Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Sukkar has actually played most of his footy days as a prop. So no, it's fair. He only played second row due to a lack of other options, like Seyfarth. They're both props. As is Roberts.
Mate what do you know 🤣 he hasn’t played any prop other than a year in cup

He’s been a second rower and lock for most of his career

Instead of talking about a kid who has done more this morning than you have done your whole life, why don’t you celebrate that we have a wealthy and fruitful junior system promoting our cubs
 
So a few things about some actual Wests players.
Luke Jack has put on about 7kg's over the off season and he's a 100% better player for it. He was getting dominated last year. Charlie Murray also seems bigger . Well done to our conditioning team.

We now have an abundance of backrowers who can fill in and do a job for the team when you add Saukuru, Godinet, Tapau-Moors, Geyer and Roberts to our starters. It's a huge improvement from the dark days of starting Seyfarth and Sukkar.

Makasini has to start. He's physically ready and mentally very confident. He's already the best centre at the club.

Finally Attard is a star in the making. Before offering Bula silly money they need to keep in mind that Attard is an Nrl starter in 2027.
If Attard is as good as people suggest he will force his way in, either starting on the wing or pushing Bula to the centres. Although Makasini and May are potentially a top 4 centre combination.

I'm pretty high on Bula though. The ceiling is enormous.

Was great to see Attard, Brookes and Tavana go around on the weekend. Nice to have some athletes in waiting in the wings rather than your Lobbs and Caseys of the world.
 
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In the last 10 years lol....ive watched him since he was 8 years old. He never gets dominated carrying the ball, never. Your biased against him big time and its clouding your eyes.

That being said, I may be biased towards him because i never thought he would play NRL, so im surprised he has gone ok at a young age. Maybe that clouds my judgement a little. He was average on Saturday. Never got dominated like you make up, but he got stood up badly twice by footwork just hanging the arm out. And it reminded that he has always just hung an arm out when footwork is put on him. If he doesn't fix that then he is gone. For the record I dont know him. My son played against him and I always respected Tony because he was bigger and faster than everyone in the comp but he was never a grub. So I wish him well.
My son played against Tony aswell, you’re 100% correct he has a bright future

He is in a system that he needs to follow to the T. If you recall, He’s actually an aggressive attacking player, not the defensive player he has been moulded into, but then again he’s always been team first
 
Parramatta didnt think he would be coming back, he now wants to and unfortunately they need to make room for him or let him play elsewhere and be compensated for it.
most players would have gone to rugby but he is a moron afterall
I think that is what they want - except Melbourne want a SOO player at a bargain basement price - stuff them. If the NRL had any guts at all they would be telling Melbourne that whatever compensation you pay goes on top of any lomax contract amount as part of your salary cap.
 
If Attard is as good as people suggest he will force his way in, either starting on the wing or pushing Bula to the centres. Although Makasini and May are potentially a top 4 centre combination.

I'm pretty high on Bula though. The ceiling is enormous.

Was great to see Attard, Brookes and Tavana go around on the weekend. Nice to have some athletes in waiting in the wings rather than your Lobbs and Caseys of the world.
Attard is good insurance for Bula. Either for injury or if he leaves.

Secondly, someone said he can play 1 to 6 in the backline. Great guy to have on the extended bench this year to cover for in-game injury.
 
Yep - i hate parra as much as anyone else on here but wish we had the balls to dig in and demand either like for like or a higher amount of compensation or take one of our dud top 30. $ 150 k is a joke - wouldn't have even kept Braith in gatorade and tape for a season.
If i recall correctly, the Bulldogs paid around $500k compensation for some Gold Coast junior that had never played NRL level before. That puts the $150k for Galvin into perspective and also provides another view on the $200k and then $300k upped offer of compensation that Melbourne offered Parra.
 
My son played against Tony aswell, you’re 100% correct he has a bright future

He is in a system that he needs to follow to the T. If you recall, He’s actually an aggressive attacking player, not the defensive player he has been moulded into, but then again he’s always been team first
Interesting as my son played on same team as him in his younger days and was at same school as him.
He was always a very polite and respectful kid and I think that is part of his problem, he doesn’t have a bad bone in his body.
For him to continue playing NRL long term he simply just needs to run the ball hard and hit top speed much more regularly as he’s a big body who is quick for a forward, but you wouldn’t know it as he does not often hit top speed when running the ball.
 
Interesting as my son played on same team as him in his younger days and was at same school as him.
He was always a very polite and respectful kid and I think that is part of his problem, he doesn’t have a bad bone in his body.
For him to continue playing NRL long term he simply just needs to run the ball hard and hit top speed much more regularly as he’s a big body who is quick for a forward, but you wouldn’t know it as he does not often hit top speed when running the ball.
I agree with you mate. It’s difficult to be yourself when you’re in such a rigid system.
As I said previous, I remember him as a player who was pure aggression and 100% attack. Maybe the coaching staff have a mould for him and expect him to stick to it
 
If Attard is as good as people suggest he will force his way in, either starting on the wing or pushing Bula to the centres. Although Makasini and May are potentially a top 4 centre combination.

I'm pretty high on Bula though. The ceiling is enormous.

Was great to see Attard, Brookes and Tavana go around on the weekend. Nice to have some athletes in waiting in the wings rather than your Lobbs and Caseys of the world.
I think attard has a bright bright future, we saw glimpses of his footy mind and his pace

Few errors are ok when you’re first entering the major leagues but definitely am hopeful
 
I’m confused by your post. What level are you saying Bula is at?

Then you said “I think Attard, with a 1-year apprenticeship under his belt this year, will have a negligible or nil drop off in skills compared to Bula.”

Bula just turned 24…

What are you saying?
I'm saying a fair and reasonable offer is OK.
BUT NOT AN INFLATED PRICE TAG as a top 4 fullback may demand.
No paying overs to someone who has $$$$ in their eyes and ready to leave for another club if we don't cough up the big dollars.
We must manage the cap with a touch of reality. There are other important players to fit under the cap.
Is that clear enough for you?
 
I agree with you mate. It’s difficult to be yourself when you’re in such a rigid system.
As I said previous, I remember him as a player who was pure aggression and 100% attack. Maybe the coaching staff have a mould for him and expect him to stick to it
I know the flat starting point which I believe is instructed throughout our top 3 grades definitely effects the attacking threat of some of our young emerging edge back rowers as many of them are used to standing deep and running into the ball at speed before they started playing the much flatter structure that us and many other NRL clubs now adopt.
This is also my concern with KPP as he’s a real handful when running at speed, but is easy pickings when at half pace.
 
Interesting as my son played on same team as him in his younger days and was at same school as him.
He was always a very polite and respectful kid and I think that is part of his problem, he doesn’t have a bad bone in his body.
For him to continue playing NRL long term he simply just needs to run the ball hard and hit top speed much more regularly as he’s a big body who is quick for a forward, but you wouldn’t know it as he does not often hit top speed when running the ball.
Tony is 104 kg and 186 cm, which is a decent size but fairly typical for an NRL forward, and he’ll only be 22 this year.

Most forwards take time to establish themselves in the NRL because the physical advantage they relied on in juniors disappears, forcing them to develop technical, tactical, and mental attributes before they can compete effectively.

I haven't seen much from him that suggests he has or had something else other than some size in juniors. It can translate to NRL, but he's not particularly aggressive like Sam Fainu...it's actually what I worry about with KPP too. Seyfarth...aggressive without the size to back it up.

I'm certain Tony is a good bloke though.
 
Tony is 104 kg and 186 cm, which is a decent size but fairly typical for an NRL forward, and he’ll only be 22 this year.

Most forwards take time to establish themselves in the NRL because the physical advantage they relied on in juniors disappears, forcing them to develop technical, tactical, and mental attributes before they can compete effectively.

I haven't seen much from him that suggests he has or had something else other than some size in juniors. It can translate to NRL, but he's not particularly aggressive like Sam Fainu...it's actually what I worry about with KPP too. Seyfarth...aggressive without the size to back it up.

I'm certain Tony is a good bloke though.
You are right is saying lack of aggression can be a problem with young forwards trying to make their mark in the NRL.
I do know the flat starting point instructed to our edge back rowers has been a problem for a lot of them who rely on hitting top speed to show their best.
There were signs we may be getting a bit more flexible in this style of play with Samuela Fainu starting deeper and having much more impact late last season and although Saturday was just a trial against mainly lower grade players, our attack looked much sharper with players in motion and overlaps being created partly by our edge back rowers looking to run hard and sucking in defenders even when they were not receiving the ball.
I’m hoping a minor adjustment on the starting point of our edge back rowers from might now be in place and for the better.
 
If Attard is as good as people suggest he will force his way in, either starting on the wing or pushing Bula to the centres. Although Makasini and May are potentially a top 4 centre combination.

I'm pretty high on Bula though. The ceiling is enormous.

Was great to see Attard, Brookes and Tavana go around on the weekend. Nice to have some athletes in waiting in the wings rather than your Lobbs and Caseys of the world.
Lobb - pathetic.
 
No they didn't - they got Pezet to replace Brown. They signed Pezet in Oct and they released Lomax in Nov
Lomax asked for a release mid year, and Pezet manager was all over the situation well before the end of the season - claiming Lomax had played his last game for the Eels (he knew where the money was coming from and where it was going)

Browns money was spent not long after he announced he was moving on and Lomax money was spent on Pezet and Kelly.

If they didn’t spend it on Pezet and Kelly, where is it - they knocked him back when he was looking to return.

Furthermore, where are they getting the money for Stefano, Coates etc.
they haven’t got a mill sitting there, even if Melbourne would release one.
 
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