Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

If we don’t score more than 2 tries today it will again prove we have more attacking deficiencies than just the halves, so let’s wait and see.
 
The Chad said:
If we need a current example of how a team revolves around a player NOT wearing #7, look at Newcastle. Cogger would do just as good a job as Hastings in that team. The player is almost irrelevant. All the attack comes through Ponga.

Look at Melbourne. Munster runs that team from #6.

Illias is an 'organising half', but all the direction comes from Walker & Latrell. Illias has a job- don't mess it up.

Titans- Foran.

Bulldogs- Burton


There are nearly as many clubs run by the #6 as the #7. It's just how you set your systems up.

There is no reason Sullivan can't be a success at 7 while Fainu directs the team's attack.
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There's a big difference between organising and the attack going through a player. Cooper Cronk had 1 functioning arm and the Roosters did all they could to get him to play that grand final back in 2018? Why ... because even though he barely touched the ball or did anything with it on the rare occasions he did, he directed them around the park.

The attack goes through Ponga because he's electric with the ball in hands and a great ball-player at second receiver. Hastings runs the side though. Your organiser structures the moves you up and down the field by structuring the set and from that platform the guys like Ponga are able to thrive. Hastings can not touch the ball once in a set and play a huge role, that is the nature of being an organising half.

I agree that jersey number isn't so relevant and that wearing "6" doesn't mean you can't organise / wearing "7" means you organise, but it ultimately comes down to the actual players and their playing style.

Fainu's great with the ball in hand and as an attacking threat, but it's to be seen if he can direct a team around the park from goal-line to goal-line. Two very different roles.
 
The Chad said:
People acting like the only player that directs a team around the field wears a #7.

Watch the Manly junior games. Their #7 is irrelevant. Who is he? All the direction comes from #6. Fainu is the guy to move us around the football field. Sullivan will be the 'running half' I guess, if we need to label them. But in saying that, people are ONLY seeing the running. Hard to be the organiser in a Dragons team lead by Ben Hunt.
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Api will steer the ship!
 
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The Chad said:
If we need a current example of how a team revolves around a player NOT wearing #7, look at Newcastle. Cogger would do just as good a job as Hastings in that team. The player is almost irrelevant. All the attack comes through Ponga.

Look at Melbourne. Munster runs that team from #6.

Illias is an 'organising half', but all the direction comes from Walker & Latrell. Illias has a job- don't mess it up.

Titans- Foran.

Bulldogs- Burton


There are nearly as many clubs run by the #6 as the #7. It's just how you set your systems up.

There is no reason Sullivan can't be a success at 7 while Fainu directs the team's attack.
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No you have it wrong.
All those players run the attack.
The team though is run through the organising half.
Without the effort of the guys who do the boring work implementing the coaching plans and strategy, the Munsters and Pongas are far less effective.
 
weststigers said:
Where is all this Olam chat coming from?
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One of the papers reporting that he is out of favour with Storm and that if an offer was made to Storm to release him, they would consider it.

As long as his falling out with Storm has nothing to do with ongoing injuries, I would be on board with getting him over to us. Immediately would become our best centre next year.
 
tigermate said:
You wait for a player and keep making offers for the right type of player you need

Otherwise what’s the alternative ?

You sign a player for 4 years to play out of position and hope it works when it hasn’t worked for the last 12 years?

You can’t make a number 6 play controlling 7.

It like works for 1.5/ 5 games

Which is not enough to make the finals

And god no. Def not madden.

You bring in Sezer like they’re supposedly doing and then wait for another 7 to pop up.
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And we have been doing that - offers to Munster, Moses, Pearce and Johnson all knocked back. All the top halves are now locked up. We can't just sit on our hands and hope that a topline 7 becomes disgruntled where he is and by some miracle wants to play with the WT. Just bringing in Sezer doesn't solve our halves problem as we would still be short of a 6 and backups.
 
king_sirro said:
Steve, I have noticed you get very fixed on "reported" figures. Always take a few hundred thousand off anything the Tele reports IMO.

I'm not sure about the Sullivan deal, but the Fainu boys are on about half what you believe and I imagine the 2.2m quote by Buzz about Jayden is inflated too.

Dragons would be throwing in for the first year for a start.
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Same, a lot of the supporters on this forum seem overly fixated on Figures .. I do not get it at all., they also whinge that we cannot sign anyone then whinge and whine about the salary .. absolutely confuses the F out of me .. seems to be a lot of would be accountants that must just be jealous about what NRL players earn.. why worry when we have no control over it, it has no quantifiable effect on our enjoyment of the teams performance and as such it is not our problem .
 
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I think WT have done relatively well to secure two rising stars and a seasoned game manager for around the $1.2m mark. Might be less if St George is paying some of Sullivan's freight over the next year or two.

Need to now concentrate solely on positions 3-5.
 
LUPO said:
The 3 you mention were proven duds on double what Sullivan is reported to be earning. With WT supporters crucifying every young player signing, any wonder why we have trouble attracting players to the club. So with the halves out there, who do you suggest we should have signed and for how much?
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The whiners on this forum want Nathan Cleary signed on $200,000 season and as soon as he signs they will start bagging his defence , saying he is injury prone , is unproven in their eyes and has a suspect kicking game and then a few will start saying that they see him as a centre or a second rower .. I’ve read some really odd stuff on this thread over the last month or so and it’s starting to worry me ☹️🥺🧐
 
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