't usually get the chance to do.

They missed 59 tackles last night

And ? They kept a side who put 40 on manly the week before to 2 tries, 1 off a simple defensive lapse. They made the tackles they need to, who cares if you fall off a few in the middle

I can tell not one of their players has even thought about a miss tackle they made lol.

100% mate. Didn’t hear it spoken about post game either

 

[rihannafan1]

So is munster getting the flick from Melbourne ??

I would suggest no, he's not.

Don’t be to confident of that … Bellamy and the Storm are not happy campers at present , someone will be shown the door I reckon.


Apparently Bellamy was livid a few years ago when Bromwich had a little snort of coke.
So he would be really pissed a Smith and Munster.

Its funny how people say madge is too intense and yells at his players, etc
But Bellamy does it more so

Only difference is WT culture

Difference is Bellamy has set up an elite system that gets the best out of almost every player that plays there

Madge gave us the worst defensive structures we've ever had

Madge set up an elite system also.... they just played in a GF

You think Maguire is responsible for this Souths team playing in the finals? Is he also responsible for Wigan's average Superleague season this year too?

In the 7 years after Madge left wigan won 3 premierships under his former assistant coach. Wigan have been hit by injury this year, still played finals.

At south's read the link below about the GF 17 and see how often madges name is specifically mentioned.

Madge bought into the team:
Alex Johnson
Dane Gagai
Campbell Graham
Cody Walker
Adam Reynolds
Damien Cook
Cam Murray
Tom Burgess

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/09/28/1-17-souths-signings-the-gambles-bargains-and-local-lads-in-rabbitohs-rise/

The sad truth of Maguire's time here is that: players want to leave, players don't want to come and players don't buy into his coaching. His past success is something he'll always have but that has little relevance to Wests Tigers.

I also can't believe that you're giving him credit for Wigan's current position, a club he coached a decade ago. I guess we should blame our current position on Sheens then.

The truth is we have a core group of younger players that have bought in including The Ute , AD, Laurie, Seyfarth, Maumolo, Blore, Tuilagi, Twal,. What we are missing experienced leaders and an x factor, something I hope the new football committee is working on.

I was responding that Madge has set up successful systems at Wigan and Souths which has seen success even after he has left.

He's our coach - best to get on board and find the positives.

Nah, I'll think what I like and it'll help me get through it just fine. If I have to rest on past success I'd rather just rewatch 2005 and 2010.

Who is a better option that is available?

Who knows, what is availability these days and what sort of argument is that anyway? You'd honestly never know until they were hired and were in the job for a few years. I'm judging on what he's done so far. If a new person came in I'd judge them on what they achieved with us.

 

[Odessa]

Brent Read reporting woods to the dragons

Good

Manly done deal

 

[Russell]

The stocks of Penrith defensive coach Cameron Ciraldo continue to rise. The Panthers have clearly been the best defensive side over the past two seasons. He can now sit back and wait for the right head coaching offer, which most rookie coaches don't usually get the chance to do.

They missed 59 tackles last night

Yet defended their way to a grand final win. Their absolutely battered Souths with their defence all night long and slowed the ruck down perfectly to suit them. Line speed was incredible too

Easy to have line speed when you are off-side most of the game.

 

[clontarfkid]

Penrith have mastered the art of no risk footy...no risks = dominant possession coupled with pinpoint accurate kicking game,plus rushing flat defence thats always slitely offside and holding tackled player down for the max
They do it very well,but
About as entertaining to watch as WT...but a LOT more effective

 

[Russell]

Penrith have mastered the art of no risk footy...no risks = dominant possession coupled with pinpoint accurate kicking game,plus rushing flat defence thats always slitely offside and holding tackled player down for the max
They do it very well,but
About as entertaining to watch as WT...but a LOT more effective

Someone mentioned Kikau holding down for the whole game.

Sorry it was Capewell for mine - needed a crane to get him off most times.

AND not a word was spoken. Bout right eh! Mr V'Landys.

 

[Lee's fedora]

So with the incoming signing of Tyrone Peachy we can assume he will be playing that ball playing lock position which means Hastings to halfback and brooks to five eight correct?

 

[hsvjones]

So with the incoming signing of Tyrone Peachy we can assume he will be playing that ball playing lock position which means Hastings to halfback and brooks to five eight correct?

you would think thats the plan but until it is announced I don't believe it as given yet.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

So with the incoming signing of Tyrone Peachy we can assume he will be playing that ball playing lock position which means Hastings to halfback and brooks to five eight correct?

Can’t assume anything. Given how thin we are in the centre’s, he could easily slot in there