Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Didn't the Knights just win their LAST game 12 to 10

You just keep shooting yourself in the foot

You wanna make a bet that the Knights and Dolphins BOTH win this weekend

I don't know why I bother , you try and put words into other people's mouth .....I never mentioned the 80s and never claimed winning 12 to 10 .....but you continue to crap on
Are the Knights known to be a good defensive team, or much better known for their attack?
You are shooting yourself in the foot as the Knights are proof that an attack minded team can have the mindset to defend very well in big games, off the back of the confidence they have in their attacking ability.
Opposing teams cannot condense their defence against the Knights like they djjagainsg us as they know the Knights have the speed and class to score long range tries.
Like I said earlier, if a defensive minded 5/8 was the answer, the Panthers would not have offloaded Jack Cole.
 
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And keeping Douehei ......if his attitude is ok with you ....it says a lot about you

He's been here throughout the last 7 years .....we've been attacking maestros with him haven't we .....

We are probably going to finish 17th with or without him

Bye Bye Adam ......
So who are you bringing in?
Who gets rid of one of their best performed players without having a better replacement in mind?
Do you know what Doueihi’s issues were?
You are assuming he spat the dummy because he didn’t want to play 13.
He has already come out and denied that was the reason.
We sure have a lot of fans who love making assumptions without really knowing the backstory to what they are commenting on.
We tried having a defensive minded team with no speed or attacking ability somewhere around 2018.
The season I am talking about saw us play some of the most boring rugby league ever seen, surely you don’t want a repeat of that?
 
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Douehei defence isn't up to it, he won't cope with the workload , and I know this shouldn't matter but he doesn't want to play lock

We had the worse defence in the NRL and you then want to move a player to a position that would make us the worst in the NRL in that position ....madness mate
He shouldn't be at the club period
No . I want to put a player in his best position to thrive . The fact there’s a whole bunch of yea buts … is the reason I want to get rid of him .
The guy is 195cm 100kg . For me at that size , if you can’t defend 1 position in , then the juice is not worth the squeeze .
Thats simply not a good enough argument , as anyone with any football knowledge can see he’s not quite dynamic enough for centre , doesn’t have the necessary ball skills for halves , and isn’t fast enough for fullback . Which leaves edge back row , if he wants the ball in scoring positions or lock if he wants to have a say on dictating the play .
I honestly don’t understand the counter argument . Its nrl .
 
Sorry didn't read whole post because think it's a bit unfair expectations to have with him playing with that injury also didn't help coach and Injuries he never got playing back to 6

Already said he a terrible 7

Im sure the opposition wouldnt like jock or latu creating gaps with samuela kpp and may to deal with additional to adam running edges i saw him at Easter show peak form HUGEE
What ? Sorry mate , but that doesn’t read well at all . I’m not understanding what you’re getting at ?
AD is not a half moving forward (when I say half I mean both) . And only the staunchest super fans can’t see it . It’s a natural progression especially for bigger halves . Fittler , Daley , Sutton , Campese , bird , Lewis , Smith , all moved to lock as they closed down the 30yo marker.
His limitations are soo transparent and such aan anchor around the teams neck , that his positives can’t ever outdo it . I don’t care how many solo tries he scores , when we are only scoring collectively 2.5 tries a game .
 
What ? Sorry mate , but that doesn’t read well at all . I’m not understanding what you’re getting at ?
AD is not a half moving forward (when I say half I mean both) . And only the staunchest super fans can’t see it . It’s a natural progression especially for bigger halves . Fittler , Daley , Sutton , Campese , bird , Lewis , Smith , all moved to lock as they closed down the 30yo marker.
His limitations are soo transparent and such aan anchor around the teams neck , that his positives can’t ever outdo it . I don’t care how many solo tries he scores , when we are only scoring collectively 2.5 tries a game .
He looked elite at 6 during that period we were winning games before he got injured . That my point, which i think cannot be argued.
He must have of had a big preseaon to be able to have that form.
 
Douehei defence isn't up to it, he won't cope with the workload , and I know this shouldn't matter but he doesn't want to play lock

We had the worse defence in the NRL and you then want to move a player to a position that would make us the worst in the NRL in that position ....madness mate
He shouldn't be at the club period
The issue is now that with his injury woes and his "I am a leader" that walks out on his mates make him untenable for most clubs at the price he wants. If he is to move on it has to be on his terms or we will be paying freight, and I suspect a lot of it.

I suspect that we are stuck with him. @Lestronge was right in his post above about his poor passing and run selection killing his outside backs despite his early season form so him remaining in the halves is not on and it would also undermine team discipline (and probably morale). Moving him back to centre simply exposes his defence more and he will go back to being good for 12 points a match for the opposition.

AD is a great athlete and does some great things, but leadership and team first are not on that list, along with a short passing game and kick control. What he does posses is a size, strength, the ability to break/bend the line, a good cutout pass (when he wants), a long but uncontrolled kick, and a me first attitude. His only option to save his career is to move into the backrow, make a fist of it, and put some substance behind the statement that he will play anywhere for the team. As a backrower his ability to break a tackle and bend are assets. His run selection will be dictated primarily by the halves so less chance of the outside men freezing to death on a cold winters night in Cambo.

If he can't get his body and attitude right for the contact he will make a good backup centre in Cup where he will have the time to develop a team first attitude. IF he is out of the headlines and given strict guidance on what he needs to do (be part of a team) he can languish there for the next three years and watch others surpass him. It is only when he is faced with that prospect that I see him making the choice to move on; which is what we need from him.
 
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I have no idea what odds Canberra or Brisbane were at the start of the season but I had neither side in my GF predictions

I dont think betting agencies are a speculative futures market

They get it right more often than not or they'd be out of business
Broncos were $6 favourites before the season started
 
The issue is now that with his injury woes and his "I am a leader" that walks out on his mates make him untenable for most clubs at the price he wants. If he is to move on it has to be on his terms or we will be paying freight, and I suspect a lot of it.

I suspect that we are stuck with him. @Lestronge was right in his post above about his poor passing and run selection killing his outside backs despite his early season form so him remaining in the halves is not on and it would also undermine team discipline (and probably morale). Moving him back to centre simply exposes his defence more and he will go back to being good for 12 points a match for the opposition.

AD is a great athlete and does some great things, but leadership and team first are not on that list, along with a short passing game and kick control. What he does posses is a size, strength, the ability to break/bend the line, a good cutout pass (when he wants), a long but uncontrolled kick, and a me first attitude. His only option to save his career is to move into the backrow, make a fist of it, and put some substance behind the statement that he will play anywhere for the team. As a backrower his ability to break a tackle and bend are assets. His run selection will be dictated primarily by the halves so less chance of the outside men freezing to death on a cold winters night in Cambo.

If he can't get his body and attitude right for the contact he will make a good backup centre in Cup where he will have the time to develop a team first attitude. IF he is out of the headlines and given strict guidance on what he needs to do (be part of a team) he can languish there for the next three years and watch others surpass him. It is only when he is faced with that prospect that I see him making the choice to move on; which is what we need from him.

Agree, wish we sacked him.
 
PART 2
The Halves Conundrum & The Schuster Wildcard

With Luai departing, our playmaking options offer contrasting styles:
  • Jock Madden: A textbook, traditional option. He provides a standard, structural kicking game and reliable direction, but lacks x-factor.
  • Latu Fainu: A high-ceiling, modern option with devastating running power and unstructured attacking instincts, but needs to work on his discipline and game management.
  • Javon Andrews: A big half and a rookie wildcard. While sidelined at the tail-end of the season with a right calf strain, he represents raw potential that he demonstrated clearly in NSW Cup. He needs more time in Cup to refine his defensive reads before transitioning to first grade permanently.
  • Josh Schuster: The ultimate reclamation project. Dropping an astounding 33kg (from 120kg to 97kg) to play NSW Cup proves his dedication. He offers elite ball-playing size, and Benji clearly views him as a high-reward asset who could easily push for a Top 30 spot as a utility, back-rower, or dynamic five-eighth.
  • Jake Averillo at 6? Shifting Averillo to five-eighth injects speed and an explosive running threat directly into the spine, but it could disrupt team balance. Offensively, Averillo at 6 would excel at unlocking outside backs on quick shift plays, using his acceleration to slice through compressed lines. These traits would create instant, dynamic sweep combinations with Jahream Bula. However, this move would place an immense burden on the halfback. Because Averillo relies on an instinctive, eyes-up running style rather than disciplined tactical kicking, pairing him with someone like Fainu leaves us with two run-first playmakers and no structural control. To make Averillo at 6 viable, he would need to be paired with a percentage-play halfback like Jock, who could shoulder the game management, direct end-of-set kicking, and anchor the defence.
Our halves are our biggest puzzle, requiring a calculated transition plan that balances immediate on-field performance with targeted investment in our genuine generational talent.
  • The Short Term: We are in a decent position here with a three-into-two competition over the off-season between Madden, Latu, and Schuster. In my mind, it all depends on how Schuster progresses. From a developmental perspective, the more time Latu spends at 7, the better. However, this depends on Schuster being up to standard at 6. If he is, it allows Madden to backup the 7 spot and mentor Latu on game management, while Schuster takes the opposite role with Javon Andrews: starting 6 and mentor. Should Schuster not be up to the task, Madden must act as the primary, steady general to handle the tactical kicking and organising duties. This structural safety net would allow Latu to play his natural, high-tempo running game with maximum freedom; lowering his error rate and protecting him from playmaking pressure while he builds first-grade resilience.
  • The Long-Term Strategy: The future lies in a dynamic combination of Latu and Andrews. Once Latu develops his ability to manage game tempo, the pathway for Andrews to transition into the top grade is clear. Javon provides distinct line-running traits and raw playmaking potential that, when paired with Fainu's running power, should give us an unpredictable, highly explosive 6/7 pairing capable of driving the team out of this rebuild cycle.
The Rest of the Roster: The Unknowns vs. The Next Wave

The Unknowns (Squad Fillers & Question Marks)
  • Bunty Afoa: Pure operational depth. He'll provide stability and mid-game engine metres, but at his age, offers zero x-factor.
  • Heath Mason: Utility insurance. Versatile depth across fullback, wing, and outside backs, but needs to lock down a permanent role.
  • Tristan Hope: Under immense pressure. The arrival of Jayden Brailey completely pushes Hope out of first-grade utility and backup hooking calculations. He's likely holding back youth if he remains on a Cup contract.

The Development (The Powerhouse Generation)
  • Vaka Aho: An emerging middle forward. He needs to work hard on his fitness and lateral movement in defence. A work in progress, but a keeper.
  • Solomone Saukuru: A highly-rated youngster with great attacking skills but defensively quite frail out wide. He could be an excellent centre with time, but needs careful development with a clear focus on his defensive reads.
  • Ethan Roberts: Officially graduating to the Top 30 in 2027. He showed enough this season to prove he can handle the transition. Expect to see him demanding bench minutes early and building from there.
The Coaching Shake-up
The big moves are happening off the paddock. Morris was Benji's tactical right-hand man, but his tenure was cut short after we leaked points consistently through the middle of the season. Removing the only former head coach from the staff leaves a void in technical accountability.

Weidler has reported that "Bomber's" exit is a targeted move to rein in Benji's operational control. I don’t buy it; Shaun and Pat are doing their due diligence and are shortlisting options. Benji as head coach will still have the final say, so what has really changed?

Having said that, I expect Benji realises by now that he needs to be challenged by strong, progressive football minds if we are going to be successful (meaning Shane Flanagan types need not apply).

While I have no inside info on the process, they have cast the net wide. Given that Teo has ruled himself out, it is highly likely the club will look hard at NSW/QLD Cup specialists. Lower-grade and pathway coaches at other NRL clubs can be readily secured for a first-grade opportunity, as tier-one systems routinely grant releases to staff stepping up into senior NRL assistant roles. We should be targeting tier-one reserve grade systems like the Panthers, Dolphins, Roosters, and Storm, where defensive line-speed and decision-making are drilled into players daily. That would provide a plug-and-play blueprint to fix our defensive leaks.

What Success Looks Like
While success on paper in 2027 is finishing in the Top 8, the reality for us needs to be measured differently. A finals appearance might happen, but real success for us in 2027 means developing a coherent and stable spine, establishing genuine defensive steel, and building the squad depth required to be a long-term threat.

The cold roster reality is that we are still a transitioning team that lacks depth. We might jag a player or two over the off-season to change our fortunes, or get a relatively injury-free run. But at this stage, with our current roster, I see us finishing anywhere between 10th and 14th.

Expect plenty of explosive, high-scoring highlights from our young kids, but developmental inconsistency will likely keep us just outside of finals football for one more season unless we can recruit well during the off season.
Great read Jolls. You've presented a bull case for halves depth but scratch underneath the surface I think we need another halfback. Results showed last year that we play better with a game managing half.

We should be backing in Latu, but we know his injury history and his actual game management is untested. Jock has spent his career floating in and out of first grade, Andrews is untested and more of a 6, Doueihi is a 6, Averillo is a 6. I don't think Schuster should be factoring in to calculations at all at this stage.

Jock is the only real out and out halfback at this point, with question marks over Latu's game management. I don't think the club would see it like this but for me an ideal depth chart would be

7. recruit
6. Latu

14. Doueihi
19. Madden/Andrews

Reserve Grade
7. Madden/Andrews
6. Schuster
 
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Adam D is not an anchor to this club , he can get his shoulder fixed , do pre season and fight for a spot in the 17 just like all other players , then he must be told you are down as 6 , 3 , 13 , 14 , what ever spot given he must play , if he refuses he goes straight To reserve grade and stays there until he proves he is ready to do what coach wants at 100% , he must be treated the same but no favours we have others to replace him and for me. If he finds himself in reserve grade he will either look to exit himself or just flounder in reserve grade , he is better than reserve grade , but no favours , me I think he does fix his shoulder , come back very fit as the is part of his DNA , but after that if Benji and the new asssitant don’t like what’s coming from his mouth or training , reserve grade it is and most likely early release at no cost to us , I’m ok if this happens ,,and in saying this it also should be for every player , be ready for pre season , come back fit or as requested before the break , train hard , earn your spot earn your team mates respect by showing them your ready to hit hard and hurt , give 100% , do some extras on your own or with a team mates, It doesn’t mean you need to do loads of hours , just one hour extra on weights , laps of over , if your a kicker , do some 40/20 , bombs that are aimed at the posts , kick offs looks for the sideline deep in opposition area , grabbers , if your a tad behind in defence get a trainer to stay back and smash the bags , just add a bit extra for your self as it will benefit everyone , just me rant
 
So who are you bringing in?
Who gets rid of one of their best performed players without having a better replacement in mind?
Do you know what Doueihi’s issues were?
You are assuming he spat the dummy because he didn’t want to play 13.
He has already come out and denied that was the reason.
We sure have a lot of fans who love making assumptions without really knowing the backstory to what they are commenting on.
We tried having a defensive minded team with no speed or attacking ability somewhere around 2018.
The season I am talking about saw us play some of the most boring rugby league ever seen, surely you don’t want a repeat of that?
Any player that leaves his team mates out to dry by his actions is a grub in many people’s eyes he is 1 bloke I would not like to be in the trenches beside me
 
Any player that leaves his team mates out to dry by his actions is a grub in many people’s eyes he is 1 bloke I would not like to be in the trenches beside me
There is seemingly a lot more to the story than what has been reported by the media.
People are very quick to judge without knowing the full story.
 
Doing it without Brown too. Something that makes me roll my eyes when people want to pontificate about our injuries. Not to mention, Lucas, Best and Ponga had stints out as well.
 
I think it’s pretty clear that the injury toll we suffered during the season was a huge factor in our performance. Those arguing that it is just an excuse because other clubs had bad injury runs as well need to look at the quality of the replacements that we had to bring in. Where some clubs were able to cover well due to quality depth players we simply were not.
Storm are a perfect example of a squad that once had the depth but this season struggled. Even Sharks once Trindal was out, or Manly.
The Knights or Phins had injuries but have a wealth of quality outside backs to fill in.
Sure we have other issues as well affecting our performances, but it’s a fact that we were unable to consistently field a team of NRL level players for most of the season.
 
I think it’s pretty clear that the injury toll we suffered during the season was a huge factor in our performance. Those arguing that it is just an excuse because other clubs had bad injury runs as well need to look at the quality of the replacements that we had to bring in. Where some clubs were able to cover well due to quality depth players we simply were not.
Storm are a perfect example of a squad that once had the depth but this season struggled. Even Sharks once Trindal was out, or Manly.
The Knights or Phins had injuries but have a wealth of quality outside backs to fill in.
Sure we have other issues as well affecting our performances, but it’s a fact that we were unable to consistently field a team of NRL level players for most of the season.
Good post. It all comes back to depth and we need to do better with resourcing for pathways, juniors etc.
 
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