Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Rock Hopper Steve]

1 - Moses is a Parra Junior
2 - Cleary pulled his Contract

He never had a chance to prove any loyalty.

If I remember right, he left Parra when he wasn't wanted there, odd some guys head back after been shown the door you would think they would dislike that club with a vengeance.

Don't like to dredge up the past but if we could have retained him and Teddy makes you wonder just how much better we could have been with them in the spine, would they have been an attraction for other players to come over to us.

Still the club would have been under control of the witch doctors holding us back.

 

[area52]

Great post, can't disagree with anything you've said.

It poses the question; what is the Wests Tigers strategy to win the hearts of kids in South West Sydney?

We are already 25 years behind.

My nephew lives 10km from Campbelltown and he was very close to following his other uncle's footsteps and following the Broncos. The Tigers have not been to his school once and he's about to start year 5; I find that insane.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the Magpies vs. Balmain divide is still the core issue here. I don’t see HBG putting real money into the Wests Tigers brand in Campbelltown when it feels like it’s competing with their own Magpies identity. If I were Peter V’landys, I’d issue a 'use it or lose it' ultimatum: either the Tigers commit to the Macarthur region properly, or we open the gates to a club like the Bulldogs who actually want to be there. It’s a drastic move, but it might be the only way to force their hand

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Great post, can't disagree with anything you've said.

It poses the question; what is the Wests Tigers strategy to win the hearts of kids in South West Sydney?

We are already 25 years behind.

My nephew lives 10km from Campbelltown and he was very close to following his other uncle's footsteps and following the Broncos. The Tigers have not been to his school once and he's about to start year 5; I find that insane.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the Magpies vs. Balmain divide is still the core issue here. I don’t see HBG putting real money into the Wests Tigers brand in Campbelltown when it feels like it’s competing with their own Magpies identity. If I were Peter V’landys, I’d issue a 'use it or lose it' ultimatum: either the Tigers commit to the Macarthur region properly, or we open the gates to a club like the Bulldogs who actually want to be there. It’s a drastic move, but it might be the only way to force their hand

what is the Wests Tigers strategy to win the hearts of kids in South West Sydney?

Very complex question.

Look at Macarthur in the A League, has this team captured Campbelltown locals hearts?

I think it is a social and economic question as well.

Unless any club win in the region of a winning ratio of a top 4 team i don't think they will capture any hearts no matter what any club does.

Its a fickle area to commercialise

 

[Odessa]

Y

what is the Wests Tigers strategy to win the hearts of kids in South West Sydney?

Very complex question.

Look at Macarthur in the A League, has this team captured Campbelltown locals hearts?

I think it is a social and economic question as well.

Unless any club win in the region of a winning ratio of a top 4 team i don't think they will capture any hearts no matter what any club does.

Its a fickle area to commercialise

Campbelltown doesn't fill up like the 8 wonder and I prefer watching at the 8th

But long term it has to be Campbelltown 8 games the rest at the 8th hopefully


And if it doesn't work 50/50 there's an inch in the back of my mind saying the 8th will be better for wins which is a must for professional sports and more profitable at the 8th


Juniors say Campbelltown but if the club is well run that's less important

 

[Bellend]

Y

what is the Wests Tigers strategy to win the hearts of kids in South West Sydney?

Very complex question.

Look at Macarthur in the A League, has this team captured Campbelltown locals hearts?

I think it is a social and economic question as well.

Unless any club win in the region of a winning ratio of a top 4 team i don't think they will capture any hearts no matter what any club does.

Its a fickle area to commercialise

When West was originally at Campbelltown they did do a lot of work in the area 5 years before the meagre they slowed down and has been liked that since. This year there has been a increase but they could do so much more. Same in the A-league side as well.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

When West was originally at Campbelltown they did do a lot of work in the area 5 years before the meagre they slowed down and has been liked that since. This year there has been a increase but they could do so much more. Same in the A-league side as well.

Does this not come back to the owners and the amount of money they can pour into the club., deeper pockets needed.

 

[area52]

Campbelltown doesn't fill up like the 8 wonder and I prefer watching at the 8th

But long term it has to be Campbelltown 8 games the rest at the 8th hopefully


And if it doesn't work 50/50 there's an inch in the back of my mind saying the 8th will be better for wins which is a must for professional sports and more profitable at the 8th


Juniors say Campbelltown but if the club is well run that's less important

My point is Campbelltown people wont give a stuff about tigers until top 4 team and how realistic is that?

 

[area52]

When West was originally at Campbelltown they did do a lot of work in the area 5 years before the meagre they slowed down and has been liked that since. This year there has been a increase but they could do so much more. Same in the A-league side as well.

I think it comes down to winning

 

[Wezt]

If I remember right, he left Parra when he wasn't wanted there, odd some guys head back after been shown the door you would think they would dislike that club with a vengeance.

The person that forced Moses out of Parra ended up at the Tigers the year after

 

[innsaneink]

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what is the Wests Tigers strategy to win the hearts of kids in South West Sydney?

Very complex question.

Look at Macarthur in the A League, has this team captured Campbelltown locals hearts?

I think it is a social and economic question as well.

Unless any club win in the region of a winning ratio of a top 4 team i don't think they will capture any hearts no matter what any club does.

Its a fickle area to commercialise

To be fair....we have linked with Eagle Vale st andrews high school which has become a dedicated sports high school...also joined forces with UWS.
Opened the junior academy out there and eventually will play most home games there

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Great post, can't disagree with anything you've said.

It poses the question; what is the Wests Tigers strategy to win the hearts of kids in South West Sydney?

We are already 25 years behind.

My nephew lives 10km from Campbelltown and he was very close to following his other uncle's footsteps and following the Broncos. The Tigers have not been to his school once and he's about to start year 5; I find that insane.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the Magpies vs. Balmain divide is still the core issue here. I don’t see HBG putting real money into the Wests Tigers brand in Campbelltown when it feels like it’s competing with their own Magpies identity. If I were Peter V’landys, I’d issue a 'use it or lose it' ultimatum: either the Tigers commit to the Macarthur region properly, or we open the gates to a club like the Bulldogs who actually want to be there. It’s a drastic move, but it might be the only way to force their hand

big problem with the Campbelltown Macarthur area is as people have moved out there to purchase homes etc they are heading out there already following another team e.g. parents followed dragons or parramatta or souths etc or as a kid they might have followed another team.
The default for the kids is not necessarily Tigers.

 

[innsaneink]

Does this not come back to the owners and the amount of money they can pour into the club., deeper pockets needed.

Shallower

 

[Tiger_claws]

1 - Moses is a Parra Junior
2 - Cleary pulled his Contract

He never had a chance to prove any loyalty.

As much as I don’t want to talk about Moses, your not serious re; he never had a chance to prove any loyalty

 

[GNR4LIFE]

As much as I don’t want to talk about Moses, your not serious re; he never had a chance to prove any loyalty

They had 12 months to extend their contracts prior to Cleary arriving. Instead, Woods went on tv every week and ummed and ahhed every time the question was put to him about staying. He had some of the worst advisers any player has ever had. Was made to believe he was bigger than the club. Took him about 5 mins after he signed with the Dogs to realise he’d screwed up royally.

 

[Tiger_claws]

They had 12 months to extend their contracts prior to Cleary arriving. Instead, Woods went on tv every week and ummed and ahhed every time the question was put to him about staying. He had some of the worst advisers any player has ever had. Was made to believe he was bigger than the club. Took him about 5 mins after he signed with the Dogs to realise he’d screwed up royally.

Exactly. Moses showed no loyalty. He had a handshake agreement with the Roosters & then backed out. Its the reason why Politis doesn’t deal with Isaac Moses

 

[Odessa]

My point is Campbelltown people wont give a stuff about tigers until top 4 team and how realistic is that?

And maybe never

 

[king_sirro]

If I remember right, he left Parra when he wasn't wanted there, odd some guys head back after been shown the door you would think they would dislike that club with a vengeance.

Don't like to dredge up the past but if we could have retained him and Teddy makes you wonder just how much better we could have been with them in the spine, would they have been an attraction for other players to come over to us.

Still the club would have been under control of the witch doctors holding us back.

I've always thought that too. Seems odd to go back to a club that rejected you. Personally I'd spend my career trying to stick it to them.

 

[batboy]

If I remember right, he left Parra when he wasn't wanted there, odd some guys head back after been shown the door you would think they would dislike that club with a vengeance.

Don't like to dredge up the past but if we could have retained him and Teddy makes you wonder just how much better we could have been with them in the spine, would they have been an attraction for other players to come over to us.

Still the club would have been under control of the witch doctors holding us back.

Nothing would have eventuated, we had zero leaders to show them how to win - and we’re paying them too much to have quality around them.

As much as I don’t want to talk about Moses, your not serious re; he never had a chance to prove any loyalty

Nope
We pulled the contract - it’s easy to assume the final outcome, but the truth is - history will never know.

They had 12 months to extend their contracts prior to Cleary arriving. Instead, Woods went on tv every week and ummed and ahhed every time the question was put to him about staying. He had some of the worst advisers any player has ever had. Was made to believe he was bigger than the club. Took him about 5 mins after he signed with the Dogs to realise he’d screwed up royally.

We were also a club that had been through 2 coaches and looking to get rid of a 3rd inside 5 years - had also been through 3 ceos and just paid out club captain and longest serving player 1 million dollars to play somewhere else for a year - how exactly are they supposed to respond, and how would you have them think?

I don’t disagree with you necessarily,
or think the outcome may have been to different
- but laying it all on a bunch of young blokes because they got out of the shit show, I just won’t wear that.

After all,
almost 10 years later - we’re all still here, with the clowns at the top still playing the e same stupid games!

 

[Telltails]

Nothing would have eventuated, we had zero leaders to show them how to win - and we’re paying them too much to have quality around them.


Nope
We pulled the contract - it’s easy to assume the final outcome, but the truth is - history will never know.


We were also a club that had been through 2 coaches and looking to get rid of a 3rd inside 5 years - had also been through 3 ceos and just paid out club captain and longest serving player 1 million dollars to play somewhere else for a year - how exactly are they supposed to respond, and how would you have them think?

I don’t disagree with you necessarily,
or think the outcome may have been to different
- but laying it all on a bunch of young blokes because they got out of the shit show, I just won’t wear that.

After all,
almost 10 years later - we’re all still here, with the clowns at the top still playing the e same stupid games!

Of the big 4 - I would say none of them regret leaving and Brooks probably regrets not leaving sooner.

 

[wstigers11]

Of the big 4 - I would say none and of them regret leaving and Brooks probably regrets not leaving sooner.

woodsy has spoken about regretting leaving.

 

[mtd#2]

This is difficult to believe,
they visit 100 odd schools every year / half would be out there (at least)

Have you ever googled it, might have just missed them?

I stand corrected, they visited in 2021 when he was in kindergarten but haven't been back since - or maybe the school limited to certain ages?