Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

We don’t seem to get the opportunity to bring our juniors along slowly

We always panic with our development and it dosen't help that many people on here claim "If your old enough you are good enough",that may be the case with a FEW but with the vast majority of young blokes there is no substitute for time and maturity.
 
This thread is insane! I don’t know if I’m reading about junior pathways, gay footballers, bigots, something someone said about how we’re not going to pay overs for players anymore, but no one can remember who. My life is confusing enough already, i think I’ll come back and check to see if we’ve signed someone at a later date 🏃‍♂️
Haha! Here is as safe as it gets, I didn't once open the Penriff game thread!!!
 
Their squad is deep because of their pathways? And they are more profitable than us?
If you are asking me those questions …no ..I don’t believe they have better pathways or more money than us ..
I dug into this last year and you will be surprised, although the data was 2024 it really tells the story. You can find the post here.

To save you digging and answer the question ... The sources are from all over the shop so it may not be comparing apples with apples, but if you look at what they generate and what's contibuted it is significantly more that our staff are playing with so we are definitely doing it on the skinny.

ClubEst. Revenue (2024)OwnerReported investment in NRL spend
Warriors~A$11.6 MAutex Industries (Mark Robinson)Club earns approx 11.6M in revenue. I could find no information on how this is invested.
No info on owner donations
Manly Sea Eagles~A$11.5 MScott Penn (100% owner)Club earns approx $11.5M but I could find no information on how this is invested. Peen is reported to have invested an addtional $6.6 M since 2006 ($2.6M as a personal donation)
Canberra Raiders~A$25.9 M (franchise); league club ~A$92 MCanberra District RL Football Club$5 M+ via league‑club profits
Canberra Raiders is a not for profit so this is the spend on top of the NRL grant.
Cronulla Sharks~A$19.5–22 MCronulla‑Sutherland District RLFC$5M on top of a $2.74M football department profit in 2024. The Sharks are not run as a Not for Profit organisation; but the Leagues Club is. There is potential for funding to increase once new Leagues Club is complete ($30M investment)
Wests Tigers~A$67.8 M* (non‑grant income)Holman Barnes Group (via Wests Ashfield Leagues Clubs)1.8M (2024) Wests Tigers is a not for profit so this is the spend on top of the NRL grant.

You can only imagine how much the like of Brisbane and the Storm are throwing around. The bottom line is that HBG are doing bugger all for us, even though their primary objective is to support rugby league in the region. You have to wonder, given the objectives of the club, how they can justify funding sports like rugby union and soccer, that are in direct competition for our junior base. I get that it is a community based club - but it is a community based rugby league club. It appears that most of the pokies $ go back into the club patrons as opposed to supporting the growth and development of Wests Tigers and our pathways.
 
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I dug into this last year and you will be surprised, althuugh the data was 2024 data it really tells the story. You can find the post here.

To save you digging and answer the question ... The sources are from all over the shop so it may not be comparing apples with apples, but if you look at what they generate and what's contibuted it is significantly more that our staff are playing with so we are definitely doing it on the skinny.

ClubEst. Revenue (2024)OwnerReported investment in NRL spend
Warriors~A$11.6 MAutex Industries (Mark Robinson)Club earns approx 11.6M in revenue. I could find no information on how this is invested.
No info on owner donations
Manly Sea Eagles~A$11.5 MScott Penn (100% owner)Club earns approx $11.5M but I could find no information on how this is invested. Peen is reported to have invested an addtional $6.6 M since 2006 ($2.6M as a personal donation)
Canberra Raiders~A$25.9 M (franchise); league club ~A$92 MCanberra District RL Football Club$5 M+ via league‑club profits
Canberra Raiders is a not for profit so this is the spend on top of the NRL grant.
Cronulla Sharks~A$19.5–22 MCronulla‑Sutherland District RLFC$5M on top of a $2.74M football department profit in 2024. The Sharks are not run as a Not for Profit organisation; but the Leagues Club is. There is potential for funding to increase once new Leagues Club is complete ($30M investment)
Wests Tigers~A$67.8 M* (non‑grant income)Holman Barnes Group (via Wests Ashfield Leagues Clubs)1.8M (2024) Wests Tigers is a not for profit so this is the spend on top of the NRL grant.

You can only imagine how much the like of Brisbane and the Storm are throwing around. The bottom line is that HBG are doing bugger all for us, even though their primary objective is to support rugby league in the region. You have to wonder, given the objectives of the club, how they can justify funding sports like rugby union and soccer, that are in direct competition for our junior base. I get that it is a community based club - but it is a community based rugby league club. It appears that most of the pokies $ go back into the club patrons as opposed to supporting the growth and development of Wests Tigers and our pathways.
100%. I believe the dogs receive $5M annually which is no doubt poured into their pathways.
 
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I dug into this last year and you will be surprised, although the data was 2024 it really tells the story. You can find the post here.

To save you digging and answer the question ... The sources are from all over the shop so it may not be comparing apples with apples, but if you look at what they generate and what's contibuted it is significantly more that our staff are playing with so we are definitely doing it on the skinny.

ClubEst. Revenue (2024)OwnerReported investment in NRL spend
Warriors~A$11.6 MAutex Industries (Mark Robinson)Club earns approx 11.6M in revenue. I could find no information on how this is invested.
No info on owner donations
Manly Sea Eagles~A$11.5 MScott Penn (100% owner)Club earns approx $11.5M but I could find no information on how this is invested. Peen is reported to have invested an addtional $6.6 M since 2006 ($2.6M as a personal donation)
Canberra Raiders~A$25.9 M (franchise); league club ~A$92 MCanberra District RL Football Club$5 M+ via league‑club profits
Canberra Raiders is a not for profit so this is the spend on top of the NRL grant.
Cronulla Sharks~A$19.5–22 MCronulla‑Sutherland District RLFC$5M on top of a $2.74M football department profit in 2024. The Sharks are not run as a Not for Profit organisation; but the Leagues Club is. There is potential for funding to increase once new Leagues Club is complete ($30M investment)
Wests Tigers~A$67.8 M* (non‑grant income)Holman Barnes Group (via Wests Ashfield Leagues Clubs)1.8M (2024) Wests Tigers is a not for profit so this is the spend on top of the NRL grant.

You can only imagine how much the like of Brisbane and the Storm are throwing around. The bottom line is that HBG are doing bugger all for us, even though their primary objective is to support rugby league in the region. You have to wonder, given the objectives of the club, how they can justify funding sports like rugby union and soccer, that are in direct competition for our junior base. I get that it is a community based club - but it is a community based rugby league club. It appears that most of the pokies $ go back into the club patrons as opposed to supporting the growth and development of Wests Tigers and our pathways.

Firstly … thanks…

What’s the story with WT revenue ? This seems a bit out of whack …

Also Manly revenue is tiny … Penn wouldn’t contribute much as you have stated …
 
Yes sounds about right mate , maybe we get some news next day or so , what’s your thought on him coming early , rest of this season , I think it would help if we have the cash , spot we need help with ?
Id be all for it him coming early but if I were the Dolphins it aint happening...they have farnsworth and bostock.hes depth for them...theyre finals bound for sure
 
Cronulla makes the 8 every year, and I wouldn’t say they are flush with money, pathways or juniors …

They concentrate on good experienced coaching and having a solid squad though …
Sharks.juniors numbers are thru the roof a bigger increase than penrith a couple of years back
 
And hasn’t played any kind of competitive game for 7 years
But has he been training?

Two possibilities:
1. He has been training in Jail for 7 years and is looking for a paycheck. He will then try at Boxing and want a NRL stint. We could use a beefcake forward.

2. he has done not much for 7 years or isn't up to our fitness standard. We send him to Reggie's on a trial n train or value outside of the cap. Benchwarmer because we need Samuela in our squad/keep Fainu's happy.
 
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