Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tom Shines]

Fisher Harris signing with Warriors from 2025. Wow

Massive for the Warriors ..

 

[Tito Santana]

Not to mention that superleague no longer pays well. If it did, Sezer wouldn't be here for 250 - 300k a season.

That’s still some sweet coin to play footy. I’d take it.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

Well if Wests Tigers put it to him this way.
Stay here and you will not play NRL for the next 4 seasons. As WT do not want to have 500k per season hanging over their Salary Cap the option is to give reason for WT to be able to remove the 500k per season from their Salary Cap and give JS a payout so he’s financially better off moving forward.
Missing training like Nofa did would be a solution as it has proven to be a good enough reason to terminate a contract.

I personally don't see Benji as the type of coach to give up on a player 3 months into a 4 year deal regardless of what we think of Bud as a player. Bud will probably spend the next month or so in cup & hopefully Benji is relaying to him the standards about being a first grade player. Galvin & Fainu are both super young & Sezer will be 33 by the end of the year so there probably will be another chance for Bud this season but will he take it is the question.

 

[Vicious]

I personally don't see Benji as the type of coach to give up on a player 3 months into a 4 year deal regardless of what we think of Bud as a player. Bud will probably spend the next month or so in cup & hopefully Benji is relaying to him the standards about being a first grade player. Galvin & Fainu are both super young & Sezer will be 33 by the end of the year so there probably will be another chance for Bud this season but will he take it is the question.

I agree with what you are saying, but we simply cannot retain our best players such as Stefano, upgrade others such as Galvin, have a red hot crack at signing a couple more quality players to strengthen up our team and still pay the rumoured 500-550k per season for a halve who is highly likely to okay NSW Cup for the remainder of his contract.
If he was on much less money it would be nice to keep him, but he’s not.

 

[Vicious]

Telling a player that would be complete bullshit and unprofessional. What are they going to say? “So mate, regardless how well you play in KOE, you’ll never see first grade again at our club”. As if.

So you can see him playing regular NRL once Luai arrives ?
Benji clearly rates Galvin and Fainu ahead of him and it’s very hard to argue with that with what Sullivan has shown so far.

 

[Lauren]

Who Penrith want to replace Fisher-Harris when he heads to the Warriors

By Michael Chammas and Billie Eder​

Updated April 17, 2024 — 1.58pmfirst published at 12.43pm

Wests Tigers prop Stefano Utoikamanu sits atop a Penrith Panthers hit list as they ponder their next move following the decision to release enforcer James Fisher-Harris to the Warriors at the end of this season.

Who Penrith want to replace Fisher-Harris when he heads to the Warriors

James Fisher-Harris asked to be released from the final two years of his contract with the Panthers and has signed a four-year deal with the Warriors.

www.smh.com.au

Here we go again....

 

[Nonotmeagain]

Say training starts at 8am when he's due in by 7 lmao

Why would he deliberately miss training?

Unfortunately the misrepresentation would come out in the court case that would ensue when he wanted his contract money.

 

[Nonotmeagain]

It’s simple, if someone plays reserve grade for 4 seasons their residual value is not good, where if they head to the UK now they could potentially be on a good contract for the next 7-8 years possibly longer.
Something has to give as Wests Tigers cannot afford to have the contract t money being paid for Sullivan wasting away in reserve grade.

They have, he will be and he may not want to go to England. Contracts are like that.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Who Penrith want to replace Fisher-Harris when he heads to the Warriors

By Michael Chammas and Billie Eder​

Updated April 17, 2024 — 1.58pmfirst published at 12.43pm

Wests Tigers prop Stefano Utoikamanu sits atop a Penrith Panthers hit list as they ponder their next move following the decision to release enforcer James Fisher-Harris to the Warriors at the end of this season.

Who Penrith want to replace Fisher-Harris when he heads to the Warriors

James Fisher-Harris asked to be released from the final two years of his contract with the Panthers and has signed a four-year deal with the Warriors.

www.smh.com.au

Stephan is on many teams hit list.... including ours....

 

[rugbygoated]

Who Penrith want to replace Fisher-Harris when he heads to the Warriors

By Michael Chammas and Billie Eder​

Updated April 17, 2024 — 1.58pmfirst published at 12.43pm

Wests Tigers prop Stefano Utoikamanu sits atop a Penrith Panthers hit list as they ponder their next move following the decision to release enforcer James Fisher-Harris to the Warriors at the end of this season.

Who Penrith want to replace Fisher-Harris when he heads to the Warriors

James Fisher-Harris asked to be released from the final two years of his contract with the Panthers and has signed a four-year deal with the Warriors.

www.smh.com.au

FFS. Imo our most consistent player across all our games. Hasn't had a bad game or even average game yet this year. It would be a great buy for them

 

[Nonotmeagain]

Well if Wests Tigers put it to him this way.
Stay here and you will not play NRL for the next 4 seasons. As WT do not want to have 500k per season hanging over their Salary Cap the option is to give reason for WT to be able to remove the 500k per season from their Salary Cap and give JS a payout so he’s financially better off moving forward.
Missing training like Nofa did would be a solution as it has proven to be a good enough reason to terminate a contract.

You can't say he'll never play first grade ( let me know if you can see the future).His pay out would need to be close to his contract value as he is quite young so assuming he goes for $750-$800k that has to be carried in the salary cap in the year/s it's paid. Noffa was gone and he knew - this guy might believe in himself a bit more.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

FFS. Imo our most consistent player across all our games. Hasn't had a bad game or even average game yet this year. It would be a great buy for them

And us.... a great buy for us....

 

[bptiger 0]

Might sound crazy, but I love a good hot take. The Panthers will fall back into the pack next year. JFH and Luai are huge losses.

Not a hope , the two young blokes , smith and Henry will fill the void left by fisher Harris , Luai will not be missed , they got 2-3 players who will fill his spot

 

[Vicious]

Not a hope , the two young blokes , smith and Henry will fill the void left by fisher Harris , Luai will not be missed , they got 2-3 players who will fill his spot

💯
If Wests Tigers don’t show they can score points and win games real soon, big Stef will be gone and who could blame him.
One step forward and 10 steps back with this club.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Can we blame him? Is he a bad guy if leaves for greener pastures????

 

[Vicious]

Can we blame him? Is he a bad guy if leaves for greener pastures????

I blame terrible recruitment and retention.
Spending far too much money on certain players and not knowing which players need to be prioritised with big money contracts.

 

[balmain boy]

I agree with what you are saying, but we simply cannot retain our best players such as Stefano, upgrade others such as Galvin, have a red hot crack at signing a couple more quality players to strengthen up our team and still pay the rumoured 500-550k per season for a halve who is highly likely to okay NSW Cup for the remainder of his contract.
If he was on much less money it would be nice to keep him, but he’s not.

He's not on as much as reported in the telecrap

Are previous recruitment team were bad, but do you really think they'd offer an injury prone reserve grade half a $2million deal? It's not that much, and i'm pretty sure there are options in the contract too.

Clubs never announce "we've signed XX player on a 4 year deal but there are conditions that we can offload them earlier at no expense if we want to". It makes it sound like the club doesn't rate the player and that they're not wanted, sometimes even before they've played a single game. These clauses and options only come out down the track if/when necessary. See Stefano's origin clause, supposedly Schuster weight clauses etc. They don't announce these things up front, just that it's a X year contract.

 

[Nonotmeagain]

Can we blame him? Is he a bad guy if leaves for greener pastures????

NO we cannot

 

[Nonotmeagain]

He's not on as much as reported in the telecrap

Are previous recruitment team were bad, but do you really think they'd offer an injury prone reserve grade half a $2million deal? It's not that much, and i'm pretty sure there are options in the contract too.

Clubs never announce "we've signed XX player on a 4 year deal but there are conditions that we can offload them earlier at no expense if we want to". It makes it sound like the club doesn't rate the player and that they're not wanted, sometimes even before they've played a single game. These clauses and options only come out down the track if/when necessary. See Stefano's origin clause, supposedly Schuster weight clauses etc. They don't announce these things up front, just that it's a X year contract.

Are previous recruitment team were bad, but do you really think they'd offer an injury prone reserve grade half a $2million deal? It's not that much, and i'm pretty sure there are options in the contract too - yes they would and we'll never know what's in the contract.

 

[Vicious]

He's not on as much as reported in the telecrap

Are previous recruitment team were bad, but do you really think they'd offer an injury prone reserve grade half a $2million deal? It's not that much, and i'm pretty sure there are options in the contract too.

Clubs never announce "we've signed XX player on a 4 year deal but there are conditions that we can offload them earlier at no expense if we want to". It makes it sound like the club doesn't rate the player and that they're not wanted, sometimes even before they've played a single game. These clauses and options only come out down the track if/when necessary. See Stefano's origin clause, supposedly Schuster weight clauses etc. They don't announce these things up front, just that it's a X year contract.

I hope you are right.
The only logical reason why we didn’t at least attempt to sign Zac Lomax has to be due to Salary Cap constraints, otherwise why are we doing nothing about strengthening up our weak backline when a big, strong, fast and skilful player who is also one of the best goal kickers in the competition becomes available?
Not to mention he’s previously mentioned he would be interested in playing for Wets Tigers the team he followed growing up.