Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

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I am lost … We as a club are making a profits and record members, Corporate $$$ etc... but the clubs with salary cap problems, Dis-functional Boards just keep signing Rep players like it is nothing.. Surely I am not the only one that is pissed off
Sharks are a good example - Salary cap problems and they must be decent for the NRL to take this long are still able to sign SJ and linked to Marty T, Johnson from Souths etc...
As a league fan that is losing interest in the game because the system is floored and NRL don't care. These TPA should be capped or scrapped as far as I am concerned because you have a few teams that run out each week with like 10+ rep players and other teams can only afford a few because they are doing the right thing... Roosters won the comp this year and most teams who win the comp generally lose players but not them.. They lost a few but replaced them with more quality players..
Sorry had to get this off my chest... Rant over.

I have often wondered the same thing. You look at the Dogs after their cap woes who can sign new players, as can the sharks, even the Knights were in dire shape not too long ago and then you see the Tigers who seem to be perennially up against it.

But then you look at the glamour clubs like the Storm, the Broncos and the Roosters. Success Is an expectation rather than bonus and you say What’s the difference?

I think the difference is that some clubs (e.g. Dogs, Sharks and Knights) gear for short term success in the hope it will bring long term prosperity. The so-called glamour clubs run it as a business and build their success on stronger financial and strategic underpinnings.

I think the Tigers tried the former, ended up in a whole heap of cap trouble and have made the decision to move toward the latter. It might not provide the instant gratification we so desire but it should sustain us for the longer term.

Now, before this is shot down by those who claim we haven’t had finals success since 2011, I would say that it has only been 18 months since we addressed our cap issues.

I would say the future looks a whole lot brighter than it did
 
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Gagai is going nowhere,he always wanted to be with Inglis , seems this site is losing credibility bigtime which is unfortunate because there are some here who post good stuff , wotever happened to Sully and Stevo?

Yep this forum is slipping, maybe a lot of new young posters. They tend to believe everything written/shown on social media.

However, like them, I am still optimistic of jagging one or two more signings. Got no idea who though.

Yeah, you guys are right. Things were so much better when Tiger Torch used to regularly post on here.

Does anyone have any idea what happened to Snake?
 
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I am lost … We as a club are making a profits and record members, Corporate $$$ etc... but the clubs with salary cap problems, Dis-functional Boards just keep signing Rep players like it is nothing.. Surely I am not the only one that is pissed off
Sharks are a good example - Salary cap problems and they must be decent for the NRL to take this long are still able to sign SJ and linked to Marty T, Johnson from Souths etc...
As a league fan that is losing interest in the game because the system is floored and NRL don't care. These TPA should be capped or scrapped as far as I am concerned because you have a few teams that run out each week with like 10+ rep players and other teams can only afford a few because they are doing the right thing... Roosters won the comp this year and most teams who win the comp generally lose players but not them.. They lost a few but replaced them with more quality players..
Sorry had to get this off my chest... Rant over.

I have often wondered the same thing. You look at the Dogs after their cap woes who can sign new players, as can the sharks, even the Knights were in dire shape not too long ago and then you see the Tigers who seem to be perennially up against it.

But then you look at the glamour clubs like the Storm, the Broncos and the Roosters. Success Is an expectation rather than bonus and you say What’s the difference?

I think the difference is that some clubs (e.g. Dogs, Sharks and Knights) gear for short term success in the hope it will bring long term prosperity. The so-called glamour clubs run it as a business and build their success on stronger financial and strategic underpinnings.

I think the Tigers tried the former, ended up in a whole heap of cap trouble and have made the decision to move toward the latter. It might not provide the instant gratification we so desire but it should sustain us for the longer term.

Now, before this is shot down by those who claim we haven’t had finals success since 2011, I would say that it has only been 18 months since we addressed our cap issues.

I would say the future looks a whole lot brighter than it did

Good post. I agree honestly. I like how we are going off the field. The way they handled the Clearly situation where we got a premiership coach paid in part by panthers out it is a great thing. Too long we were diabolic with our roster and off the field. I'm actually optimistic for the first time in years. Not so much in results. In the fact that people see the Tigers as a team going ahead in leaps and bounds..

Success will come soon…
 
We've made the finals 3 times in 20 years. That's why players are reluctant to join us.

If we could make the finals in back to back years that, on top of our success off the field could see us become a big club. Nothing will change though until we start making the finals
 
I don’t care who we’re chasing even if we’re not chasing anyone.
As long as we have Brooks signed on, we’re almost there, we have a good forward pack with Musgrove and Matterson joining the pack.
Momirovski and Mikaele, Reynolds and Farah/Liddle playing a lot of first grade.
Also the likes of a fit Packer,Rochow or McQueen stepping up and showing their stripes, we could have a good chance at making the semis
Go the Tigers.
 
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Honestly im happy with our 2019 squad just need another putside back

We need at a minimum another 2 big and fast outside backs. We cannot go into the season with the extreme lack of pace we have. It is now 2/12/2018 and new signings cannot be delayed.
 
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I am lost … We as a club are making a profits and record members, Corporate $$$ etc... but the clubs with salary cap problems, Dis-functional Boards just keep signing Rep players like it is nothing.. Surely I am not the only one that is pissed off
Sharks are a good example - Salary cap problems and they must be decent for the NRL to take this long are still able to sign SJ and linked to Marty T, Johnson from Souths etc...
As a league fan that is losing interest in the game because the system is floored and NRL don't care. These TPA should be capped or scrapped as far as I am concerned because you have a few teams that run out each week with like 10+ rep players and other teams can only afford a few because they are doing the right thing... Roosters won the comp this year and most teams who win the comp generally lose players but not them.. They lost a few but replaced them with more quality players..
Sorry had to get this off my chest... Rant over.

I have often wondered the same thing. You look at the Dogs after their cap woes who can sign new players, as can the sharks, even the Knights were in dire shape not too long ago and then you see the Tigers who seem to be perennially up against it.

But then you look at the glamour clubs like the Storm, the Broncos and the Roosters. Success Is an expectation rather than bonus and you say What’s the difference?

I think the difference is that some clubs (e.g. Dogs, Sharks and Knights) gear for short term success in the hope it will bring long term prosperity. The so-called glamour clubs run it as a business and build their success on stronger financial and strategic underpinnings.

I think the Tigers tried the former, ended up in a whole heap of cap trouble and have made the decision to move toward the latter. It might not provide the instant gratification we so desire but it should sustain us for the longer term.

Now, before this is shot down by those who claim we haven’t had finals success since 2011, I would say that it has only been 18 months since we addressed our cap issues.

I would say the future looks a whole lot brighter than it did

Good post. I agree honestly. I like how we are going off the field. The way they handled the Clearly situation where we got a premiership coach paid in part by panthers out it is a great thing. Too long we were diabolic with our roster and off the field. I'm actually optimistic for the first time in years. Not so much in results. In the fact that people see the Tigers as a team going ahead in leaps and bounds..

Success will come soon…

It's great to have a stable board and be in the black financially. Those at Concord HQ should really be applauded here. It is no small feat making an NRL profitable. Particularly without the big backers that the Broncos, Melbourne, Roosters, Penrith have.
Players will come to a stable club. We haven't been in this position for very long. We have a solid roster without any stand out players. I'm not worried by the amount of rumours of players linked to the WTs that are being circulated on social media. Its all part of the business of modern sport.
 
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We've made the finals 3 times in 20 years. That's why players are reluctant to join us.

If we could make the finals in back to back years that, on top of our success off the field could see us become a big club. Nothing will change though until we start making the finals

EXACTLY, once we start performing on the field players will want to come here in droves, but first we have to start playing good strong consistent football :sign:
 
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Like 2010/11..oh..

Ancient history. We need to stop looking back and start living in the present.

The point was made if we start making finals in back to back years players would be lining up to come here well we did that and the queue was very short..It actually started our worst recruitment period in the Clubs history..
 
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The lurker says there's rumours we are after Gagai. Wouldn't be surprising considering Gagai joined the Rabbitohs to be coached by McGuire.

Gagai would be an enormous pick-up but how much credence can on give to so many rumours which have gone south.

Gagai already went south. No hope fortunately.
 
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I am lost … We as a club are making a profits and record members, Corporate $$$ etc... but the clubs with salary cap problems, Dis-functional Boards just keep signing Rep players like it is nothing.. Surely I am not the only one that is pissed off
Sharks are a good example - Salary cap problems and they must be decent for the NRL to take this long are still able to sign SJ and linked to Marty T, Johnson from Souths etc...
As a league fan that is losing interest in the game because the system is floored and NRL don't care. These TPA should be capped or scrapped as far as I am concerned because you have a few teams that run out each week with like 10+ rep players and other teams can only afford a few because they are doing the right thing... Roosters won the comp this year and most teams who win the comp generally lose players but not them.. They lost a few but replaced them with more quality players..
Sorry had to get this off my chest... Rant over.

I have often wondered the same thing. You look at the Dogs after their cap woes who can sign new players, as can the sharks, even the Knights were in dire shape not too long ago and then you see the Tigers who seem to be perennially up against it.

But then you look at the glamour clubs like the Storm, the Broncos and the Roosters. Success Is an expectation rather than bonus and you say What’s the difference?

I think the difference is that some clubs (e.g. Dogs, Sharks and Knights) gear for short term success in the hope it will bring long term prosperity. The so-called glamour clubs run it as a business and build their success on stronger financial and strategic underpinnings.

I think the Tigers tried the former, ended up in a whole heap of cap trouble and have made the decision to move toward the latter. It might not provide the instant gratification we so desire but it should sustain us for the longer term.

Now, before this is shot down by those who claim we haven’t had finals success since 2011, I would say that it has only been 18 months since we addressed our cap issues.

I would say the future looks a whole lot brighter than it did

Good post. I agree honestly. I like how we are going off the field. The way they handled the Clearly situation where we got a premiership coach paid in part by panthers out it is a great thing. Too long we were diabolic with our roster and off the field. I'm actually optimistic for the first time in years. Not so much in results. In the fact that people see the Tigers as a team going ahead in leaps and bounds..

Success will come soon…

x2 - good measured post. I'm getting a bit sick of people pointing to clubs like Roosters or Sharks and saying "it's not fair, they are rorting the system."

Maybe they are, maybe they are not. But if they are, why aren't we rorting the system as well as them - if it's so easy, so capable of being rorted?

People also have mighty short memories, because between 2005 and 2012 Roosters only made the finals twice (out of 8 seasons), during which Tigers won a comp and had two very good finals runs 2010-2011.

Same as Sharks between 2003 and 2013\. Broncos, for all the acknowledgement of being a powerhouse club, haven't won a comp in the last 12 tilts.

Tigers have had fairly sustained lack of success yes, but we have also been a fairly unsuccessful business over the past 20 years. We tried several approaches to winning a comp, one worked and one almost (should have) worked, the rest failed abysmally. The current mgmt have a new approach and in regards to off-field, it seems to be heading in the right direction.

But if you just look at short-term roster changes at very specific clubs, you are totally missing the bigger picture.
 
The real down turn in our hopes of success was when we got rid of Sheens. I’m not suggesting it was the wrong decision, but it seems every coach appointment since was the wrong one.

Sheens brought stability at least. He was here for how long? Ten years?

Sheens, Potter, Taylor, Webster, Cleary ….. now Maguire.

The sixth coach in seven years. Ok, we’ve been paupers in that time but no club can have success with merry-go-round of coaches.

Sweet talking Cleary took me hook, line and sinker as I thought he was in for the long haul. Now we start again with another new coach. Even if we don’t make the finals for the next three years I would re-sign Maguire if he moulds a competitive team who just misses the semis each of those years.

No, I don’t accept mediocrity, I accept reality. This team won’t be fully Maguire’s for another three years. We desperately need coaching stability.
 
Tend to think coaching stability is a thing of the past.
The only coaches that keep their jobs are the successful ones - continued success.
If Maguire doesnt make some impact within three years he is no guarantee of being here, and if he does he may get poached by someone who is prepared to pay whatever it takes.
 
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Like 2010/11..oh..

Ancient history. We need to stop looking back and start living in the present.

The point was made if we start making finals in back to back years players would be lining up to come here well we did that and the queue was very short..It actually started our worst recruitment period in the Clubs history..

Lost a lot of handy forwards in 2011/2012

Payten , Gibbs , Ellis , Fifita , Simon Dwyer , Rhino , Dame Nellie Skandalis finally retired
 
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Like 2010/11..oh..

Ancient history. We need to stop looking back and start living in the present.

The point was made if we start making finals in back to back years players would be lining up to come here well we did that and the queue was very short..It actually started our worst recruitment period in the Clubs history..

Didn’t we sign guys like Ellis, Galloway, Tuquiri, Blair around that period.
They were pretty big names at the time.
 

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