Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[barnsta]

Oh re-signed .. the - makes all the difference

Sorry about the grammer mistake was a touch excited by the news

 

[Harvey]


What a throwback!

I thought Lamar second guy on right would of taken off in first grade.

Everyone thought that aye...

Never happened.
?

Who are they all.
I only recognise the FOX.

In order,

Joel Edwards,
Josh Addo Carr,
Manaia Cherrington,
Ava Seumanufaagai,
Lamar Leovevave &
Watson Heleta.

Is that the first edition of the where are they now files?

 

[Demps]


What a throwback!

I thought Lamar second guy on right would of taken off in first grade.

Everyone thought that aye...

Never happened.
?

Who are they all.
I only recognise the FOX.

In order,

Joel Edwards,
Josh Addo Carr,
Manaia Cherrington,
Ava Seumanufaagai,
Lamar Leovevave &
Watson Heleta.

Is that the first edition of the where are they now files?

Lol mostly Q cup besides JAC (Bulldogs), Ava (Bulldogs) and Edwards (unknown)

 

[TheDaBoss]


What a throwback!

I thought Lamar second guy on right would of taken off in first grade.

Everyone thought that aye...

Never happened.
?

Who are they all.
I only recognise the FOX.

In order,

Joel Edwards,
Josh Addo Carr,
Manaia Cherrington,
Ava Seumanufaagai,
Lamar Leovevave &
Watson Heleta.

Is that the first edition of the where are they now files?

Lol mostly Q cup besides JAC (Bulldogs), Ava (Bulldogs) and Edwards (unknown)

Joel retired in 2019 after stints in england and France


What a throwback!

I thought Lamar second guy on right would of taken off in first grade.

Everyone thought that aye...

Never happened.
?

Who are they all.
I only recognise the FOX.

In order,

Joel Edwards,
Josh Addo Carr,
Manaia Cherrington,
Ava Seumanufaagai,
Lamar Leovevave &
Watson Heleta.

Is that the first edition of the where are they now files?

Lol mostly Q cup besides JAC (Bulldogs), Ava (Bulldogs) and Edwards (unknown)

Edwards retired in 2019 after stints in france and england

Thats via his linkeldn

 

[Demps]


What a throwback!

I thought Lamar second guy on right would of taken off in first grade.

Everyone thought that aye...

Never happened.
?

Who are they all.
I only recognise the FOX.

In order,

Joel Edwards,
Josh Addo Carr,
Manaia Cherrington,
Ava Seumanufaagai,
Lamar Leovevave &
Watson Heleta.

Is that the first edition of the where are they now files?

Lol mostly Q cup besides JAC (Bulldogs), Ava (Bulldogs) and Edwards (unknown)

Joel retired in 2019 after stints in england and France


What a throwback!

I thought Lamar second guy on right would of taken off in first grade.

Everyone thought that aye...

Never happened.
?

Who are they all.
I only recognise the FOX.

In order,

Joel Edwards,
Josh Addo Carr,
Manaia Cherrington,
Ava Seumanufaagai,
Lamar Leovevave &
Watson Heleta.

Is that the first edition of the where are they now files?

Lol mostly Q cup besides JAC (Bulldogs), Ava (Bulldogs) and Edwards (unknown)

Edwards retired in 2019 after stints in france and england

Thats via his linkeldn

NRL Legend.
??

 

[batboy]


What a throwback!

I thought Lamar second guy on right would of taken off in first grade.

Everyone thought that aye...

Never happened.
?

Who are they all.
I only recognise the FOX.

In order,

Joel Edwards,
Josh Addo Carr,
Manaia Cherrington,
Ava Seumanufaagai,
Lamar Leovevave &
Watson Heleta.

Is that the first edition of the where are they now files?

Lol mostly Q cup besides JAC (Bulldogs), Ava (Bulldogs) and Edwards (unknown)

Edward is with the Goannas isn't he Demps....
You should be all over that.

 

[Demps]


What a throwback!

I thought Lamar second guy on right would of taken off in first grade.

Everyone thought that aye...

Never happened.
?

Who are they all.
I only recognise the FOX.

In order,

Joel Edwards,
Josh Addo Carr,
Manaia Cherrington,
Ava Seumanufaagai,
Lamar Leovevave &
Watson Heleta.

Is that the first edition of the where are they now files?

Lol mostly Q cup besides JAC (Bulldogs), Ava (Bulldogs) and Edwards (unknown)

Edward is with the Goannas isn't he Demps....
You should be all over that.


Bit of digging...
Played there in 2021.

I don't follow the local comp that closely.
Always working.

Probably a good watch though with lots of former NRL players floating around.

 

[Demps]


What a team 😂

One from the archives.

 

[crazycat]

Can we please talk definition of depth. IMO It gets tossed around too much on here. For me a club has ‘good depth’ where it can replace proven first graders with other first grade talent. e.g. Teddy goes down, Joey Manu goes to FB and Aubo steps into centre (pre retirement).

A. Not many of our players are consistent FGers
B. Most of our back up players are fringies at best.

Let’s keep it real.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/33169/2022-depth-chart/29?_=1643579876258

I like your definition but I disagree.
Having proven first graders as "Depth" is a bad idea.
Because if they are proven first graders, they are on a high salary OR are taking unders for weird reasons.

We have 9ish million on a salary cap?
Many said we should hire Cotric who would be between 200k and 400k. 200k sure, but doubt that is happening. 400k is where the problems happen.

I forget if the minimum in the NRL now is 80k or 130k, but at a minimum you need 2.4m just to pay your entire team 80k.

You then have your halves pairing. In our case Brooks is on 900K (-80k above) and Hastings is on 500k (-80k above). 3.6M down already. Add our wingers who are Noffa (500k) and Ken M (450K) you get a total cap of 4.4m

Were half way through the cap, with bare minimum players and only 4 regular first graders.

Your example with Easts rocks. People like Gavin Cooper and Aubursson were great because they could add to the forward pack but fill in at center if needed.

400k on the sidelines is not good. Just like we had 700k Josh Reynolds and 600k Packer on the sidelines not good. Because if we give them 700k, it means were looking for 200k players in other positions.

400k is a proven first grader. Too expensive for depth. Means when someone is out too and our Junior laces up, they are on the bench and not blooded in first grade.

Cleary's Big 17 was a dumb idea. Not because it talked up the Big 17 but because Cleary signed a stack of Depth, not talent. We signed average, we got average or hopeless players.

An Average player will usually stay an average player. Sure Wayne Bennett can coach the best out of these, we cannot. A poor player though can at least play average and a great player raises the squad.

We need good players, players in the top 3 of their positions. I like Newcastle's attitude of hitting up high performing props. Tyson Frizzle will perform from good-fantastic, even on a good day he will outperform our average.

Good assessment, but I think this season could be a slight anomoly. With COVID raging in an unrestricted environment, it is possible that a club with a broader range of depths (lots of 5 or 4/10) could benefit over a club that is top heavy with stars ( lots of 8's and 2's).

That's an interesting proposition.

So lets look at the finalists:
Souths, they lost Mitchell Latrell, he is clearly an 8+/10 player. Their 2/10's grew to be 4/10's.
Penrith, ok they just have a superstar farm.
Easts, So many injuries. Joey Manu probably a 7+/10 Center. Still they made the Finals.
Manly seem to make the finals in spite of a stack of injuries.

How about Saints, they had depth. Did it help them? No.

You can loose your 8/10 players and still make it. What happens is your team trains with 8/10 and gets used to that level. Like how easts hired SBW and how Souths used LM in defensive training.

If a 2/10 gets injured, you can use their salary cap to recruit other players.

When you replace your 4/10 or 5/10 player with a Depth player who is also 4/10, how is your team getting better? How will you get 8/10 players on the field that actually win you games?

 

[bathursttiger1]

The Australian Electoral Commission released disclosures for the 2020-21 financial year.

Meriton Property Services gave $285,000 to the Liberal party, with some $200,000 going to the NSW Liberal party.

I wonder how much he donated to WT's.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]


What a team 😂

One from the archives.

That teams got 9th written all over it.

 

[Spartan117]

What a team 😂

One from the archives.

That teams got 9th written all over it.

I would settle for 9th this season 2022.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

What a team 😂

One from the archives.

That teams got 9th written all over it.

I would settle for 9th this season 2022.

It would be a massive over achievement. It would probably save Madge’s job. Though, I still don’t know how a coach survives 4 seasons at a club with no finals. I guess it shows how low the bar is at our club.

 

[Demps]

What a team ?

One from the archives.

That teams got 9th written all over it.

I would settle for 9th this season 2022.

It would be a massive over achievement. It would probably save Madge’s job. Though, I still don’t know how a coach survives 4 seasons at a club with no finals. I guess it shows how low the bar is at our club.

Same club that allows Brooks and Nofo to continue to stink it up with no consequence.

Lol, not that debate again.

If we lost Madge , we'd have to bring in Flanno and that would upset yas..
Or some one less cut out for the job.

 

[colinbh]

What a team ?

One from the archives.

That teams got 9th written all over it.

I would settle for 9th this season 2022.

It would be a massive over achievement. It would probably save Madge’s job. Though, I still don’t know how a coach survives 4 seasons at a club with no finals. I guess it shows how low the bar is at our club.

You seem to have a serious mental problem. The only cure that I can see is for you to follow some other team. It would help you and it would certainly help the real WT's fans.

 

[earl]

What a team ?

One from the archives.

That teams got 9th written all over it.

I would settle for 9th this season 2022.

It would be a massive over achievement. It would probably save Madge’s job. Though, I still don’t know how a coach survives 4 seasons at a club with no finals. I guess it shows how low the bar is at our club.

I think you answered your own question here. 9th is an over achievement now and if anything we are looking stronger this year than the last couple of years.

You need the cattle.

 

[TheDaBoss]

So what is making the 8 then?

A miracle?

 

[Newtown]

So what is making the 8 then?

A miracle?

It's hard work and dedication.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

What a team ?

One from the archives.

That teams got 9th written all over it.

I would settle for 9th this season 2022.

It would be a massive over achievement. It would probably save Madge’s job. Though, I still don’t know how a coach survives 4 seasons at a club with no finals. I guess it shows how low the bar is at our club.

I think you answered your own question here. 9th is an over achievement now **and if anything we are looking stronger this year than the last couple of years.**

You need the cattle.

Idk about that. Dare I call it wishful thinking. One of our best players is missing for at least 12 weeks and our only recruits are 2 SL stars, one unproven as an NRL player, the other untested, and Tyrone Peachy, who had no contract anywhere else. And before anyone wants to jump down my throat, let me balance this negativity out by saying I believe we are on track for a really good season in ‘23. If we can snare a classy centre, it would be the final piece of the puzzle that makes us serious top 8 contenders.

 

[batboy]

What a team ?

One from the archives.

That teams got 9th written all over it.

I would settle for 9th this season 2022.

It would be a massive over achievement. It would probably save Madge’s job. Though, I still don’t know how a coach survives 4 seasons at a club with no finals. I guess it shows how low the bar is at our club.

I think you answered your own question here. 9th is an over achievement now **and if anything we are looking stronger this year than the last couple of years.**

You need the cattle.

Idk about that. Dare I call it wishful thinking. One of our best players is missing for at least 12 weeks and our only recruits are 2 SL stars, one unproven as an NRL player, the other untested, and Tyrone Peachy, who had no contract anywhere else. And before anyone wants to jump down my throat, let me balance this negativity out by saying I believe we are on track for a really good season in ‘23. If we can snare a classy centre, it would be the final piece of the puzzle that makes us serious top 8 contenders.

Still need edge forwards....
Problem with a centre is - If the halves fire, Where's Doueihi come back to?