Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

weststigers said:
A few players in the game seem to get lost amongst the hype and scrutiny and it affects their game.

I think he's struggling with that. Not sure big $$ on him is worth the risk along with moving him down to Sydney.

Back row is prority.
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Back row is a priority yes but so is outside backs still, we have enough money and spots open for 2026 to do both

In a struggling team he got shuffled around it's no surprise his form dipped a bit, but for the right price he is certainly worth the risk. Big body, can do yardage, quick enough to score off half chances.

Benji as a player who's been through similar could be the perfect coach for him. Just a thought anyway.
 
JC99 said:
Staggs set to re-sign with Broncos... time to have a look at Cobbo.

I know he's had a bit of inconsistency but him being shuffled positions hasn't helped. He's a fantastic strike outside back who's an origin rep and still very young. Get him on the phone Richo
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Hard to prise him away from banana land other teams up there will be looking at him.
 
A young indigenous kid from a Queensland Aboriginal community would most probably be a huge risk.

I think Selwyn Cobbo would struggle big time so far away from home, under the spotlight and scrutiny he would be under being in Sydney, and especially at the Wests Tigers with the vultures from the media constantly circling just waiting for some sort of a misstep.

There is a slight possibility that it may work under the mentoring of someone like Greg Inglis but I just see the risk overall as being much too great.
 
liltiger said:
He's one of those guys every team needs just a middle defensive workhorse, doesn't bust the line but takes a hit up to give the lads a break, doesn't rattle bones on tackles but makes his tackles, isn't the quickest but hardly misses a tackle. He is just super reliable, he won't win you a game but I can't really remember him costing us one either. Every team needs a Twal to fill a gap in their line somewhere.
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I've said this before but people still don't seem to have grasped it so I'll repeat it: saying there's "no rush" with Galvin or we can wait till mid-season or whatever misses an absolutely fundamental point. That is that the Tigers have one massive bit of leverage in this situation: the ability to upgrade Galvin's contract in 2025 and 2026. As things stand, he's going to play the next two seasons for relative peanuts - which leaves him massively exposed if he gets a bad injury, say.

The Tigers can fix that for him and no other club can - but only if they act now. If they do the half-arsed, "well let's see how you go" BS that most people on here seem to prefer they're basically giving up the only advantage they have in this situation. Let's say we get to June and Galvin has been tearing up, and he club suggests opening negotiations at that stage. You think Galvin isn't going to say "yeahnah I reckon I'll let this ride for a couple of months"?

Has anyone given any thought to why well run clubs don't have their good young players come up for open bidding? It's because they back their ability to identify talent and lock it in early, using the advantage of being able to offer a life-changing contract during the period where they are the only club in a position to do so. You don't see the Panthers, Roosters or Storm saying "yeah we think he's going to be a superstar but whatever, let it ride and we'll see if we can make the best bid on the open market". It's madness.

Realistically, none of us is qualified to know for sure whether Galvin is going to be a superstar or whether the chances are 40%, 60% or 90%. But the club has to make that call, and then act decisively on the basis of whatever it is. If they think Galvin is the one, and they're lucky, they might be able to get him to sign for what will prove to be unders this time round (though to the people who think 650k a year is going to do it - congratulations on coming up with an offer that gets you laughed out of the door. I can just about see 800k for 25 and 26 then a mil for the three years after that doing it). If they don't, or they think Fainu is going to be even better and we can't keep both, trade Galvin now before we lose him for nothing.

But for goodness' sake don't do nothing. There's one window to be decicive and do something that benefits the club, and it's more or less right now.
 
2041 said:
I've said this before but people still don't seem to have grasped it so I'll repeat it: saying there's "no rush" with Galvin or we can wait till mid-season or whatever misses an absolutely fundamental point. That is that the Tigers have one massive bit of leverage in this situation: the ability to upgrade Galvin's contract in 2025 and 2026. As things stand, he's going to play the next two seasons for relative peanuts - which leaves him massively exposed if he gets a bad injury, say.
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I think you are missing the point a little. What you outline above is absolutely on the money - but it doesn't have to be resolved tomorrow. Richo is well aware that we are in the box seat and if he has not already had meetings with Moses and Galvin he has flagged that he will be. He is not an inexperienced negotiator so I am happy to let it pan out. It is not like we have the clowns of yesteryear doing our bidding.

However, if Galvin and Moses decide that they want to go to market we have other eggs in our basket.
 
2041 said:
I've said this before but people still don't seem to have grasped it so I'll repeat it: saying there's "no rush" with Galvin or we can wait till mid-season or whatever misses an absolutely fundamental point. That is that the Tigers have one massive bit of leverage in this situation: the ability to upgrade Galvin's contract in 2025 and 2026. As things stand, he's going to play the next two seasons for relative peanuts - which leaves him massively exposed if he gets a bad injury, say.

The Tigers can fix that for him and no other club can - but only if they act now. If they do the half-arsed, "well let's see how you go" BS that most people on here seem to prefer they're basically giving up the only advantage they have in this situation. Let's say we get to June and Galvin has been tearing up, and he club suggests opening negotiations at that stage. You think Galvin isn't going to say "yeahnah I reckon I'll let this ride for a couple of months"?

Has anyone given any thought to why well run clubs don't have their good young players come up for open bidding? It's because they back their ability to identify talent and lock it in early, using the advantage of being able to offer a life-changing contract during the period where they are the only club in a position to do so. You don't see the Panthers, Roosters or Storm saying "yeah we think he's going to be a superstar but whatever, let it ride and we'll see if we can make the best bid on the open market". It's madness.

Realistically, none of us is qualified to know for sure whether Galvin is going to be a superstar or whether the chances are 40%, 60% or 90%. But the club has to make that call, and then act decisively on the basis of whatever it is. If they think Galvin is the one, and they're lucky, they might be able to get him to sign for what will prove to be unders this time round (though to the people who think 650k a year is going to do it - congratulations on coming up with an offer that gets you laughed out of the door. I can just about see 800k for 25 and 26 then a mil for the three years after that doing it). If they don't, or they think Fainu is going to be even better and we can't keep both, trade Galvin now before we lose him for nothing.

But for goodness' sake don't do nothing. There's one window to be decicive and do something that benefits the club, and it's more or less right now.
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I'm pretty sure the club is not sitting on their hands and doing nothing. I think the wait and see approach was only a discussion point on here.
 
2041 said:
I've said this before but people still don't seem to have grasped it so I'll repeat it: saying there's "no rush" with Galvin or we can wait till mid-season or whatever misses an absolutely fundamental point. That is that the Tigers have one massive bit of leverage in this situation: the ability to upgrade Galvin's contract in 2025 and 2026. As things stand, he's going to play the next two seasons for relative peanuts - which leaves him massively exposed if he gets a bad injury, say.

The Tigers can fix that for him and no other club can - but only if they act now. If they do the half-arsed, "well let's see how you go" BS that most people on here seem to prefer they're basically giving up the only advantage they have in this situation. Let's say we get to June and Galvin has been tearing up, and he club suggests opening negotiations at that stage. You think Galvin isn't going to say "yeahnah I reckon I'll let this ride for a couple of months"?

Has anyone given any thought to why well run clubs don't have their good young players come up for open bidding? It's because they back their ability to identify talent and lock it in early, using the advantage of being able to offer a life-changing contract during the period where they are the only club in a position to do so. You don't see the Panthers, Roosters or Storm saying "yeah we think he's going to be a superstar but whatever, let it ride and we'll see if we can make the best bid on the open market". It's madness.

Realistically, none of us is qualified to know for sure whether Galvin is going to be a superstar or whether the chances are 40%, 60% or 90%. But the club has to make that call, and then act decisively on the basis of whatever it is. If they think Galvin is the one, and they're lucky, they might be able to get him to sign for what will prove to be unders this time round (though to the people who think 650k a year is going to do it - congratulations on coming up with an offer that gets you laughed out of the door. I can just about see 800k for 25 and 26 then a mil for the three years after that doing it). If they don't, or they think Fainu is going to be even better and we can't keep both, trade Galvin now before we lose him for nothing.

But for goodness' sake don't do nothing. There's one window to be decicive and do something that benefits the club, and it's more or less right now.
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Realistically, I see Moses again agitating for his player's market value or release each year into the future if it is above the agreement, regardless of what WT may agree to upgrade wise this and/or next season.
 
Jolls said:
I think you are missing the point a little. What you outline above is absolutely on the money - but it doesn't have to be resolved tomorrow. Richo is well aware that we are in the box seat and if he has not already had meetings with Moses and Galvin he has flagged that he will be. He is not an inexperienced negotiator so I am happy to let it pan out. It is not like we have the clowns of yesteryear doing our bidding.

However, if Galvin and Moses decide that they want to go to market we have other eggs in our basket.
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It's a tricky one. You can see how the current situation with Dylan Brown may lead to inflated expectations and potentially a hole at Parramatta (a club he grew up loving).

If he's been performing well in pre-season, it may be better for us to move sooner rather than later.

But if the ask gets unreasonable, then we tap the breaks and maybe start to give Latu some time.
 
Jolls said:
I think you are missing the point a little. What you outline above is absolutely on the money - but it doesn't have to be resolved tomorrow. Richo is well aware that we are in the box seat and if he has not already had meetings with Moses and Galvin he has flagged that he will be. He is not an inexperienced negotiator so I am happy to let it pan out. It is not like we have the clowns of yesteryear doing our bidding.

However, if Galvin and Moses decide that they want to go to market we have other eggs in our basket.
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Yeah I certainly have some faith that Richardson knows what he's doing. I was really addressing my comments to the people on here who think waiting till mid-season or offering a ludicrously lowball number is the way to go. The only point I'd maybe clarify is that while I agree it doesn't have to be done tomorrow I do think the window is really between now and the start of the season. I'll freely admit that I'm impatient because I want it done, but equally I think a lot of the negative comments on here are more about preparing for disappointment than a realistic assessment of the situation.
 
2041 said:
Yeah I certainly have some faith that Richardson knows what he's doing. I was really addressing my comments to the people on here who think waiting till mid-season or offering a ludicrously lowball number is the way to go. The only point I'd maybe clarify is that while I agree it doesn't have to be done tomorrow I do think the window is really between now and the start of the season. I'll freely admit that I'm impatient because I want it done, but equally I think a lot of the negative comments on here are more about preparing for disappointment than a realistic assessment of the situation.
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I think we can be confident that Richo has this high up on his agenda. The downside of the closed book approach to recruiting is that we don't know where it is at. I would also like know sooner rather than later, but as we are the ones in the box seat I'm prepared to let Richo and Benji get it done behind closed doors.
 
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2041 said:
I've said this before but people still don't seem to have grasped it so I'll repeat it: saying there's "no rush" with Galvin or we can wait till mid-season or whatever misses an absolutely fundamental point. That is that the Tigers have one massive bit of leverage in this situation: the ability to upgrade Galvin's contract in 2025 and 2026. As things stand, he's going to play the next two seasons for relative peanuts - which leaves him massively exposed if he gets a bad injury, say.

The Tigers can fix that for him and no other club can - but only if they act now. If they do the half-arsed, "well let's see how you go" BS that most people on here seem to prefer they're basically giving up the only advantage they have in this situation. Let's say we get to June and Galvin has been tearing up, and he club suggests opening negotiations at that stage. You think Galvin isn't going to say "yeahnah I reckon I'll let this ride for a couple of months"?

Has anyone given any thought to why well run clubs don't have their good young players come up for open bidding? It's because they back their ability to identify talent and lock it in early, using the advantage of being able to offer a life-changing contract during the period where they are the only club in a position to do so. You don't see the Panthers, Roosters or Storm saying "yeah we think he's going to be a superstar but whatever, let it ride and we'll see if we can make the best bid on the open market". It's madness.

Realistically, none of us is qualified to know for sure whether Galvin is going to be a superstar or whether the chances are 40%, 60% or 90%. But the club has to make that call, and then act decisively on the basis of whatever it is. If they think Galvin is the one, and they're lucky, they might be able to get him to sign for what will prove to be unders this time round (though to the people who think 650k a year is going to do it - congratulations on coming up with an offer that gets you laughed out of the door. I can just about see 800k for 25 and 26 then a mil for the three years after that doing it). If they don't, or they think Fainu is going to be even better and we can't keep both, trade Galvin now before we lose him for nothing.

But for goodness' sake don't do nothing. There's one window to be decicive and do something that benefits the club, and it's more or less right now.
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You say we have a big advantage because we can potentially upgrade him…Yes your right,but we are talking about a salary cap that thas and can be abused . Any club can throw a ton of cash indirectly at Galvin. We all know this stuff has and is happening.

My point is…if you think we hold all the trumps because we have him under contract, sadly it doesn’t work that way. Okay we might technically have him till October 2026, but a guy like Moses can dictate terms through sheer weight of players in his stable
 
Technically we have Galvin for 2025 and 2026. I expect Isaac Moses thinks he will be able to get Galvin out of the club after this season if Galvin signs elsewhere after 1 Nov 2025.

Waiting a few rounds/months to watch Galvin would be beneficial, but it will be just as beneficial to see how Latu goes as well. If Latu is firing we will have some leverage over Galvin/Moses.

If Galvin does sign elsewhere for 2026 I would be seeking a player in return to release him from his contract for 2026, rather than have him play a lame duck season with us.
 
Galvin will most definitely have second year syndrome . It is inevitable . Teams have now had a year to game plan and work out his weaknesses and try to exploit them .
It’s not about having it or not having it , it’s about knowing it’s going to happen and overcoming it in the shortest amount of time .
It took Bula for example almost 16 rounds before he shook it . Hopefully with Galvin it’s only a few .
I will say this , a Galvin out of form sure does strengthen our bargaining power , especially if we are still winning in spite of him .
 
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