Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

While it may well pan out this way we need to be cogniscant of the stated bigger picture. If we step back for a minute and look at the plan and the signings the forgone conclusion that AD will start at 7 is a little shaky.
  • Luai was recruited to be our 7.
  • Galvingate blew up the plan mid season.
  • Latu F is a 6.
  • AD's performances at 6 have been pretty average.
  • Injuries, combined with a lack of depth in halves forced a reshuffle for the best interests of the team.
  • AD played two games as a half in the season - with a few bit parts thrown in. As a 7 he doesn't create much; however, he plays both sides of the field and provided Luai wtih a bit of width - which was beneficial to his game.
  • ADs general kicking game is below average. He lacks control; however, as a plus he can kick long and on occasions can launch a good, but uncontrolled, floater. His kick meters are better than Latu's and significantly less than Madden's.
Now lets look at Luai as a 7 when he was at the Riff. He performed well behind a good back that provided him with time and space. The key element though was Yeo playing as a link to get him a little wider. Of course there were a number of additional sweep options etc that were used but the thing to be mindful of is that Yeo at 13 and AD as a 7 play similar roles.

Personally I think that ADs performances at 7 have sealed his fate. He has shown that he can play the running link and as a result of having less decisions to make his defence in and around the middle has much more shoulder to it - ie the arm grabbing decreases significantly.

So, looking at it objectively:
  • Luai is still the long term plan at 7 (unless anyone has heard differently).
  • If Luai is the long term 7 why disrupt the season by starting him as the 6 for the first few weeks?
  • As options to replace the injured Latu at 6 we have AD, Madden and Mason with NRL experience and Andrews as a long shot, although it will depend on what he shows over the off season.
  • Potential NRL ready ball palying 13s, unless we recruit one, are AD and Bird.
We all know that getting to the finals is as much about talent as it is about depth. Depth is also more that players who can play the same postion in reggies - it is about playing the same style of play in the depth postions that allow the next man up to execute in the same manner. What makes sense then, based on the stated the bigger picture, and from an overall development perspective is:
  • Luai starts at 7 and plays there throughout the season as per the long term plan.
  • Latu starts at 6 post recovery from shoulder surgery.
  • Madden is fist drop halves replacement - experienced at 6 and 7, has a good kicking game and defends well. He starts the season at 6 and then drops back to Cup to develop Andrews.
  • AD to 13 with Bird as first drop replacement. A a ball playing 13 to replace Bird in 27 is developed/recruited.
This approach, in my opinion, is a closer fit to where Benji looks to be taking the club, but more importantly sets the playing framework in stone from day 1 of preseason. We don't start the season with a plan to chop and change - we start the season how we intend to end it with players in the role they were recruited to execute.

I know common sense, succession planning and depth through mirrored playing styles are not the Tiger's way, but neither is playing finals footy. So perhaps we should start doing what the good teams do instead of selecting players for postions based on our hearts.
I know Luai was promised the 7 position; but has predominately, in recent times, been a 6.
We now have Madden who is a specialist 7 with a respected kicking game. Why make him a temporary 6?
Luai for the sake of the WT must remain as a 6.
Latu is too inexperienced to be burdened with the 6 or 7 jerseys at the moment. Needs more time in KOE to regain his confidence, experience, tackling skills; And then force his way into NRL side by form.
AD at 13 is my choice also.
 
Thanks Sheensy.

I think the Luai at 7 project is over. He has played better for the WT with more space at 6 and when Latu or AD are there inside.

i think the left edge of Luai, Samuela and May is a certainty everyone being fit. Having May there really unlocked Samuela and Luai Combination. Hopefully the right side with addition of KPP can be effective as well.

Bring on 2026!!
The right hand side willl definitely be much stronger defensively . Hopefully we sort out the middle particularly under fatigue
 
There are few more than Gould that have crossovers - Anasta agent and Fox, Matty Johns and Gordon Tallis part owners of NRL team and Fox, Paul Gallen sharks board and 9, Greg Alexander panthers board and Fox. The NRL will have their hands full keeping a check on them and trying to muzzle agents in the media.

As always when it comes to the NRL talk is cheap,action and reality never brings equality to our sport.I hope one day to be proven wrong.
 
Thanks Sheensy.

I think the Luai at 7 project is over. He has played better for the WT with more space at 6 and when Latu or AD are there inside.

i think the left edge of Luai, Samuela and May is a certainty everyone being fit. Having May there really unlocked Samuela and Luai Combination. Hopefully the right side with addition of KPP can be effective as well.

Bring on 2026!!
So Ben Gardiner also has no idea playing him at 7 for Samoa?

You hit the nail on the head he plays better at 7 and at 6 when he is provided more space. We didn't provide that with the pack we had and it was clear that his early time at 7 suffered through a combination of that and Galvin overplaying his hand.

So let's say that you are correct and Luai has a 6 on his back instead of 7. What does it change from what I posted? The only way he is provided more space as a 6, is if the 7 slides and plays both sides of the paddock or we have a ball playing 13 that provides width for the 6 ad 7.

Look, I get that you don't agree with AD at 13. But I haven't heard any reasoning from you apart from he played two good games at 7 last season.

I'm happy to debate the subject - but resorting to petty name calling is childish.
 
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I know Luai was promised the 7 position; but has predominately, in recent times, been a 6.
We now have Madden who is a specialist 7 with a respected kicking game. Why make him a temporary 6?
Luai for the sake of the WT must remain as a 6.
Latu is too inexperienced to be burdened with the 6 or 7 jerseys at the moment. Needs more time in KOE to regain his confidence, experience, tackling skills; And then force his way into NRL side by form.
AD at 13 is my choice also.
I would not be phased at all with Luai at 6 and Madden at 7. I am not sure the Luai at 7 ship has sailed yet though and I expect Benji to give it another crack.

My preference, as opposed to how I think Benji to play it, would be for Luai to play 6. However, he was recruited as a 7, is playing 7 for Samoa and I haven't heard anything from the club that suggest he isn't going to be the first choice 7. Benji's narrative last seasonwas he was playing where it was best for the team at the time. With Latu injured and no depth I think it was a band aid fix.

I'll be over the moon if I have read the tea laves incorrectly and he is the six, but if we do go down that road - who is the genuine 7 in our Top 30, besides Madden, who I think most agree has been recruited as depth.

I simply don't believe AD is an NRL level 7. Can he fill in - sure. Week in, week out - no.
 
While it may well pan out this way we need to be cogniscant of the stated bigger picture. If we step back for a minute and look at the plan and the signings the forgone conclusion that AD will start at 7 is a little shaky.
  • Luai was recruited to be our 7.
  • Galvingate blew up the plan mid season.
  • Latu F is a 6.
  • AD's performances at 6 have been pretty average.
  • Injuries, combined with a lack of depth in halves forced a reshuffle for the best interests of the team.
  • AD played two games as a half in the season - with a few bit parts thrown in. As a 7 he doesn't create much; however, he plays both sides of the field and provided Luai wtih a bit of width - which was beneficial to his game.
  • ADs general kicking game is below average. He lacks control; however, as a plus he can kick long and on occasions can launch a good, but uncontrolled, floater. His kick meters are better than Latu's and significantly less than Madden's.
Now lets look at Luai as a 7 when he was at the Riff. He performed well behind a good back that provided him with time and space. The key element though was Yeo playing as a link to get him a little wider. Of course there were a number of additional sweep options etc that were used but the thing to be mindful of is that Yeo at 13 and AD as a 7 play similar roles.

Personally I think that ADs performances at 7 have sealed his fate. He has shown that he can play the running link and as a result of having less decisions to make his defence in and around the middle has much more shoulder to it - ie the arm grabbing decreases significantly.

So, looking at it objectively:
  • Luai is still the long term plan at 7 (unless anyone has heard differently).
  • If Luai is the long term 7 why disrupt the season by starting him as the 6 for the first few weeks?
  • As options to replace the injured Latu at 6 we have AD, Madden and Mason with NRL experience and Andrews as a long shot, although it will depend on what he shows over the off season.
  • Potential NRL ready ball palying 13s, unless we recruit one, are AD and Bird.
We all know that getting to the finals is as much about talent as it is about depth. Depth is also more that players who can play the same postion in reggies - it is about playing the same style of play in the depth postions that allow the next man up to execute in the same manner. What makes sense then, based on the stated the bigger picture, and from an overall development perspective is:
  • Luai starts at 7 and plays there throughout the season as per the long term plan.
  • Latu starts at 6 post recovery from shoulder surgery.
  • Madden is fist drop halves replacement - experienced at 6 and 7, has a good kicking game and defends well. He starts the season at 6 and then drops back to Cup to develop Andrews.
  • AD to 13 with Bird as first drop replacement. A a ball playing 13 to replace Bird in 27 is developed/recruited.
This approach, in my opinion, is a closer fit to where Benji looks to be taking the club, but more importantly sets the playing framework in stone from day 1 of preseason. We don't start the season with a plan to chop and change - we start the season how we intend to end it with players in the role they were recruited to execute.

I know common sense, succession planning and depth through mirrored playing styles are not the Tiger's way, but neither is playing finals footy. So perhaps we should start doing what the good teams do instead of selecting players for postions based on our hearts.
I think we will see Adam start the season at 7, you don't Jolls and that's OK the whole forum is probably divided on this subject but when it comes down to it, they are all just individual opinions.

Right or wrong we won't know for sure until we get a glimpse in the trials to see Benji's plan for the next season and just hope whatever he goes with works.
 

The NRL is set to threaten potential salary-cap penalties against any club attempting to publicly court rival players before they become a free agent, in a shake up to the game's anti-tampering laws.

In what looms as a significant change to the NRL's contracting rules, clubs and their officials will be banned from making comment about pursuing players not yet on the market.

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The changes come after a year of contract drama, headlined by Lachlan Galvin's mid-season move from Wests Tigers to Canterbury with 17 months left on his original contract.

Under current NRL rules, players and their agents are not able to negotiate with rival clubs until the final season of their contract starts on November 1 each year.

But it has become apparent clubs have at times moved to signal their interest in players via the media well before then.


Phil Gould's roles as Bulldogs boss and media commentator sparked concern in the Galvin transfer. (Dave Hunt/AAP PHOTOS)'s roles as Bulldogs boss and media commentator sparked concern in the Galvin transfer. (Dave Hunt/AAP PHOTOS)

Phil Gould's roles as Bulldogs boss and media commentator sparked concern in the Galvin transfer. (Dave Hunt/AAP PHOTOS)
In turn, there is a belief this can influence players to not re-sign with their current clubs early, knowing interest from several parties could ramp up a bidding war.

Beyond the threat of salary cap sanctions, it is understood the NRL will be able to fine or even deregister club officials who flaunt the new rule
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Canterbury general manager Phil Gould was accused of using his position in the media to publicly court Galvin this year, before the Tigers gave him permission to look elsewhere.

As far back as last August Gould predicted Galvin would "earn more money out of rugby league than any other player in history", labelling him "the best teenage footballer" he'd ever seen.

Gould later claimed it was "untenable" for Galvin to stay at the Tigers after knocking back an extension at the club, before the young half was eventually released to join Canterbury.

The Bulldogs supremo had always maintained a public position of having not yet spoken to Galvin, but his comments still raised the eyebrows of other clubs.

That matter prompted a push for tougher rules around the issue, which are now expected to come into existence this summer.


Payne Haas is another player whose contractual future has cast a spotlight on transfer laws. (Lukas Coch/AAP PHOTOS)

Payne Haas is another player whose contractual future has cast a spotlight on transfer laws. (Lukas Coch/AAP PHOTOS)
It's understood the changes to the rules have been undertaken in conjunction with the NRL and players' union, as part of a commitment to review anti-tampering laws in the last collective bargaining agreement.

The Galvin situation is far from the only time when officials have been accused of making a public play for a big-name player before they can legally open negotiations on November 1.



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Several clubs this season made no secret of their desire to land Payne Haas for 2027, despite the Brisbane prop only becoming a free agent last weekend.

Under the new rules, this would also no longer be allowed.

Haas is yet to re-sign with Brisbane, but is not expected to be lured out of Queensland given his family situation in the area.

The game's other anti-tampering rules will continue to apply, including rival clubs not being able to negotiate with a player's agent until the final year of their contract.

Clubs are also unable to approach a rival team to enquire about their interest in a player being moved on to them, without seeking the player's permission first.
Can't really see how this can be policed really. How does the NRL prove what is tampering and what is just analysis as part of their jobs?
 
So Ben Gardiner also has no idea playing him at 7 for Samoa?

You hit the nail on the head he plays better at 7 and at 6 when he is provided more space. We didn't provide that with the pack we had and it was clear that his early time at 7 suffered through a combination of that and Galvin overplaying his hand.

So let's say that you are correct and Luai has a 6 on his back instead of 7. What does it change from what I posted? The only way he is provided more space as a 6, is if the 7 slides and plays both sides of the paddock or we have a ball playing 13 that provides width for the 6 ad 7.

Look, I get that you don't agree with AD at 13. But I haven't heard any reasoning from you apart from he played two good games at 7 last season.

I'm happy to debate the subject - but resorting to petty name calling is childish.
I see where you’re coming from Jollsy, but I think the assumption that Luai was recruited as a pure 7 is a bit overstated. Yes, he’s played 7 for Samoa, but international setups often make do with what they have, not necessarily what suits the player best. At club level, his strengths have always been as a running 6—creativity, unpredictability, and playing off-the-cuff. Forcing him into a dominant organising half role could blunt what makes him elite. As long as Luai is given space it does not matter what number he wears.

My preference if everyone is fit, develop internally a ball playing 13 (I think Sione could do this), have AD 7, Luai 6 and if fit Latu at 14.

My arguments for:

AD at 7, best the team looked all year
He is and experienced player/leader and respected within the group
Long high kicking game
Strong runner of the football
Massive contributor in all our wins
Defence was outstanding in 2025 and played wherever asked, wing, centre, half and lock
Combination had a good and developing combination with Romey (Madden/Laui would take time)
Would need to tally the attack points, but we were scoring more than enough points to win games of footy
Again Combination and we want to be fast out of the blocks in 2026, and a stable combination should assist
And WT did not win another game without him when he got touched up by Tauamolo

And Madden will be an adequate backup if called upon at 7. But long term and injury free Latu is the man but he needs to show it consistently.

Who knows Javon Andrews may be a good pick up long term. Its good to have options.
 
I love AD but he is not a long term 7 and playing him at 7 and Latu off the Bench only hinders both of their developments in their long term positions

As for our best games being with Doueihi at 7 it was a Dogs game we were so hyped for we were never gonna lose and an easy win vs a terrible manly team
 
I would not be phased at all with Luai at 6 and Madden at 7. I am not sure the Luai at 7 ship has sailed yet though and I expect Benji to give it another crack.

My preference, as opposed to how I think Benji to play it, would be for Luai to play 6. However, he was recruited as a 7, is playing 7 for Samoa and I haven't heard anything from the club that suggest he isn't going to be the first choice 7. Benji's narrative last seasonwas he was playing where it was best for the team at the time. With Latu injured and no depth I think it was a band aid fix.

I'll be over the moon if I have read the tea laves incorrectly and he is the six, but if we do go down that road - who is the genuine 7 in our Top 30, besides Madden, who I think most agree has been recruited as depth.

I simply don't believe AD is an NRL level 7. Can he fill in - sure. Week in, week out - no.
Isnt part of the team composition issues the reality we have to fit Doueihi in somewhere as we have little to no other options for both tqctical and goal kicking?
 
I literally have answered this already . Like I said some dudes on here , just regurgitate the same things over and over .

Sorry, I must of missed it. You said he's better the a couple of international hookers.

I haven't seen where you have said he is a better player then someone from the other four international packs and their reserves.

He's going to make our team better but going on his stats and performances not by too much....he may improve thought, I really hope so.
 
Yup - I'd like another hooker. There was least a couple of decent backup options that IMO we should have gone for - now no longer available.

Proper back ups - ie ones that are happy to play cup but can provide some value filling in when needed.

Hope, while he seems like a decent and hard working guy, just doesn't cut it.
Haywood won't be very far away from Cup at all.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a run in Cup round 1.
 
Haywood won't be very far away from Cup at all.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a run in Cup round 1.
Only if he absolutely smashes it in pre-season and the trials.

Otherwise I would like the club to let our juniors develop in Flegg until continued performance justifies a promotion. That's Attard, Andrews, Haywood, Godinet, Taupau-Moors - those who are still 19 or bottom-age Flegg. If they go beast mode in the trials, then playing Cup is warranted.
 

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