Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Leck said:
I'm going to liken this to Melbourne coming into the NRL in 1998 after the Super League war and being 100% backed by News Limited. They won the premiership in 1999.

There was a massive incentive to ensure that the Storm was instantly successful in an AFL centric state.

The same thing is happening here, however the primary cash cow is the government. The difference is that the Storm were not given player tax free concessions.

It's no longer a level playing field. There's just not enough great talent to go around, so there will be huge disparities in games and scorelines.

Albo and PVL have gotten this wrong. That's why Abdo jumped ship.
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Heard from a College in PNG that China is prepared to fund the Average person in PNG nrl season tickets for 28/29 bet that would make Albo's day.
 
Dr_Ice said:
The AFL has had some very poor teams over the past few seasons who barely win games. Also teams that have consistently been up the top. Distribution of talent via a draft/transfer window doesn’t always lead to a closer competition.
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You're a couple of replies behind Ice. The Hawks and Cats have had a few lean years, they're now back in the winners circle.

Richmond won 3 premierships from 2016, and whilst they are rebuilding, they probably have the most exciting crop of young talent in the comp at the moment.

The whole point of a draft is to distribute talent fairly.
 
Leck said:
Possibly, however this current grassroots system isn't working in my opinion.

In the AFL, young players coming through Coates, the Talent League, State Leagues and Junior Academies can nominate for the draft. They understand that they could be drafted by any club, and that the club will pay their living expenses, salary, training and provide a development contract.

It works well in every other professional sport. It feels like we are still living in the past.
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No the current system is not working …no argument there …

Every sport is unique and has its own challenges …what works in the AFL doesn’t necessarily work for us …primarily it’s like I said ..they don’t have a global sport they can go and play and get paid the same amount of money like the NRL has to compete with..if the player doesn’t like the team he gets drafted by

Another point I didn’t mention … the NRL would have to completely take over junior development as there would be no incentives for any club to continue to do it ..i don’t see that happening anytime soon
 
Bellend said:
Heard from a College in PNG that China is prepared to fund the Average person in PNG nrl season tickets for 28/29 bet that would make Albo's day.
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Maybe China can offer them a team in their basketball league …not sure the locals will be as excited about that though,,,
 
Tom Shines said:
I’m confused …isn’t PVL trying to change this thing about them getting players under market rates ?
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He’s trying to fix the mess he made in the first place.
Should be no free rides.

The NRL will not improve under this shonk.
Not saying it’s gunna under the next bloke either but PVL is a shonk.
 
Tom Shines said:
Yeah I think we all get that … but Vlandys is specifically saying that PNG can’t use that as a way to get players to sign there on the cheap
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Not just PNG, all players have to be market value on the salary cap no matter where they play. Luai had a contract with us at $1.2m and therefore even if PNG paid him $900k, the 1.2m will be the amount shown on the cap. This is why teams like the roosters, storm, broncos very rarely allow players to "test the market" and its also why teams are desperate to get the deals done prior to Nov 1. Could also explain why Richo was very vocal about the offer he made to Galvin and why Galvin's management did not want to even look at it as it may have impacted Dogs ability to acquire him under the cap. They probably pay a percent of his freight with TPA's via Laundy and his mates.
 
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PNG can only compete by offering tax-free money. Who wants to live in a high crime 3rd world shithole where they have to live in a compound because all the local doctors and engineers make it unsafe unless there is a barbed-wire fence around the compound. Tax-free money is the only reason the PNG club doesn't die. As soon as they remove tax-free money, the club dies.
 
Leck said:
If you're on a $1.1m contract or salary in Australia you will pay $482,870 in tax.

$900,000 tax free sounds pretty good to me. There is a major problem that's brewing quickly.
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They said last night on 360 if chiefs try and pay unders the nrl won’t lodge the contract so for Hudson they will need to match or beat Canberras 1.1m (market value) a season unless multiple other clubs come in offering less than 1.1m as that changes Hudson’s market value
 
Tom Shines said:
No the current system is not working …no argument there …

Every sport is unique and has its own challenges …what works in the AFL doesn’t necessarily work for us …primarily it’s like I said ..they don’t have a global sport they can go and play and get paid the same amount of money like the NRL has to compete with..if the player doesn’t like the team he gets drafted by

Another point I didn’t mention … the NRL would have to completely take over junior development as there would be no incentives for any club to continue to do it ..i don’t see that happening anytime soon
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The interesting thing is that most AFL clubs are owned by their members, who vote for the board and have a direct say in governance, rather than our antiquated system, which is driven by gambling dollars, leagues clubs and debenture holders.

For any new clubs like the Tassie Devils, the AFL will run governance until they become profitable. This also applies to any club that is losing money.

Yeah, the whole grass roots and club system would have to be re-worked, but the future benefits would ensure we're as competitive as the AFL in terms of attendance and profitability.
 
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