Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Russell]

How about Cody Walker at fullback? He has kicked 10/12 goals and played 17 games at fullback for the Rabbits. He seems to be down on confidence since SOO and the change of team and roll might suit him. I am not sure about his 1 on 1 defence but offers a lot in attack.

We need to recruit a specialist fullback. His defence is ordinary and fullback is no position for someone short of confidence.

His defence is atrocious - and if people think LM has an attitude problem!

This guy wrote the book.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Idk how many people realise Walker is 30. He debuted at 26. I wouldn’t want a bar of him personally.

 

[Tiger5150]

Souths should have 360k taken out of their cap for the next 10 years. That's if they don't want a million a year for the next few years

I thought if you were medically retired the player got his money per year as per contract and the money no longer counted in the salary cap

So why than does Burgess have to work 10 years in the office to get his money?

Am I missing something?

Yes, though it is all a massive grey area.

You can be medically retired by the insurance company, or the NRL itself. If Insurance covers a player's wage by medical retirement then the club doesn't have to pay it out, and it gets excluded in the cap.

I've recently learnt that the Chief Medical Officer of the NRL can also retire players, but the club still has to pay their contracts in full, unless insurance declares him unfit to return etc. ***It's not 100% clear what happens with salary when the NRL 'medically retires' a player***, the NRL seems to be able to negotiate terms to a degree. But given the rumour of Souths offering him a 10 year deal worth 3.6 million in an off field role this is their way of ensuring he gets paid in full, via a revised payment plan of sorts. It is his playing contract they're paying him and thus they spread it out to soften the blow.

It is 100% clear, the NRL has a clear written rule about it. They have to prove it wasnt a pre-existing condition, that it was a new unique career ending injury and it has to be able to be shown to have happened at a particular moment in a specific game during the term of his current contract.

Clear rules. Burgess had had 2 previous reconstructions on that shoulder before his last contract.

 

[851]

Geo thought we had him

http://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby-league/in-demand-arrow-heading-to-souths-report/ar-BBXI4xb?ocid=ientp

I think he is a bad buy for souths, Arrow is a lock, and they have Murray, Luciano Leilua would have been a better pick for them to replace Sutton, I don't think Arrow will excel on an edge, but it's souths, the NRL will make it work for them


Goes alright at prop too

Too small for prop, he is a lock, and a good one

The role of the lock and a prop these days are interchangeable, so it shouldn't affect his performances that much.

Would you put Cameron Murray at prop, same thing

 

[the_third]

Souths should have 360k taken out of their cap for the next 10 years. That's if they don't want a million a year for the next few years

I thought if you were medically retired the player got his money per year as per contract and the money no longer counted in the salary cap

So why than does Burgess have to work 10 years in the office to get his money?

Am I missing something?

Yes, though it is all a massive grey area.

You can be medically retired by the insurance company, or the NRL itself. If Insurance covers a player's wage by medical retirement then the club doesn't have to pay it out, and it gets excluded in the cap.

I've recently learnt that the Chief Medical Officer of the NRL can also retire players, but the club still has to pay their contracts in full, unless insurance declares him unfit to return etc. ***It's not 100% clear what happens with salary when the NRL 'medically retires' a player***, the NRL seems to be able to negotiate terms to a degree. But given the rumour of Souths offering him a 10 year deal worth 3.6 million in an off field role this is their way of ensuring he gets paid in full, via a revised payment plan of sorts. It is his playing contract they're paying him and thus they spread it out to soften the blow.

It is 100% clear, the NRL has a clear written rule about it. They have to prove it wasnt a pre-existing condition, that it was a new unique career ending injury and it has to be able to be shown to have happened at a particular moment in a specific game during the term of his current contract.

Clear rules. Burgess had had 2 previous reconstructions on that shoulder before his last contract.

Career ending is the key. It’s an 18 month injury

 

[Ponyo]

Zac Lomax is set to sign the longest deal in St George Illawarra history after agreeing to a monster six-year contract.

The in-demand Lomax, 20, has rejected interest from a host of clubs, including Wests Tigers and Canberra, for a deal worth about $3 million in a massive show of faith for the struggling Dragons.

It is understood the final year of the multi-year deal is an option in Lomax’s favour.

The length of the contract is only matched in Dragons history by the one to land halfback Ben Hunt from Brisbane two years ago. Hunt’s original deal was five years and an option for a sixth.

Lomax was already contracted until the end of next season but was one of the most in-demand players in the competition having long been earmarked as a first grade star.

The interest in him comes despite the goalkicker having played just 17 top-grade games since making his NRL debut last year.

Lomax, whose partner Jessica Sergis is a star in her own right with the Dragons’ NRLW side, will have an opportunity to press ahead with his goal of being the club’s first-choice fullback.

While club officials are unsure whether Lomax’s long-term future is in the No.1 jersey or in the centres, Dragons coach Paul McGregor will give him first crack at fullback this year.

“It’s good that (McGregor has) got confidence in me,” Lomax said this week. “Hopefully, the playing group’s got confidence in me as well.

“I’ll make sure I try and get that from them by just showing them I can work hard and put in the effort on the training paddock so I get that respect.

“I think if you can bring a good work rate to the team and you bring effort and you compete on each play, I think that can go a long way as a fullback.

“You look at someone like Charzne Nicoll-Klokstad. He’s fresh to the NRL but you look at what he brought to his team week in, week out. He competed on everything.”

Lomax rose through Illawarra’s junior ranks, representing the Australian Schoolboys and under-18s NSW before being picked in the Prime Minister’s XIII side last year.

St George Illawarra’s two centres, Tim Lafai and Euan Aitken, are off contract at the end of the season.

With Lomax signed, the Dragons will now focus on retaining Kangaroos back-rower Tyson Frizell.

The contracts of Frizell, James Graham, Jacob Host, Mikaele Ravalawa and new recruit Issac Luke expire at the end of next year.

The Dragons’ latest signing Trent Merrin joined the side this week, while St George Illawarra are also pursuing Catalans outside back Brayden Wiliame.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Praise the lord, we can stop reading that guy’s name 20 times a day.

 

[the_third]

His manager should get the boot. What 20yr old would sign a 6 year contract at 500K to play fullback.

 

[avocadoontoast]

His manager should get the boot. What 20yr old would sign a 6 year contract at 500K to play fullback.

He should get a reward. He’s not worth that much.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Matt Moylan come on down!

 

[krissy]

It isn’t exactly like a contract actually is binding or means anything in the current NRL

 

[851]

So we miss another target, this is getting to be a major issue

 

[hsvjones]

Another one gone..... Gees we will end up with all this cash and no one to spend it on :man-shrugging: :man-shrugging:
I would rather us up the LM offer then spend cash on Moylan...
Broncos look like they are happy to keep Milf so this is getting very bare....

 

[Tiger_Steve]

So we miss another target, this is getting to be a major issue

It’s been an issue for years. And there’s no sign it’s changing. Despite all the talk and bluster. Our current top 17 is very very average.

 

[Viking Warrior]

We aren't having any luck in our recruitment drive, surely we just wait it out instead of blowing our cash on Moylan. What a let down that would be

 

[Holman Barnes #1 Fan]

With Zac Lomax out of the equation, looks like we'll all be talking about Matt Moylan for the next wee while. Enjoy. lol.

 

[Tiger5150]

Souths should have 360k taken out of their cap for the next 10 years. That's if they don't want a million a year for the next few years

I thought if you were medically retired the player got his money per year as per contract and the money no longer counted in the salary cap

So why than does Burgess have to work 10 years in the office to get his money?

Am I missing something?

Yes, though it is all a massive grey area.

You can be medically retired by the insurance company, or the NRL itself. If Insurance covers a player's wage by medical retirement then the club doesn't have to pay it out, and it gets excluded in the cap.

I've recently learnt that the Chief Medical Officer of the NRL can also retire players, but the club still has to pay their contracts in full, unless insurance declares him unfit to return etc. ***It's not 100% clear what happens with salary when the NRL 'medically retires' a player***, the NRL seems to be able to negotiate terms to a degree. But given the rumour of Souths offering him a 10 year deal worth 3.6 million in an off field role this is their way of ensuring he gets paid in full, via a revised payment plan of sorts. It is his playing contract they're paying him and thus they spread it out to soften the blow.

It is 100% clear, the NRL has a clear written rule about it. They have to prove it wasnt a pre-existing condition, that it was a new unique career ending injury and it has to be able to be shown to have happened at a particular moment in a specific game during the term of his current contract.

Clear rules. Burgess had had 2 previous reconstructions on that shoulder before his last contract.

Career ending is the key. It’s an 18 month injury

I agree with you but that is the icing on the cake. There is nothing about the situation that meets the criteria.

 

[avocadoontoast]

With Zac Lomax out of the equation, looks like we'll all be talking about Matt Moylan for the next wee while. Enjoy. lol.

If Moylan turns us down we’ll be talking Alex Johnston and Matt Dufty

 

[HabboTiger]

Overs now but who knows about the future, could be a great deal and massive unders. I wouldn’t sign a 6 year deal at this rate.