Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Mistymuzzle]

Also wanted to ask if you have heard anything on Tumeth? Heard he was close to heading off to Newcastle a few weeks ago but not heard anything since then.

Tumeth is leaving the club

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Wow I think that is paying overs , $ 750 max he ain’t that good

Imagine how much Fifita will command now.

 

[Needaname]

Looks like the Dragons have caved and given Luc 900k 😂

Saw that, wonder who misses out? And whether that is added to their cap.

 

[Needaname]

Tumeth is leaving the club

Why do we even bother with Balmain as one of our local rep teams? Not one player has been retained with talent from that side recently.
had we kept locals Conti and Nasser maybe so but otherwise what is the point?

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Tumeth is leaving the club

When ... now or end of season?

 

[Vicious]

On the minimum wage I assume they are both earning and considering how light on we are for depth on the back row, I don’t know why we would not be giving both Matamua and Tumeth a chance to see how they progress in 2024.
Both are local juniors who played for a dominant NSW u/19’s team in 2022 so there is obviously talent within them. Also not forgetting it takes many young forwards in particular a couple of years playing senior rugby league to really toughen up, mature and become the best version of themselves.

 

[Todd Packer]

"The Herald reports the deal is worth an estimated $3.7 million across three seasons, putting him among the club's highest-paid players."

Is there another Luciano Leilua? It can't be the one that walked on us and underperformed at the Cowboys

 

[Wearyfan22]

The Herald reports the deal is worth an estimated $3.7 million across three seasons, putting him among the club's highest-paid players.

Is there another Luciano Leilua? It can't be the one that walked on us and underperformed at the Cowboys

I've seen Foxsports quote 2.7 and 2.3 in the same article. As usual, taken with the tiniest grain of salt.

 

[Needaname]

The Herald reports the deal is worth an estimated $3.7 million across three seasons, putting him among the club's highest-paid players.

Is there another Luciano Leilua? It can't be the one that walked on us and underperformed at the Cowboys

Woooo. Fark me Luciano is going to be the highest paid player in the game on 1.233 mill a season.

 

[Needaname]

I've seen Foxsports quote 2.7 and 2.3 in the same article. As usual, taken with the tiniest grain of salt.

You want a laugh?

As you mentioned the same article quoted two different figures.

Only the update factored in that Leulia had already been paid this season part of his contract by the cowboys so the remainder for the dragons this year is $500’000.
Hence 2.3. Foxsports have obviously updated the article.
So Cows kick in nothing and have probably paid already about $300,000 to Luciano from November leaving the dragons with the rest of the contract for the year.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

When ... now or end of season?

Wont be here before end of season

 

[weststigers]

I think they got overexcited when setting up the pathways and blew their load too early.
They continue to do so with TDS and now Galvin.
Killing it in the juniors means squat when it come to professionals. Making Australian Schoolboys is a reward for the work done in the juniors. It has no bearing on being a pro.
The club proudly boasted that our pathways were working as Matamua went from Matts to first grade in 2 and a 1/2 years or so. He clearly wasnt ready despite what Sheens and Pascoe were saying publically.
He is contracted here till the end of 25 and we are already talking about moving him on?

It's a fair comment.

People need to remember, these kids are not training full time or at least haven't been training full time for very long and have not played against men.

Only very few can handle the physical jump.

For those of us that played, it's a little bit like when you first realised that your body can't do what your brain told it to do. The difference being the young kid can still grow physically and ease into it. Their strength against other kids their age that don't train full time doesn't translate to the men's game until they physically develop.

TDS especially needs a year or two. I think people forget he is still 18. He's done well so far, but you can see he struggles physically after sustained defence.

I love some comments on here about these young guys "packing on muscle" in a pre-season to be ready for NRL. If it only took 3 or 4 months to put on 10kg of pure muscle, we'd all be jacked. Plenty of gym rats on here can verify. It's not that easy.

 

[Todd Packer]

I've seen Foxsports quote 2.7 and 2.3 in the same article. As usual, taken with the tiniest grain of salt.

Remember when journo's checked their facts before publishing?
Those were the days.
Now the motto is "invent as outrageous a story as you can and get as many clicks as you can".

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Wont be here before end of season

Thought it would be strange if it was now a) not to even give him a chance given his underage representative record and b) given he went on the camp last week to NZ.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Saw that, wonder who misses out? And whether that is added to their cap.

If Luc is going to the Dragons on $900k, I wonder what the future holds for Su'a off-contract this year.

There were some reports Dolphins are keen (given the Bennett relationship) but I think I read somewhere he & Benji are mates.

I would gladly take Su'a for our backrow as JB could easily become a middle/edge/centre utility off the bench.

 

[851]

Remember when journo's checked their facts before publishing?
Those were the days.
Now the motto is "invent as outrageous a story as you can and get as many clicks as you can".

It has been explained why there are 2 figures, he signed for $900k a year for 3 years, at $2.7m, but minus what cows have paid already since November 1, it becomes $2.3 million over 3 years

 

[Tucker]

900k for Leilua…😂😂😂😂
That is disgraceful overpayment by St George.
😆😆😆 Jesus wept…

 

[Needaname]

It's a fair comment.

People need to remember, these kids are not training full time or at least haven't been training full time for very long and have not played against men.

Only very few can handle the physical jump.

For those of us that played, it's a little bit like when you first realised that your body can't do what your brain told it to do. The difference being the young kid can still grow physically and ease into it. Their strength against other kids their age that don't train full time doesn't translate to the men's game until they physically develop.

TDS especially needs a year or two. I think people forget he is still 18. He's done well so far, but you can see he struggles physically after sustained defence.

I love some comments on here about these young guys "packing on muscle" in a pre-season to be ready for NRL. If it only took 3 or 4 months to put on 10kg of pure muscle, we'd all be jacked. Plenty of gym rats on here can verify. It's not that easy.

Absolutely. And this has been a problem for a long time at our club. Because the guys in front of the kids have been next to rubbish.
Realistically we have genuine leaders and position holders in our team in prop (Klemmer, Stef), second row, ( Papali’i and Bateman) in the backline in Olam and to a lesser extent Naden. (Though despite a breakout season for Penrith years back he hasn’t reclaimed that form or status. And finally in the halves in Sezer this year and Luai next year (and who knows maybe both will be a partnership next year.)

Anyway it means that we don’t have to rush a young half, hooker, prop, backrower or edge player.

Despite me shitting on our lack of depth below. It does fill me with confidence that we have the cap balanced a bit better at the top end of the squad.

 

[Vicious]

900k for Leilua…😂😂😂😂
That is disgraceful overpayment by St George.
😆😆😆 Jesus wept…

Shane Flanagan has made his intentions quite clear as he has by far the biggest team in the NRL and will obviously try to over power and bash opposing teams, starting with us on Saturday night.
Besides Hunt, Flanagan and Liddle who I wouldn’t call midgets, the rest of the team are basically all over 100kgs. If the rumour of moving Lomax to fullback eventuates and Tuipolutu comes in on the wing, it will mean their whole 1-5 will be over 100kgs along with their entire forward pack aside from Liddle.
Who knows whether or not it will work, but every team they play will know they have been in a hard physical contest, particularly over the first 40mins.

 

[Needaname]

Shane Flanagan has made his intentions quite clear as he has by far the biggest team in the NRL and will obviously try to over power and bash opposing teams, starting with us on Saturday night.
Besides Hunt, Flanagan and Liddle who I wouldn’t call midgets, the rest of the team are basically all over 100kgs. If the rumour of moving Lomax to fullback eventuates it will mean their whole 1-5 will be over 100kgs along with their entire forward pack aside from Liddle.
Who knows whether or not it will work, but every team they play will know they have been in a hard physical contest, particularly over the first 40mins.

It’s a fair point.
Looking across the warriors side last year it was of a similar formation.

You could be on the money re Lomax, Sloan although a talent just doesn’t seem to have it at this stage to hold the fullback position.
Tuipolotu 102kg will take his place on the flank.