Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

I’m just glad I didn’t bash Taylor for years, then fawn over Cleary the moment he took over, only for him to dog the club. Egg meet face.
 
@Wounded_magpie
I sense a bluff move. Either Storm let him go and we get him, or more likely they lock him up at a premium and Maguire gets another Storm target he has in his sights. I have no inside info, just a hunch on my part.
 
Far out who cares

Maguire is here now


Perhaps visit this thread for the egg...

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/30065/the-wests-tigers-lament-thread/81
 
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061304) said:
Far out who cares

Maguire is here now


Perhaps visit this thread for the egg...

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/30065/the-wests-tigers-lament-thread/81

Might need to pin that thread...
 
@Tiger_Steve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061306) said:
Can anyone put some facts around the rumour if Twal maybe off to play with Dr Evil and mini me at Penrith?


Hadn’t heard this anywhere but on this forum Steve but I’m sure Matto won’t let that happen.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061301) said:
I’m just glad I didn’t bash Taylor for years, then fawn over Cleary the moment he took over, only for him to dog the club. Egg meet face.



Lol you defended Taylor relentlessly for the length of his contact.

In the end he was proven a rubbish coach as everyone who disagreed with you tried to point out.

Nice claim on that higher ground lol
 
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061304) said:
Far out who cares

Maguire is here now


Perhaps visit this thread for the egg...

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/30065/the-wests-tigers-lament-thread/81



Can you provide a link for that Brooks thread. i been searching for it.

Egg
 
@The_Patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061311) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061301) said:
I’m just glad I didn’t bash Taylor for years, then fawn over Cleary the moment he took over, only for him to dog the club. Egg meet face.



Lol you defended Taylor relentlessly for the length of his contact.

In the end he was proven a rubbish coach as everyone who disagreed with you tried to point out.

Nice claim on that higher ground lol

Who cares. Patting yourself on the back over something that happened 4 years ago when we’ve just failed under our 4th coach in a row to play finals. As it stands, none of those 4 have delivered better results than their predacessor
 
@BalmainJnr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061310) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061306) said:
Can anyone put some facts around the rumour if Twal maybe off to play with Dr Evil and mini me at Penrith?


Hadn’t heard this anywhere but on this forum Steve but I’m sure Matto won’t let that happen.


Thinking same. Was mentioned here but I’ve not heard anything from journos etc.
 
If we release Twal and have Packer and Matulino on the books next year, then this club deserves to finish 9th for the rest of eternity.
 
@Kazoo-Kid Every club can have up to six development players per year. Zac Cini becomes a development player for 2020. I believe all of this years development players were signed on 3 year deals, the same as Dylan Smith the year before and Simpkins (1 year dev/ 2 year NRL) and Hoffman (2 year dev/ 1 year NRL) starting next year.
 
@Tiger_Steve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061306) said:
Can anyone put some facts around the rumour if Twal maybe off to play with Dr Evil and mini me at Penrith?

Fake news.
 
@Kazoo-Kid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061292) said:
@Harvey said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061282) said:
@Kazoo-Kid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061230) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061205) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061203) said:
How many players do we have signed for next year?

25 + 3 development players in Kane Bradley, Henry Lealuga-Puhotau, Jock Madden. Brings us to 28 if they move into the top 30 next season (can't remember how development contracts work with top 30)

So far we have 3 development players for 2020 in Reece Hoffman, Henry Lealuga-Puhotau and Jake Simpkin. We are allowed 2 more development players.

According to his profile page on the WT site, Kane Bradley "is signed through at Wests Tigers until the end of the 2021 season." What that entails is vague. I'm assuming he will be upgraded to the top 30 for 2020-2021.

Jock Madden is off contract, from what I can tell. He turns 20 next year so it seems a bit too early to give up on him. Dunno what they'll do there as those five development spots are invaluable and should be used in an effort to secure the best, young talent as early as possible.

How do these "development" contracts work? I know that the players can play NRL after June 30, but do they have to be upgraded to the top 30 within some set time period? We have spots in our top 30 now being taken up by Smith, McIntyre and Seyfarth who are unlikely to play NRL in the next 2 years. Why did we upgrade them, particularly on multi year deals when they have shown nothing to suggest that they are close to NRl standard?

* They can play NRL after June 30 without being in the top 30.
* Players on development contracts have no restrictions on training and things the club can do for them. Basically, they can do everything a top 30 player can do except actually play NRL (while applying the above).

Unsure what else a development contract provides.

Dev contracts basically allow top youngsters to be full time and avoid the mandatory training /education requirements that flegg players have. So they can develop faster. And can play nrl 2/3 the way through the season.

A club decides how long the dev contract is either one or two years usually. Players like talau, madden, Bradley and seyfarth were in one year dev contracts and 2 year nrl deals. But we upgraded talau and seyfarth a few months early to save some cash.
Next year there's already 4 dev players : simpkin, Cini, lealuga puhotau and hoffman.

The problem with Dev contracts is if they're the wrong player you end up wasting nrl spots for a couple of years. It's basically gambling on high schoolers. Players like McIntyre, Smith and Gibbs were poor choices as there's limited first grade prospects. Mikaele we got 100% right, give him a year training full time then chuck him in nrl.

Interestingly other clubs have used these contracts for players who've played nrl and use them as emergency backups for the first grade spine. The Roosters with Drew Hutchison for example.
 
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061331) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061306) said:
Can anyone put some facts around the rumour if Twal maybe off to play with Dr Evil and mini me at Penrith?

Fake news.

No way in hell would Twal want to play under Cleary again. Twal's minutes tanked so hard last year. He was even dropped to reserve grade at one point.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061337) said:
@Kazoo-Kid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061292) said:
@Harvey said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061282) said:
@Kazoo-Kid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061230) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061205) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1061203) said:
How many players do we have signed for next year?

25 + 3 development players in Kane Bradley, Henry Lealuga-Puhotau, Jock Madden. Brings us to 28 if they move into the top 30 next season (can't remember how development contracts work with top 30)

So far we have 3 development players for 2020 in Reece Hoffman, Henry Lealuga-Puhotau and Jake Simpkin. We are allowed 2 more development players.

According to his profile page on the WT site, Kane Bradley "is signed through at Wests Tigers until the end of the 2021 season." What that entails is vague. I'm assuming he will be upgraded to the top 30 for 2020-2021.

Jock Madden is off contract, from what I can tell. He turns 20 next year so it seems a bit too early to give up on him. Dunno what they'll do there as those five development spots are invaluable and should be used in an effort to secure the best, young talent as early as possible.

How do these "development" contracts work? I know that the players can play NRL after June 30, but do they have to be upgraded to the top 30 within some set time period? We have spots in our top 30 now being taken up by Smith, McIntyre and Seyfarth who are unlikely to play NRL in the next 2 years. Why did we upgrade them, particularly on multi year deals when they have shown nothing to suggest that they are close to NRl standard?

* They can play NRL after June 30 without being in the top 30.
* Players on development contracts have no restrictions on training and things the club can do for them. Basically, they can do everything a top 30 player can do except actually play NRL (while applying the above).

Unsure what else a development contract provides.

Dev contracts basically allow top youngsters to be full time and avoid the mandatory training /education requirements that flegg players have. So they can develop faster. And can play nrl 2/3 the way through the season.

A club decides how long the dev contract is either one or two years usually. Players like talau, madden, Bradley and seyfarth were in one year dev contracts and 2 year nrl deals. But we upgraded talau and seyfarth a few months early to save some cash.
Next year there's already 4 dev players : simpkin, Cini, lealuga puhotau and hoffman.

The problem with Dev contracts is if they're the wrong player you end up wasting nrl spots for a couple of years. It's basically gambling on high schoolers. Players like McIntyre, Smith and Gibbs were poor choices as there's limited first grade prospects. Mikaele we got 100% right, give him a year training full time then chuck him in nrl.

Interestingly other clubs have used these contracts for players who've played nrl and use them as emergency backups for the first grade spine. The Roosters with Drew Hutchison for example.

Cheers mate. Mikaele was a huge score. McIntyre, from the same year, not so much. These dev contracts are huge gambles and could backfire massively if they don't pick a guy with the right attitude, or if the player just doesn't come on like you thought he would.
 
@balmain-boy don’t have much hope for Hoffman, not writing him off because I’ve only watched the state of origin u18’s game but he didn’t shine from a bunch that were all dominating. Not sure, anyone have more info on him?
 
The Wests Tigers are preparing to open the cheque book in a bid to sign the young gun superstar they let slip 18 months ago — Melbourne Storm fullback Ryan Papenhuyzen.
Still licking their wounds after finishing ninth for the sixth time in the joint venture club’s history, the Tigers are preparing to try and land the signature of the player let go in a bid to retain James Tedesco.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/exclusive-wests-tigers-target-storm-star-ryan-papenhuyzen-two-years-after-james-tedesco-jumped-to-the-roosters/news-story/42ba3cb81feed177f49f29db9baa561d .
 
@pawsandclaws1
There was a fox sports article regarding Souths players farewelled in their final match and he was on the list next to Billy Brittain.
Both would be worth it.
 

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