Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tiger Stripes]

Why would we retain Doueihi after he signed Issac Moses as an agent?

Seriously, why?

He watched how that wrecked our club. How Galvin walked and it's a massive Middle finger at the tigers.

Massive insult to the club, massive insult to Benji and a bunch of people who backed him when he was injured.


Get him off the roster.

But Doueihi said didn't sign.
OR did he just shake hands?
Ducks and Drakes at the moment. All aimed to up his price. A natural step for all players.
If he can maintain his last effort at 13 I'm all for retaining him. Worth more than Hunt and Bird IMO.
Versatile, kicks goals.

 

[Tom Shines]

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But Doueihi said didn't sign.
OR did he just shake hands?
Ducks and Drakes at the moment. All aimed to up his price. A natural step for all players.
If he can maintain his last effort at 13 I'm all for retaining him. Worth more than Hunt and Bird IMO.
Versatile, kicks goals.

Surely his situation with Moses is just a formality? Is Moses shopping him around working on his behalf..and not going to be appointed as his Manager ?

 

[liltiger]

I'm assuming Douhi is trying to negotiate a deal for himself with Richo and would have told Isaac, if you can get me a better deal elsewhere once iv spoken to the Tigers I'll give you your cut, incase things arnt sorted and he does end up leaving.

 

[Tiger Stripes]

It’s funny how things work out. At the start of the season we all saw the centre position as a real glaring weakness. Six months latter it’s probably our strongest position, with May,Star,AD and Big Mac.

As for AD , unless we can find a reliable goal kicker who demands a starting role in the team, you have to re sign him and probably as a 13. Of course if they jag a elite 13 that could change everything but I would be worried if Api was our only kicker

Makasini kicks goals, just not enough.
But with time to practice I'm sure he would improve. The pressure to kick goals with all eyes watching him is not a problem, just needs more coaching 'n practice.

 

[cktiger]

This is not the only thing ol mate was saying though … he said there was a racial element involved … every team has clicks…. Much more serious and frankly hard to believe if it’s based on race

Why?
I've never been in any team where everyone is great mates... if their friendship comes from hanging out with other Islanders who share the same culture then so what?
Same with the Lebanese guys.
Not so much the whiteys 🤣

 

[Tom Shines]

Why?
I've never been in any team where everyone is great mates... if their friendship comes from hanging out with other Islanders who share the same culture then so what?
Same with the Lebanese guys.
Not so much the whiteys 🤣

This is a club that gets bashed in the media when a player goes to watch his mate play for another team , or who they are having dinner with … you think the media isn’t making a big deal over that issue in the world we currently live, if true ?

 

[Odessa]

From Fifita at the time.

There are cliques though, just look at which players are always together. Galvin always with Tallyn, Doeuihi and Twal together often, May/Fainus/Pole etc. Not rocket science.

It may be the same at every other club, but it's there.

May and Galvin hung out alot May in an interview said Galvin is a good friend and he will miss him

 

[Telltails]

When is the need to know too much too much - about now I'd say.

 

[Hbom]

I reckon AD has a number in his head that closely resembles the contract he was on when he was starting for us. He took less, much less whilst going through rehab and we’ve given him a chance to bounce back. I’d say he is back to his earlier self and has even improved on in toughness areas etc. as I said anything less than 400k is an insult to him given how much we are using him on the field.
What did we sign him on originally for, was it about $600k a season?

Except he has had 3 all injuries. No one will pay 600k on that risk.

 

[Tiger_claws]

Non will be travelling to England at least this time. The internationals are local to the Oceania region.

That is a bonus but its still not ideal as the 8 week mandatory rest will hurt our prep. Hopefully the boys opt to return a little earlier than the full 8 weeks off

 

[Sully]

May and Galvin hung out alot May in an interview said Galvin is a good friend and he will miss him

I hope in two weeks time May does not miss Galvin and drives him hard into the turf.

 

[Needaname]

I'm assuming Douhi is trying to negotiate a deal for himself with Richo and would have told Isaac, if you can get me a better deal elsewhere once iv spoken to the Tigers I'll give you your cut, incase things arnt sorted and he does end up leaving.

Yes, very hard to check the market and options when in season and representing yourself without my much free time away from the regular season games.

 

[Needaname]

Except he has had 3 all injuries. No one will pay 600k on that risk.

Is he injury prone or was it just bad luck?
How has Teddy gone since he was struggling with his Knees with us? Not comparing the two just saying it’s a hard line if your ruling someone out due to their past.
Put it this way, do you expect Metcalf to receive similar response when he returns or will he be scoring a larger contract then what he was initially on.
Plus caps gone up; not saying I’d pay it, I think a fair number for him is $450k.

 

[Vicious]

From Fifita at the time.

There are cliques though, just look at which players are always together. Galvin always with Tallyn, Doeuihi and Twal together often, May/Fainus/Pole etc. Not rocket science.

It may be the same at every other club, but it's there.

I hope in two weeks time May does not miss Galvin and drives him hard into the turf.

it will be another opportunity for Luai to step up and walk the walk.
We can talk about his leadership and win at all costs attitude, but our upcoming games against the Panthers and the Bullfogs are 2 where he needs to show his value and dominate.

 

[Odessa]

Is he injury prone or was it just bad luck?
How has Teddy gone since he was struggling with his Knees with us? Not comparing the two just saying it’s a hard line if your ruling someone out due to their past.
Put it this way, do you expect Metcalf to receive similar response when he returns or will he be scoring a larger contract then what he was initially on.
Plus caps gone up; not saying I’d pay it, I think a fair number for him is $450k.

AD fixes so many problems in a squad playing many positions and he is a very good player

Only 30 positions and Adam equals potentially 5 players I think his true value is around 550k if you had 3 versatile players like him you could potentially have a top 22 and 8 rookies in the top 30

And could go to market and pay extra to get players here

 

[Needaname]

AD fixes so many problems in a squad playing many positions and he is a very good player

Only 30 positions and Adam equals potentially 5 players I think his true value is around 550k if you had 3 versatile players like him you could potentially have a top 22 and 8 rookies in the top 30

And could go to market and pay extra to get players here

Bit high for mine. I think his price at an established club is 400k-450k I think we’d have to pay 450k-500k.
Hopefully loyalty works out as I agree with you his versatility is undeniable.

 

[Lestronge]

This is not the only thing ol mate was saying though … he said there was a racial element involved … every team has clicks…. Much more serious and frankly hard to believe if it’s based on race

Especially at our club , considering how multicultural it is . And always has been . My guess is he was referencing the Sheens love affair with woodsy and Groat over himself . Which was fair enough really , as Fifita was dynamic and powerful , but had a low motor , and gave a way a lot of penalties . The game was also still transitioning into Massive unit packs , and power game tactics , of which Sheens had been left behind re. That tactic .
Groat was the “prodigy” of the 3 , exposed to nrl too early , got smashed a few times , and never really recovered .
I find it ridiculous an islander would claim a team based in the shire would been more accepting of racial diversity than a team from out west . Sheens had his favourites . He always did . For better and worse . Look at Fitzhenry, , McDonnell , Groat etc. whilst he was good at finding diamonds in the rough , k think he felt himself too much , and his ego used to deny him the ability to see what was obvious to most … Fifita was better than all of them . Even his brother was worth the long term investment , much like Sione was at the moment. No one had the patience back then , and we paid for it ..

 

[jirskyr]

A couple of things stood out for me AGAIN yesterday within our playing group ...

1 lack of footy IQ
2 lack of intense players

We make poor, at times dumb, decisions or players losing concentration, whether that is opting for short dropouts with a big wind at your back, not getting to dummyhalf, not knowing who to pass it to, stupid penalties. This is a regular thing with our club and it's amongst our leaders too.

We seem to have players who like to cruise along, more passive in nature, lack aggression & line speed. We lack players who go at it 100 miles an hour or have a bit of killer instinct. Taylan May comes in & straight away you know he brings it.

What are people's thoughts ...

Is this a coaching thing? Is it the standards that Benji sets from pre-season onwards?
Is it a poor mix of player personalities? Too many quiet, passive followers?

Roster. The starting pack on the weekend was Terrell-Hope-Twal, Sukkar-Bird, Doueihi. Bench forwards were Seyfarth, Pole and Api. That just won't cut it for regular go-forward, intensity or power. Also Pole has had a bad run with handling and tackling. There's no threat in the backrow outside of Samuela who is borderline injured most weeks.

 

[weststigerman]

Just like any work or social environment?

Possibly. When one leaves and the other follows you start to have a problem.

 

[coivtny]

Roster. The starting pack on the weekend was Terrell-Hope-Twal, Sukkar-Bird, Doueihi. Bench forwards were Seyfarth, Pole and Api. That just won't cut it for regular go-forward, intensity or power. Also Pole has had a bad run with handling and tackling. There's no threat in the backrow outside of Samuela who is borderline injured most weeks.

Could not agree more. Our backs are top 8 level if playing behind a good pack, buy they're not. I reckon we need 3 forward additions at quality first grade level plus KPP who has already signed.