Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[batboy]

Fancy way of justifying our lack of scouts

No mention of why every other NRL club half a dozen or more and we don’t.

Maybe because they’ve ALL played finals in the last decade, in most grades.

But no, no - it’s not us, it’s them…

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Schiller also has horrid hands at times, usually when the games on the line.

Hmm, concerning, if he signs maybe he can train with Tupou and get some tips off him.

He found a way to shed the flippers.

 

[Vicious]

Let me think about this 🤔
A management company sends the club a highlights video of a young kid that they just got to sign a contract giving there company a percentage of the kids earnings for his/her career.
The video shows all of their highlights against what type of opponent (who cares)
The kid looks good.
Just double checking that on the video there are no missed tackles, dropped balls etc.
I can see how that’s better than getting a person to go out and observe with their eyes if a kid has in their opinion what is required to be a chance to make the top grade.
I am of the older generation so maybe it just me living in the past 🤷‍♂️

I’d sat the video footage is the starting point to determine if there is interest.

 

[happy_tiger]

Let me think about this 🤔
A management company sends the club a highlights video of a young kid that they just got to sign a contract giving there company a percentage of the kids earnings for his/her career.
The video shows all of their highlights against what type of opponent (who cares)
The kid looks good.
Just double checking that on the video there are no missed tackles, dropped balls etc.
I can see how that’s better than getting a person to go out and observe with their eyes if a kid has in their opinion what is required to be a chance to make the top grade.
I am of the older generation so maybe it just me living in the past 🤷‍♂️

I've always said and thought it's what you DONT see in a video that is important to making a recruitment decision

The 4 missed tackles , wasted try opportunities , not working well with with the team in attack and defence, spotting opposition flaws , taking bad options etc

You don't see that in a highlights package

 

[Tiger_claws]

Must admit I haven’t seen much of Schiller, have no idea of his defensive abilities, but he has some pace and that's something Skelton doesn't have.

Who knows, the change of scenery and new defensive coach could improve any issues.

Lets see Schiller bring the ball out of our end. People also saying Schiller can cover multiple positions, really? In what grade? Jeral is no superstar but he is far superior to Schiller. Terrible decision

 

[Vicious]

Lets see Schiller bring the ball out of our end. People also saying Schiller can cover multiple positions, really? In what grade? Jeral is no superstar but he is far superior to Schiller. Terrible decision

Schiller has played much more centre than he has wing.
Skelton was purely a winger only.
Schiller is a much better attacking right centre than what Herbert is if we have Averillo out injured or playing another position.
Skelton was a big body who was generally good with his yardage carries and a good finisher when given opportunities in our red zone, but didn’t have much pace, was very limited with his aerial leap, so not really at attacking option with the high ball.
Schiller is tall, fast and athletic, hisssheer speed would be another player who can score and sssist in scoring long range tries and is tall and athleticism would be a ge one target and option to chase high balls and be a ge one chance of leaping over his opponents to create try scoring opportunities or score tries.
Newcastle and the Dolphins were not better than us in the forwards, but both made the last 4 based on their genuine speed and attacking weapons.
If we have learnt anything, surely it is to ensure we include some players with genuine speed and attacking x-factor to at least be capable of worrying our opponents and being able to make long range line breaks and score long range tries.

 

[Nasser]

Schiller has played much more centre than he has wing.
Skelton was purely a winger only.
Schiller is a much better attacking right centre than what Herbert is if we have Averillo onion playing another position.
Skelton was a big body who was generally good with his yardage carries and a good finisher when given opportunities in our red zone, but didn’t have much pace, was very limited with his aerial leap, so not really at attacking option with the high ball.
Schiller is tall, fast and athletic, hisssheer speed would be another player who can score and sssist in scoring long range tries and is tall and athleticism would be a ge one target and option to chase high balls and be a ge one chance of leaping over his opponents to create try scoring opportunities or score tries.
Newcastle and the Dolphins were not better than us in the forwards, but both made the last 4 based on their genuine speed and attacking weapons.
If we have learnt anything, surely it is to ensure we include some players with genuine speed and attacking x-factor to at least be capable of worrying our opponents and being able to make long range line breaks and score long range tries.

I agree with much of your post, but the Knights forwards a lot stronger than ours.

FRF - Saifiti / Mooney / Hopgood / Saul
2RF - Lucas / Manuela / McEwan / Can't
Lock - Croker / Frizzel

Not sure any of our forwards start in that pack.

 

[Vicious]

I agree with much of your post, but the Knights forwards a lot stronger than ours.

FRF - Saifiti / Mooney / Hopgood / Saul
2RF - Lucas / Manuela / McEwan / Can't
Lock - Croker / Frizzel

Not sure any of our forwards start in that pack.

At or close to their best I would definitely have Terrell May, Fonua Pole and Alex Twal in that 6 man middle forward rotation and Sione Fainu would probably be included also.
Jacob Saifiti and Trey Mooney would both have to be included and then it’s a flip of the coin between MatcCrokercand Sione Fainu. I think Sione is a better player, but Mat Croker has developed a nice passing game when used as the 1st receiver style of 13. It’s very debatable if Mat Croker is a better 13 than Alex Seyfarth, to be honest I think Seyfarth has a bit more steel about his game.
The edge back rowers are very even as the Knights trio of McEwan, Manuleilua and Lucas all have good explosive speed, but our 2 in Samuela Fainu and KPP at their best probably have a slightly better all round game.
The Knights are far superior to us at fullback, in the centres and on the wings.
We can’t do much about closing the gap at fullback except hope that Bula steps up his game in 2027.
The inclusion of Averillo, hoping that Makasini starts living up to his potential on the wing, hoping Turuva has a much more productive season in 2027 and hoping Taylan May can stay relatively injury free in 2028 would hopefully see us close the gap with the big difference in the backline, but it’s equally as important to have good quality depth to add competition for NRL positions and be good cover when we have injuries.
Personally I think we need 2 good quality outside backs to ensure this happens, but 1 would be better than none.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Lets see Schiller bring the ball out of our end. People also saying Schiller can cover multiple positions, really? In what grade? Jeral is no superstar but he is far superior to Schiller. Terrible decision

That's the forum for ya, opinions vary, I will hold back judgement till he plays for us if he signs.