Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[das tigers]

I'd like KPP to go see Roger Fabri. A yard faster hitting a gap and he'd be a real weapon for us.

 

[KCtiger]

Yeah fine but to consider him 'international' class, is somewhat laughable. I just listed the bench players for the other team and they are much better then KPP. We are in trouble.

May is the closest thing we have to an international.

Id love to have some Tongan forwards they are going amazing right now

 

[KCtiger]

Please........and the below names don't include the bench players, and we don't have one of them. And IMO they are all much better than KPP, so yes, half baked but you can disagree though.

Tonga
Addin Fonua-Blake
Siliva Havili
Stefano Utoikamanu
Siua Wong
Eliesa Katoa
Jason Taumalolo

Samoa
Josh Papalii
Jazz Tevaga
Payne Haas
Jeremiah Nanai
Simi Sasagi
Junior Paulo

Kangaroos
Pat Carrigan
Harry Grant
Tino Fa’asuamaleaui
Angus Crichton
Hudson Young
Isaah Yeo

Kiwis
James Fisher-Harris
Jeremy Marshall-King
Moses Leota
Briton Nikora
Isaiah Papali'i
Joe Tapine

We have a better hooker then all but Aus

Better backrow pairing then Samoa and Tonga

Props Terrell is better then most named while Twal and Pole are also good players

 

[KCtiger]

I think actually most teams do if you include Australia as well as the Pacifc sides. Just about every team but ours does if you extend that to Origin or injured players that would likely have been picked in the Rep sides.

If we wanna look at our forward pack we have

Api - Fiji
Samuela - Fiji
Sione -Fiji

Twal - Lebanon
Doueihi - Lebanon

Being an international player is so overrated in the current landscape of things

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

I'd like KPP to go see Roger Fabri. A yard faster hitting a gap and he'd be a real weapon for us.

Extra speed would help any player but he's not that slow, just like Doueihi takes a while to wind up, remember seeing a break this season for the knights took the play 50 mtrs downfield, was surprised when he broke the line.

 

[gregjm87]

If we wanna look at our forward pack we have

Api - Fiji
Samuela - Fiji
Sione -Fiji

Twal - Lebanon
Doueihi - Lebanon

Being an international player is so overrated in the current landscape of things

It is when you are labelling the players from minnow countries As internationals. As much as he was using the term "international player" and using the current series to highlight them I think top tier player could be used in its place and the current internationals show just how many are players are better than anything we currently have.

I think Chunks argument falls a little flat comparing KPP with so many middle forwards when he is obviously an edge. Id rate him a better edge than Finefuiaki who started for Tonga. But as far as where our middles stand only May comes close to being a top tier player. Our next best (debatable who that is) wouldn't be in the top 50 middles.

 

[Lestronge]

Papallii, yes, much better. Sasagi, probably not but he has outperformed KPP this year.

Tevaga and Havili, no but given they were picked as hookers, then yes I think they're probably much better hookers than KPP but of course we've never seen him play there.

lol whatever bro…. They’re not as good , but I have to be right all the time so I’ll quantify in a way that makes me right again ….. yawn ! They’re not as good . Simple . That’s the end of .
It’s not up for debate . He just signed a new contract which stipulated his market value . Which means dudes who do this for a living valued him as such . Not some dude on a tigers forum who I’ve never seen enter a conversation without it ending up some self congratulatory back slapping episode .

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

It is when you are labelling the players from minnow countries As internationals. As much as he was using the term "international player" and using the current series to highlight them I think top tier player could be used in its place and the current internationals show just how many are players are better than anything we currently have.

I think Chunks argument falls a little flat comparing KPP with so many middle forwards when he is obviously an edge. Id rate him a better edge than Finefuiaki who started for Tonga. But as far as where our middles stand only May comes close to being a top tier player. Our next best (debatable who that is) wouldn't be in the top 50 middles.

Twal is no superstar, but I thought he had a solid season, lot on here don't rate him at all but he's useful when not carrying injury as he was in previous seasons, does his job.

 

[gregjm87]

Twal is no superstar, but I thought he had a solid season, lot on here don't rate him at all but he's useful when not carrying injury as he was in previous seasons, does his job.

Yeah, completely agree with this assessment. He isn't trash by any means. He is a reliable consistent first grader that probably gets a bench spot at any team in the comp. The problem isnt him at all, it is he is arguably our 2nd best front rower when nearly every other team has 2 or 3 better.

 

[bptiger 0]

I agree with your summation, but he’s not a prop or a 13

Move samual to prop , he is what we need

 

[gregjm87]

lol whatever bro…. They’re not as good , but I have to be right all the time so I’ll quantify in a way that makes me right again ….. yawn ! They’re not as good . Simple . That’s the end of .
It’s not up for debate . He just signed a new contract which stipulated his market value . Which means dudes who do this for a living valued him as such . Not some dude on a tigers forum who I’ve never seen enter a conversation without it ending up some self congratulatory back slapping episode .

You realise I wasn't the one making the initial claim, I was simply agreeing with some else. Not sure how that makes it self congratulatory.
You are the one who chose to compare him to a couple of hookers, I simply thought that wasn't a fair comparison. Just as I think it is wrong for Chunk to rattle off a list of middles who are considered better than him when he isn't a middle.

 

[lathami]

Twal is no superstar, but I thought he had a solid season, lot on here don't rate him at all but he's useful when not carrying injury as he was in previous seasons, does his job.

Yes he’s pretty good but as mentioned previously his defence is the problem l. Stats wise he has a high efficiency but stats don’t tell the whole truth. He often stands back in the line and doesn’t move up with the line. They run at him get a quick play of the ball then with the others that moved up retreating, this causes a roll-on.

 

[teddy23]

Keon’s management asking for $900k….

Souths very tight with the cap, still haven’t officially offered anything.

No brainer imo

 

[KCtiger]

It is when you are labelling the players from minnow countries As internationals. As much as he was using the term "international player" and using the current series to highlight them I think top tier player could be used in its place and the current internationals show just how many are players are better than anything we currently have.

I think Chunks argument falls a little flat comparing KPP with so many middle forwards when he is obviously an edge. Id rate him a better edge than Finefuiaki who started for Tonga. But as far as where our middles stand only May comes close to being a top tier player. Our next best (debatable who that is) wouldn't be in the top 50 middles.

I agree with the middles thing 100% we most definitely need another elite middle

I was just pointing out that overall Chunks argument was silly

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Yeah, completely agree with this assessment. He isn't trash by any means. He is a reliable consistent first grader that probably gets a bench spot at any team in the comp. The problem isnt him at all, it is he is arguably our 2nd best front rower when nearly every other team has 2 or 3 better.

If we pick up another young prop that was mentioned on here earlier today there's going to be a lot of competition for spots next season.

There's a good chance that our pack is going to be lot better than previous seasons and it's about time, they need to become a force if we want to keep improving.

 

[Vicious]

Yeah, completely agree with this assessment. He isn't trash by any means. He is a reliable consistent first grader that probably gets a bench spot at any team in the comp. The problem isnt him at all, it is he is arguably our 2nd best front rower when nearly every other team has 2 or 3 better.

I think one thing that nearly all Wests Tigers agree on is we are happy with Terrell May and wouldn’t swap him for too many other middles, albeit we would like him on reduced minutes to maximise his impact.
It’s more 50/50 with Twal. 50% of our supporters including myself like him and believe he provides good value for the 400k contract he is on, while the other 50% don’t rate him and want him gone.
Our fans are also divided on the quality of Fonua Pole and Sione Fainu.
My opinion is they are both above average NRL middles with the capacity to improve a fair bit over the next couple of seasons.
This means that approximately 50% of our fan base believe we have 4 very acceptable NRL middles.
Obviously another good quality middle would be great, but it’s not as if we have no ability within the middle forwards we already have.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Yes he’s pretty good but as mentioned previously his defence is the problem l. Stats wise he has a high efficiency but stats don’t tell the whole truth. He often stands back in the line and doesn’t move up with the line. They run at him get a quick play of the ball then with the others that moved up retreating, this causes a roll-on.

Could this come down to being left on the field too long, we have seen the bench rotation look head scratching at times.

 

[tigahhh]

Keon’s management asking for $900k….

Souths very tight with the cap, still haven’t officially offered anything.

No brainer imo

keaon & may would be a deadly combo

 

[gregjm87]

I agree with the middles thing 100% we most definitely need another elite middle

I was just pointing out that overall Chunks argument was silly

Yeah fair enough. I think his argument was fair but poorly presented.

 

[Vicious]

Keon’s management asking for $900k….

Souths very tight with the cap, still haven’t officially offered anything.

No brainer imo

I don’t think we would get him for 900k, but would be pleasantly surprised if we do.
It’s a big contract, but for a player who has high quality and would add experience toughness and mobility, it would be a risk in our favour.