Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[happy_tiger]

You lock your good players up full stop. Before him Korobeite left and after JAC Papenhuyzen went. These are franchise players who bring the crowd and bucks into the club. Too late now..

Doueihi gonna be the next player we regret tigers not keeping when we had the chance.


I think there’s so much pressure on coaches to get results quickly that too much focus is on the experienced player market. We should only buy players if we have no one in our lower grades to promote. Madge appears to be thinking like Sheens . It’s the only way to play consistent finals footy. Maybe that’s why he can foster that vital teamwork required to win games?


Classic example? The Eels were so focussed on the player market that they lost one of their best prospects ever. Madge can obviously recognise this lack of promotion from within at other clubs too. imo

Still comes down to getting the 17 individuals that will blend as a solid unit

It would be nice to become a premiership force overnight ... but realistically just making the 8 in the short term from where we currently are would be nice

 

[Roar_Power]

You lock your good players up full stop. Before him Korobeite left and after JAC Papenhuyzen went. These are franchise players who bring the crowd and bucks into the club. Too late now..

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. No way Paps was a franchise player when at the Tigers...

 

[tiga4eva]

When we stop failing. They got off Parra and Manly and the Dogs back.... We're an easy target, our Club has the longest Semi final drought in the NRL. Even the Titans have played Semis a few years ago. Only one way to silence the Media, actually recruit well and win. Something we don't usually do.
That's the reality of where we are and why there's been so much outrage this off season.

 

[earl]

You lock your good players up full stop. Before him Korobeite left and after JAC Papenhuyzen went. These are franchise players who bring the crowd and bucks into the club. Too late now..

That is a bit over the top. Neither of these guys are franchise players. I don't even think those players exist in rugby league.

We still haven't recovered from their losses. Disgraceful retention and the club deserves to wear the black eye and answer why Taylor and Potter were put in charge of coaching.

Losing those guys was nothing compared to losing Tedesco. We've also definitely recovered. We aren't doing any worse since those guys left.

 

[stevied]

Question first - does anyone know if Wests Tigers are definitely in discussions with Doueihi and his management and/or Souths or is it all just conjecture?

If we are negotiating then we should definitely go in hard. I watched him in the semis last year and he was outstanding. It doesn't seem to be a flash in the pan because he did this in the pressure cooker of the playoffs. Therefore, he has talent and he copes with pressure. He is young, a Tigers junior who excelled at that level and he wants to play first grade in a position that we need bolstering. He ticks the boxes of a ball playing fullback and a possible replacement for Benji in 2021. To all those detractors who claim he's too much of a utility, this wasn't a reflection of his lack of mastery of one position, it's more an indication of Souths's needs at the time and the fact that there was a log jam in front of him. Look at Darren Lockyer, started at fullback, where he was brilliant, and ended up being an elite five eighth. While I'm not saying Doueihi will become another Lockyer, I am saying that versatility needn't be a negative.

Now, the cash, 500k is being bandied about and, once again, many people are saying that it's too much, including Pascoe, allegedly. If we get him for 350-400, well and good, but do we spurn the opportunity because 500 is what's required? I'm not sure that's a good idea. Beggars can't be choosers. We have a million to spend, there are 3 spots are available, we sadly lack attacking flair and there aren't many options out there. Why wouldn't you chase him? I say go in hard and make it happen. It will be another missed opportunity that we'll live to regret if we don't.

 

[earl]

@stevied - personally I hope we get AD, AJ and Gagai but there is no way that is happening. At the same time we have to be careful. We went hard when Ivan was here and it was a disaster.

I think AD on 500k is okay considering our position but not a long term contract. 500k for an established half in the comp is worth it. He isn't established but he looks like he could fill that role.

As for your question - it's all conjecture until it's official.

 

[Goldust]

@stevied - personally I hope we get AD, AJ and Gagai but there is no way that is happening. At the same time we have to be careful. We went hard when Ivan was here and it was a disaster.

I think AD on 500k is okay considering our position but not a long term contract. 500k for an established half in the comp is worth it. He isn't established but he looks like he could fill that role.

Yeah I agree,the smartest thing to do in my opinion is just go for the one,that being AD
Sets us up very well for the 2021 season
With this season being one we lay our foundation down with our pack.and maybe resolving our hooker issue

 

[Russell]

Question first - does anyone know if Wests Tigers are definitely in discussions with Doueihi and his management and/or Souths or is it all just conjecture?

If we are negotiating then we should definitely go in hard. I watched him in the semis last year and he was outstanding. It doesn't seem to be a flash in the pan because he did this in the pressure cooker of the playoffs. Therefore, he has talent and he copes with pressure. He is young, a Tigers junior who excelled at that level and he wants to play first grade in a position that we need bolstering. He ticks the boxes of a ball playing fullback and a possible replacement for Benji in 2021. To all those detractors who claim he's too much of a utility, this wasn't a reflection of his lack of mastery of one position, it's more an indication of Souths's needs at the time and the fact that there was a log jam in front of him. Look at Darren Lockyer, started at fullback, where he was brilliant, and ended up being an elite five eighth. While I'm not saying Doueihi will become another Lockyer, I am saying that versatility needn't be a negative.

Now, the cash, 500k is being bandied about and, once again, many people are saying that it's too much, including Pascoe, allegedly. If we get him for 350-400, well and good, but do we spurn the opportunity because 500 is what's required? I'm not sure that's a good idea. Beggars can't be choosers. We have a million to spend, there are 3 spots are available, we sadly lack attacking flair and there aren't many options out there. Why wouldn't you chase him? I say go in hard and make it happen. It will be another missed opportunity that we'll live to regret if we don't.

Souffs have already paid him 25% of his 2020 salary as it is nearly the end of January. That cuts 125k off his price.

Why? wouldn't you grab him for 375k for 2020 .....BARGAIN!!!!!!

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Telegraph reporting Canberra to step negotiations with CROKER WHIGHTON and COTRIC to resign .All three off contract in 2020 cant believe they're not already tied up.We should go in BIG on one of them Raiders would have to be under CAP PRESSURE to hold all three

 

[finnzo]

I tend to agree but I think trying to make south’s pay some is the only logical way to go in to it and the end of the day if they say no then we can pay full freight 100 thousand could be the difference between picking up a quality player mid season and missing out on them

 

[tiger_one]

Question first - does anyone know if Wests Tigers are definitely in discussions with Doueihi and his management and/or Souths or is it all just conjecture?

No leaks these days with our front office acting like a front office.

So who's after what, and for how much, is pure speculation.

 

[happy_tiger]

I am still stunned Doueihi is on 500K. There is NO way Souths are cap compliant if he's on something that insane when they have Gagai, AJ, Walker, Reynolds etc etc etc

Also forgot they brought back Bryson Goodwin. Just collecting backs...

Who said Douehi is on 500 k

Article posted a few pages back. True or not, I don't know, but that's where that came from.

OK ..yeah I highly doubt anyone would be paying 500 k for a fringe player ....well maybe us ...but not a real club

Give it a rest. Why do you bother to support the club?

Because I have a heavy investment ....43 years .....1st year since the WT's I didn't re join as a member

Its about time this club repaid ALL of us for our investments

And lastly it's simple ...don't like my posts , put me on foe or don't read them , no one stuck a gun to your head


Will do. I've been following magpies since 1965 and WT since inception, I too have a big emotional investment in the club. Anyhow I haven't made foes before on forums but I think I'll have to here. Cheers.

Funny how some think they have some God given right to tell others how to support their club


... then support it

I am ...my way

We are going to be in a worse position than we were last season

You want to sit back and accept it fine .......that's not my way

I don't think as fans people realize that the acceptance of this club's crap is half of this club's problem

They know no matter how much they screw things up ...people will keep coming back ......record memberships based on the signing of Luciano Leilua

I'm sure not part of the problem ...look in your own backyard before you piss in mine

Someone needs a snickers...?

No ..lots of stiff drinks game day I'd reckon

 

[stevied]

By the way, I was chatting to an old school mate that I hadn't seen for 41 years on Tuesday. He was always a die hard Roosters supporter and still is. When I corrected the name of his team from Roosters to Rorters he looked at me and smiled. Taking this as encouragement, I pressed him by saying, 'so the Roosters rort the cap by using brown paper bags and creative management to stack their roster?' Once again, he smiled at me and said, 'Of course'.

To further reinforce the argument, I bumped into Warren Wilson on Thursday. We had a general chat first before, once more, I grabbed the opportunity to probe about the state of the game and that it seems to all be set up to support the strong/ favoured clubs to the detriment of clubs like the Tigers. He responded with a nod of his head and said that he felt disenchanted with the game at the moment. He also suggested that Greenberg was out of his depth and heard that NRL Headquarters was full of incompetent employees who did basically nothing.

 

[Geo]

Question first - does anyone know if Wests Tigers are definitely in discussions with Doueihi and his management and/or Souths or is it all just conjecture?

If we are negotiating then we should definitely go in hard. I watched him in the semis last year and he was outstanding. It doesn't seem to be a flash in the pan because he did this in the pressure cooker of the playoffs. Therefore, he has talent and he copes with pressure. He is young, a Tigers junior who excelled at that level and he wants to play first grade in a position that we need bolstering. He ticks the boxes of a ball playing fullback and a possible replacement for Benji in 2021. To all those detractors who claim he's too much of a utility, this wasn't a reflection of his lack of mastery of one position, it's more an indication of Souths's needs at the time and the fact that there was a log jam in front of him. Look at Darren Lockyer, started at fullback, where he was brilliant, and ended up being an elite five eighth. While I'm not saying Doueihi will become another Lockyer, I am saying that versatility needn't be a negative.

Now, the cash, 500k is being bandied about and, once again, many people are saying that it's too much, including Pascoe, allegedly. If we get him for 350-400, well and good, but do we spurn the opportunity because 500 is what's required? I'm not sure that's a good idea. Beggars can't be choosers. We have a million to spend, there are 3 spots are available, we sadly lack attacking flair and there aren't many options out there. Why wouldn't you chase him? I say go in hard and make it happen. It will be another missed opportunity that we'll live to regret if we don't.

Souffs have already paid him 25% of his 2020 salary as it is nearly the end of January. That cuts 125k off his price.

Why? wouldn't you grab him for 375k for 2020 .....BARGAIN!!!!!!

Where do people get this...no it doesn't....If Wests Tigers sign Doueihi what ever contract amount that is agreed to is how much he is paid....

 

[Russell]

Question first - does anyone know if Wests Tigers are definitely in discussions with Doueihi and his management and/or Souths or is it all just conjecture?

If we are negotiating then we should definitely go in hard. I watched him in the semis last year and he was outstanding. It doesn't seem to be a flash in the pan because he did this in the pressure cooker of the playoffs. Therefore, he has talent and he copes with pressure. He is young, a Tigers junior who excelled at that level and he wants to play first grade in a position that we need bolstering. He ticks the boxes of a ball playing fullback and a possible replacement for Benji in 2021. To all those detractors who claim he's too much of a utility, this wasn't a reflection of his lack of mastery of one position, it's more an indication of Souths's needs at the time and the fact that there was a log jam in front of him. Look at Darren Lockyer, started at fullback, where he was brilliant, and ended up being an elite five eighth. While I'm not saying Doueihi will become another Lockyer, I am saying that versatility needn't be a negative.

Now, the cash, 500k is being bandied about and, once again, many people are saying that it's too much, including Pascoe, allegedly. If we get him for 350-400, well and good, but do we spurn the opportunity because 500 is what's required? I'm not sure that's a good idea. Beggars can't be choosers. We have a million to spend, there are 3 spots are available, we sadly lack attacking flair and there aren't many options out there. Why wouldn't you chase him? I say go in hard and make it happen. It will be another missed opportunity that we'll live to regret if we don't.

Souffs have already paid him 25% of his 2020 salary as it is nearly the end of January. That cuts 125k off his price.

Why? wouldn't you grab him for 375k for 2020 .....BARGAIN!!!!!!

Where do people get this...no it doesn't....If Wests Tigers sign Doueihi what ever contract amount that is agreed to is how much he is paid....

Wait Geo, you're saying he hasn't been paid 125k by Souffs so far this year?

If he has and we pay 500k...i.e. he is getting 625k for 2020.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Question first - does anyone know if Wests Tigers are definitely in discussions with Doueihi and his management and/or Souths or is it all just conjecture?

If we are negotiating then we should definitely go in hard. I watched him in the semis last year and he was outstanding. It doesn't seem to be a flash in the pan because he did this in the pressure cooker of the playoffs. Therefore, he has talent and he copes with pressure. He is young, a Tigers junior who excelled at that level and he wants to play first grade in a position that we need bolstering. He ticks the boxes of a ball playing fullback and a possible replacement for Benji in 2021. To all those detractors who claim he's too much of a utility, this wasn't a reflection of his lack of mastery of one position, it's more an indication of Souths's needs at the time and the fact that there was a log jam in front of him. Look at Darren Lockyer, started at fullback, where he was brilliant, and ended up being an elite five eighth. While I'm not saying Doueihi will become another Lockyer, I am saying that versatility needn't be a negative.

Now, the cash, 500k is being bandied about and, once again, many people are saying that it's too much, including Pascoe, allegedly. If we get him for 350-400, well and good, but do we spurn the opportunity because 500 is what's required? I'm not sure that's a good idea. Beggars can't be choosers. We have a million to spend, there are 3 spots are available, we sadly lack attacking flair and there aren't many options out there. Why wouldn't you chase him? I say go in hard and make it happen. It will be another missed opportunity that we'll live to regret if we don't.

Souffs have already paid him 25% of his 2020 salary as it is nearly the end of January. That cuts 125k off his price.

Why? wouldn't you grab him for 375k for 2020 .....BARGAIN!!!!!!

Where do people get this...no it doesn't....If Wests Tigers sign Doueihi what ever contract amount that is agreed to is how much he is paid....

Wait Geo, you're saying he hasn't been paid 125k by Souffs so far this year?

If he has and we pay 500k...i.e. he is getting 625k for 2020.

So if we Signed him for $500k Souths would happily refund us the amount. LOL

 

[Russell]

Question first - does anyone know if Wests Tigers are definitely in discussions with Doueihi and his management and/or Souths or is it all just conjecture?

If we are negotiating then we should definitely go in hard. I watched him in the semis last year and he was outstanding. It doesn't seem to be a flash in the pan because he did this in the pressure cooker of the playoffs. Therefore, he has talent and he copes with pressure. He is young, a Tigers junior who excelled at that level and he wants to play first grade in a position that we need bolstering. He ticks the boxes of a ball playing fullback and a possible replacement for Benji in 2021. To all those detractors who claim he's too much of a utility, this wasn't a reflection of his lack of mastery of one position, it's more an indication of Souths's needs at the time and the fact that there was a log jam in front of him. Look at Darren Lockyer, started at fullback, where he was brilliant, and ended up being an elite five eighth. While I'm not saying Doueihi will become another Lockyer, I am saying that versatility needn't be a negative.

Now, the cash, 500k is being bandied about and, once again, many people are saying that it's too much, including Pascoe, allegedly. If we get him for 350-400, well and good, but do we spurn the opportunity because 500 is what's required? I'm not sure that's a good idea. Beggars can't be choosers. We have a million to spend, there are 3 spots are available, we sadly lack attacking flair and there aren't many options out there. Why wouldn't you chase him? I say go in hard and make it happen. It will be another missed opportunity that we'll live to regret if we don't.

Souffs have already paid him 25% of his 2020 salary as it is nearly the end of January. That cuts 125k off his price.

Why? wouldn't you grab him for 375k for 2020 .....BARGAIN!!!!!!

Where do people get this...no it doesn't....If Wests Tigers sign Doueihi what ever contract amount that is agreed to is how much he is paid....

Wait Geo, you're saying he hasn't been paid 125k by Souffs so far this year?

If he has and we pay 500k...i.e. he is getting 625k for 2020.

So if we Signed him for $500k Souths would happily refund us the amount. LOL

I Don't think so. What is the answer Geo?

 

[Geo]

Question first - does anyone know if Wests Tigers are definitely in discussions with Doueihi and his management and/or Souths or is it all just conjecture?

If we are negotiating then we should definitely go in hard. I watched him in the semis last year and he was outstanding. It doesn't seem to be a flash in the pan because he did this in the pressure cooker of the playoffs. Therefore, he has talent and he copes with pressure. He is young, a Tigers junior who excelled at that level and he wants to play first grade in a position that we need bolstering. He ticks the boxes of a ball playing fullback and a possible replacement for Benji in 2021. To all those detractors who claim he's too much of a utility, this wasn't a reflection of his lack of mastery of one position, it's more an indication of Souths's needs at the time and the fact that there was a log jam in front of him. Look at Darren Lockyer, started at fullback, where he was brilliant, and ended up being an elite five eighth. While I'm not saying Doueihi will become another Lockyer, I am saying that versatility needn't be a negative.

Now, the cash, 500k is being bandied about and, once again, many people are saying that it's too much, including Pascoe, allegedly. If we get him for 350-400, well and good, but do we spurn the opportunity because 500 is what's required? I'm not sure that's a good idea. Beggars can't be choosers. We have a million to spend, there are 3 spots are available, we sadly lack attacking flair and there aren't many options out there. Why wouldn't you chase him? I say go in hard and make it happen. It will be another missed opportunity that we'll live to regret if we don't.

Souffs have already paid him 25% of his 2020 salary as it is nearly the end of January. That cuts 125k off his price.

Why? wouldn't you grab him for 375k for 2020 .....BARGAIN!!!!!!

Where do people get this...no it doesn't....If Wests Tigers sign Doueihi what ever contract amount that is agreed to is how much he is paid....

Wait Geo, you're saying he hasn't been paid 125k by Souffs so far this year?

If he has and we pay 500k...i.e. he is getting 625k for 2020.

If we sign him for 500K we pay him 500K yes....if he agrees to come here for 375K this year we pay him 375K..

Players need to be released from their contract at the existing club..that is then finalised..they are paid what they are owed to that point by that Club..

It was the main reason we released Matterson prior to Nov 1..so we didn't pay him a cent of his 2020 contract...What ever the Eels signed him for is how much the Eels pay him..

 

[Russell]

Well then, I was correct.

He has been paid 125k to date.

All we have to do is get him to sign for 375k. and for Souffs to release him.

We get a bargain and he gets his 500k.

Everyone is happy.

 

[Geo]

Well then, I was correct.

He has been paid 125k to date.

All we have to do is get him to sign for 375k. and for Souffs to release him.

We get a bargain and he gets his 500k.

Everyone is happy.

Not if doesn't agree to come here for 375K you don't..