Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Needaname]

I understand your point but don’t totally agree
Whenever a new coach takes over at any club there’s always a different view of players leading to many being moved on or jumping ship of their own accord
I dare say sheens may still be a fan

Ok.
He went from playing 5/8 in every one of his junior rep games to being ushered in as a lock / prop off the bench in NSW cup / NRL.
Didn’t need to debut that year, especially when he hadn’t spent any time transitioned as a forward.
Same with Katoga.
That backfired didn’t it; he pushed for a release to get more first grade game time but yet was happy to play the same position at the dogs.
In a way, displaying an over desire to debut kids before their time. Affects their mentality and physicality but all so their expectation of where they see themselves positioned in the game.

A round 1 trial is fair enough then back to the grades for you but pushing for a debut before their time is problematic.

My thoughts on Galvin. Depends how he trials this week but I’d say he isn’t being talked about at all if we didn’t have Doueihi out with a knee injury.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Looks like the Dragons have caved and given Luc 900k 😂

 

[426Tlgerland]

Looks like the Dragons have caved and given Luc 900k 😂

Wow I think that is paying overs , $ 750 max he ain’t that good

 

[Mistymuzzle]

Also wanted to ask if you have heard anything on Tumeth? Heard he was close to heading off to Newcastle a few weeks ago but not heard anything since then.

Tumeth is leaving the club

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Wow I think that is paying overs , $ 750 max he ain’t that good

Imagine how much Fifita will command now.

 

[Needaname]

Looks like the Dragons have caved and given Luc 900k 😂

Saw that, wonder who misses out? And whether that is added to their cap.

 

[Needaname]

Tumeth is leaving the club

Why do we even bother with Balmain as one of our local rep teams? Not one player has been retained with talent from that side recently.
had we kept locals Conti and Nasser maybe so but otherwise what is the point?

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Tumeth is leaving the club

When ... now or end of season?

 

[Vicious]

On the minimum wage I assume they are both earning and considering how light on we are for depth on the back row, I don’t know why we would not be giving both Matamua and Tumeth a chance to see how they progress in 2024.
Both are local juniors who played for a dominant NSW u/19’s team in 2022 so there is obviously talent within them. Also not forgetting it takes many young forwards in particular a couple of years playing senior rugby league to really toughen up, mature and become the best version of themselves.

 

[Todd Packer]

"The Herald reports the deal is worth an estimated $3.7 million across three seasons, putting him among the club's highest-paid players."

Is there another Luciano Leilua? It can't be the one that walked on us and underperformed at the Cowboys

 

[Betterdays22]

The Herald reports the deal is worth an estimated $3.7 million across three seasons, putting him among the club's highest-paid players.

Is there another Luciano Leilua? It can't be the one that walked on us and underperformed at the Cowboys

I've seen Foxsports quote 2.7 and 2.3 in the same article. As usual, taken with the tiniest grain of salt.

 

[Needaname]

The Herald reports the deal is worth an estimated $3.7 million across three seasons, putting him among the club's highest-paid players.

Is there another Luciano Leilua? It can't be the one that walked on us and underperformed at the Cowboys

Woooo. Fark me Luciano is going to be the highest paid player in the game on 1.233 mill a season.

 

[Needaname]

I've seen Foxsports quote 2.7 and 2.3 in the same article. As usual, taken with the tiniest grain of salt.

You want a laugh?

As you mentioned the same article quoted two different figures.

Only the update factored in that Leulia had already been paid this season part of his contract by the cowboys so the remainder for the dragons this year is $500’000.
Hence 2.3. Foxsports have obviously updated the article.
So Cows kick in nothing and have probably paid already about $300,000 to Luciano from November leaving the dragons with the rest of the contract for the year.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

When ... now or end of season?

Wont be here before end of season

 

[weststigers]

I think they got overexcited when setting up the pathways and blew their load too early.
They continue to do so with TDS and now Galvin.
Killing it in the juniors means squat when it come to professionals. Making Australian Schoolboys is a reward for the work done in the juniors. It has no bearing on being a pro.
The club proudly boasted that our pathways were working as Matamua went from Matts to first grade in 2 and a 1/2 years or so. He clearly wasnt ready despite what Sheens and Pascoe were saying publically.
He is contracted here till the end of 25 and we are already talking about moving him on?

It's a fair comment.

People need to remember, these kids are not training full time or at least haven't been training full time for very long and have not played against men.

Only very few can handle the physical jump.

For those of us that played, it's a little bit like when you first realised that your body can't do what your brain told it to do. The difference being the young kid can still grow physically and ease into it. Their strength against other kids their age that don't train full time doesn't translate to the men's game until they physically develop.

TDS especially needs a year or two. I think people forget he is still 18. He's done well so far, but you can see he struggles physically after sustained defence.

I love some comments on here about these young guys "packing on muscle" in a pre-season to be ready for NRL. If it only took 3 or 4 months to put on 10kg of pure muscle, we'd all be jacked. Plenty of gym rats on here can verify. It's not that easy.

 

[Todd Packer]

I've seen Foxsports quote 2.7 and 2.3 in the same article. As usual, taken with the tiniest grain of salt.

Remember when journo's checked their facts before publishing?
Those were the days.
Now the motto is "invent as outrageous a story as you can and get as many clicks as you can".

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Wont be here before end of season

Thought it would be strange if it was now a) not to even give him a chance given his underage representative record and b) given he went on the camp last week to NZ.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Saw that, wonder who misses out? And whether that is added to their cap.

If Luc is going to the Dragons on $900k, I wonder what the future holds for Su'a off-contract this year.

There were some reports Dolphins are keen (given the Bennett relationship) but I think I read somewhere he & Benji are mates.

I would gladly take Su'a for our backrow as JB could easily become a middle/edge/centre utility off the bench.

 

[851]

Remember when journo's checked their facts before publishing?
Those were the days.
Now the motto is "invent as outrageous a story as you can and get as many clicks as you can".

It has been explained why there are 2 figures, he signed for $900k a year for 3 years, at $2.7m, but minus what cows have paid already since November 1, it becomes $2.3 million over 3 years

 

[Tucker]

900k for Leilua…😂😂😂😂
That is disgraceful overpayment by St George.
😆😆😆 Jesus wept…